Fans constantly bringing up group works while a member is promoting solo stuff feels disrespectful (GOT7 Mark Tuan)

As someone who enjoys the comeback of Irene&Seulgi's 'Tilt', and someone who is abit more sensitive to the world, it is kind of disapointing how devisive it is. 'Tilt' is a proficient song objectively, SM just decided to try pushing the main chorus in the instrumentals instead of the fronting vocal harmonies as the song is going for an antichorus, so in my own personal feelings, I hate that the fandom have posts about how they find this comeback song bad or lazy. A good reference point to understanding what 'Tilt' is going for is 'heaven', on the album, 'heaven' due to the instrumentals is super musically complex in my opinion, which allows me to respect 'Tilt' more, SM purposely held back to make an easily rewatchable song, cause no lie, 'heaven', is a perfect song but I can only listen to it every half an hour, versus being able to enjoy what 'heaven' was going for in 'tilt', every second of the way. I just wish that we weren't put in this situation of a fandom where people like me who enjoy 'Tilt' didn't feel like they have to covet their enjoyment of the song while others feel disappointed as it didn't fill that Irene&Seulgi hole left by 'Monster' and 'Naughty'. Some hopeful thoughts after expressing my thoughts is, if Irene and Seulgi comeback again we are due for a brighter concept and high energy pop can be understood by everyone better. I hope we can all enjoy their comebacks in the future. submitted by /u/IllShock6655 [link] [comments]

I want to be able to discuss and debate more sensitive topics related to k-pop but every single sub is so heavily censored. Even if it is not a post actively spreading hate, just trying to provoke discussion or rant about something frustrating. Even r/kpop_uncensored is, ironically, so incredibly censored and I need to wait for mod approval before every post. Even this post, which isn't that sensitive, where I am expressing my frustration at being censored has ironically been removed from r/kpop and r/kpopthoughts. This kind of post isn't even offense and ironically is just proving my point?! submitted by /u/New-Main8194 [link] [comments]

i love tripleS so much, but i really wish their choreographer would take better advantage of having 24 members on stage. they usually just stand in a few lines and dance, and while they do rotate center time and let people go off to the side, it doesn’t feel like a fully formed group performance most of the time. i wish they did cooler formations or more dynamic staging instead of just standing in lines. it often ends up looking kind of messy or like individuals dancing next to each other instead of one big cohesive group. i know it’s probably hard with so many people, but that’s also what makes it exciting! there’s so much potential for really creative choreography that shows off how unique tripleS is. no hate at all, they’re my fav group in kpop right now!! i just think they could be doing so much more with the size of the group. i love them and want to see them shine even more. submitted by /u/rain-bow8 [link] [comments]

It’s honestly kinda annoying how when locals hear “K-pop,” their mind immediately goes to the most heavily promoted, overly poppy songs that sound like they were made for a kids’ cartoon. You know the type,bright colors, auto-tuned choruses, and dance routines that look like they belong at a school talent show. And yeah, those songs exist, but that’s just one tiny corner of K-pop. K-pop is a massive industry with so many layers. There are artists and groups doing R&B, hip-hop, rock, EDM, even experimental stuff that you’d probably never expect unless you dig a little deeper. But locals never get exposed to that side because the companies push the same three title tracks to international media usually the catchiest, safest, most “digestible” ones. It doesn’t help that most people’s first exposure to K-pop is through viral moments or TikTok challenges, which are usually tied to those cutesy or overproduced songs. So yeah, the stereotype sticks. But honestly, it sucks that a lot of genuinely talented idols and deep discographies get ignored just because the loudest K-pop exports are designed to be super commercial. Wish more people knew there’s a lot more to K-pop than just what ends up on a YouTube ad or Spotify front page. The B-sides, the indie idols, the smaller labels? That’s where the real gems are. submitted by /u/Starpeachhhh- [link] [comments]

I feel like this is something fans don’t want to admit, but it’s becoming super obvious most K-pop boy groups don’t really survive military service as a group. Sure, they might technically still be “active” or not disbanded, but once the enlistment period starts, things usually fall apart fast. It’s not even just the wait. It’s the vibe shift. The chemistry changes, priorities shift, and when they do come back, it’s awkward or inconsistent. Some members go full solo, others barely appear, and the group interactions that fans used to live for are just… gone. We’ve seen this happen over and over. What really bothers me is the certain fanbases out there that act like their group is above this. They’ll drag other groups for falling off after enlistment and act like theirs is different, even though their members don’t even interact much anymore. Like... how are you clowning other groups when your own faves are out here in separate countries working on solo stuff and only meeting on Zoom? Be serious. It’s fine to love a group and stay hopeful, but let’s stop pretending every group will reunite perfectly like nothing happened. The industry doesn’t make that easy. People grow, they move on, and group dynamics naturally shift. Instead of mocking groups that go through it, maybe we should just support our faves and be realistic. Not everything lasts forever, and that’s okay. submitted by /u/Starpeachhhh- [link] [comments]

I don’t know if it’s just me, but lately it feels like a lot of new gen K-pop stans are more focused on the status of being a “predebut stan” than actually liking the group or their music. Like as soon as a group gets announced even before any actual music drops people rush to stan them just so they can say “I’ve been here since day one.” It's giving ✨main character syndrome✨. We saw it with MEOVV, we saw it with NEXZ, even Kick Flip. These groups barely have a teaser out and suddenly there’s fan accounts, deep Twitter threads analyzing their personalities from a 15-second TikTok, and people defending them like they’ve been through 3 scandals and a world tour already. It’s wild. Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with being excited about new groups. But when your whole reason for stanning is just to have clout in a fanbase that doesn’t even exist yet, it kind of defeats the point. A lot of people drop these groups the second they don’t debut with a banger or don’t fit their initial expectations and that just ends up hurting rookie groups more than helping them. I miss when people stanned idols because they were drawn to their music or stage presence, not just because they were early enough to get bragging rights on stan Twitter. Being a predebut fan doesn’t make you special,it should just mean you’re genuinely interested in the group’s potential, not treating them like a social badge. Let them debut. Let them exist before we throw them on altars or cancel them off of one fancam. submitted by /u/Starpeachhhh- [link] [comments]

Ok so I’m guessing everyone knows the current situations going on. From Aespa to KOL situation. All that I’m getting from this is that idols are never gonna be truly held accountable. As a black woman what KOL did was very bad and two of them already promised they’d learn after saying the n word so it was like they didn’t really learn at all. And apparently after a couple half apologies from their company we’re supposed to get over it? Then you have Baekhyun doing a challenge with them like bro read the room😂. Then with Aespa, people are calling the Koreans “sick and nasty” cause they feel a certain way with the situation. And most of those people aren’t even Koreans themselves. Idk I know I can just stop tuning in but it really saddens me the lack of social awareness kpop fans have sometimes. They will defend their favs to the grave even if they are wrong. Idk am I overreacting??? submitted by /u/Svt_bby_girl [link] [comments]

I’ve been into K-pop for a while, and one thing I’ve noticed is how rare it is to find idols who feel genuinely honest or real. A lot of them seem either super filtered because of company pressure, or they go the opposite way and develop this weird ego after a bit of success. And when fans do notice this behavior, they either ignore it or twist it into some "misunderstood genius" storyline. What bugs me most is when people say stuff like, “You’d understand if you stanned them” or “Watch their YouTube vlogs, you’ll see the real them.” Like…no? Watching highly edited content where they’re 100% aware a camera is filming them doesn’t tell me anything about their actual personality. Especially when they’re being extra soft or funny for the fans, and they’re surrounded by their members who they’ve trained and lived with for years. Of course they’ll seem close and warm in that setting. That’s not the same as being a down-to-earth or genuinely kind person. Also, can we talk about how fake a lot of variety show appearances feel now? It’s all scripted banter, “chaotic energy,” and the same fake laugh they’ve rehearsed a hundred times. It’s not to say idols have to be super open or vulnerable,we all have our boundaries but let’s stop pretending that being charming on camera equals being a good person. There are definitely some idols who come across as more real and honest, and you can just feel it in how they speak, how they handle uncomfortable situations, or how they talk about the industry without sounding like a PR machine. But those types are rare. It’s totally fine to like idols for the entertainment they provide but fans acting like they personally know these people and defending every red flag is just weird. It’s okay to admit that we don’t really know most of these idols, and that not every one of them is a humble, kind-hearted angel behind the scenes. submitted by /u/Starpeachhhh- [link] [comments]

I used to extensively collect pcs and merch, and my main goal when collecting pcs would be to always collect everything in the template, but it has gotten exhausting and tiring. I'm not sure if this is the same for other groups, but Ateez has too many pcs per comeback. It's never-ending. From POBs to albums pcs and to endless fansign and fancall pcs. Why are they still doing fancalls 3-4 months after the release of their albums? Why is there a Soundwave fancall event ROUND 7? Are they not tired? Cause I am from collecting all these pcs. And it's starting to annoy me a little because a lot of the pcs have similar poses, just that they're in different clothes. It's extremely repetitive. And some of their fancalls were done while they were touring... It's absolutely insane knowing how extensive and long their tour is. And why do things like Season Greetings, concert DVDs and photobooks for example, need 3-7 different POBS from 3-7 different sites?! You're telling me I now need to have multiple Season Greeting's just to get that POB? Otherwise, I will just have to buy it off others for double or triple the price? Insane. And the merch? Diabolical pricings. I missed the dateline to order San's 2023 birthday merch, and now it's reselling for over $100... For a 10cm doll... It pisses me off because I want the doll so badly but I am not gonna be throwing $100 just for a doll 🥲 Not to mention how different merch comes with different pcs so if I want that pc then I would have to buy MORE merch. They just KNOW how to suck us financially dry 😭 I've now decided to just collect the pcs that are really cute, in my opinion, or those with really cute props and outfits for the sake of my wallet. But unfortunately, I'm a sucker for merch, especially keyring dolls, so.. Sigh.. Take my money.. submitted by /u/Alone_Collection1507 [link] [comments]

So I just watched the "next monster" debut clip and it brought out a huge rant for me about how YG is already failing this group. I'm so disappointed in YG right now on multiple levels. Obligatory disclosure: I've been a fan of all YGGGs since 2NE1. I love BLACKPINK and BABYMONSTER. This is a critique of any of them, or of any members of the YGNGG. This is solely about YG's failings as a CEO and as a company. Despite what others may think, when BABYMONSTER's rollout was happening, it felt very fresh to me. The cover videos with minimal staging, lighting, and outfits helped to spotlight the members' raw talents without them having any specific concept or image yet, especially with how the cover genres being all over the place (R&B, pop, rap, a country song). Then came the intro videos with each of the members' personal stories, most of which were quite vulnerable. In comparison to BP's untouchable it girls, high-production, swagger image, it felt strikingly different in a good way. It got me really excited for BABYMONSTER to have a different style and concept from their seniors. The other thing is, they changed up each cover to make it uniquely their own. The slowed-down tempo of Rami's Let Me Love You, the acoustic instrumentation for Traitor, Asa applying her range to Me Myself and I, etc. all helped those covers to shine. There was work put into those covers to make them high-quality, which helped draw attention to this new group. I still go back and listen to those covers today, I prefer some of them to the original versions because of what they brought to that song. Now that BABYMONSTER has been around for a while, we can clearly see the similarities and differences between them and their senior groups, 2NE1, BLACKPINK, BIGBANG, TREASURE, etc. I personally see them as having a brighter, more upbeat sound and vibe to YG's other two GGs, and feel that they've successfully differentiated themselves. I think their unique rollout and the focus on raw vocal talent was a big part of that. We know BABYMONSTER's debut was in the works for years. YG copyrighted BABYMONSTER and BAEMON back in like 2018 IIRC, and there were trainee rumors floating around for 3-4 years before they finally debuted. Now, less than two years in, we get this - a stale repeat of the BABYMONSTER model, even up to the point of re-using the word monster. It's so incredibly lazy and does nothing to differentiate this new group, or reinforce the uniqueness of BABYMONSTER. It's the exact same style of video. I also don't feel like this is a good showcase of this girls' talent. She's not making this cover uniquely hers, it's like karaoke. Her rap flow and English pronounciation isn't good, despite the video mentioning she's Australian. it hurts to watch this because I have no doubt she's talented and has better performances under her belt to showcase that. What an awful first impression to give an audience, both of this girl and of the whole group. It feels like what happened is the board of investors told YG "all of your competitors have 3-4 active GGs at this point, what are you doing? get a new GG out ASAP" and YG snapped to attention and rushed a thoughtless rollout, assuming their brand would automatically make it a success. The girls of this new YG girl group, who I'm sure have given up so much, worked so hard, and put up with so much harshness to pursue this, deserve so, so much better. If YG is going to spend time and $$ investing in them, they need to set them up to success by differentiating them from their seniors and all the competition. Not do... whatever messiness this is. EDIT: I'm not responding to comments that clearly didn't read my post and are inserting assumptions on what they think it's about. If you didn't want to read, don't comment. submitted by /u/freakyfishiesunite [link] [comments]

I’ve seen some people explain why they hate kpop so much and it’s always the same crap “i cant understand the lyrics” Like, ofc you cant! ITS IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE “they all look like girls/ they all look the same” NO THEY FRICKING DONT. if you actaully cared to look at their faces and see the differences, you wouldn’t think that. Stop being racist. Also, there are idols that aren’t asian, so you’re just being rude to them “the music sucks!” Okay, and? It just doesn’t suit your taste, saying it sucks is exaggerating “the guys wear make up, it looks gay/ they act gay”. Do i even need to explain this? EVERY CELEBRITY WEARS MAKE UP. And also, they do not “act gay”, they are just showing their affection toward each other, and stop being homophobic “they have no talent” THEY DO. why do you think kpop got so popular? They can rap, sing, and dance perfectly fine. In fact, they are amazing at it. They can dance perfectly synchronized too “the fans are unhinged” not all of them are tho? Stop judging the entirety of the fanbase based on a small part of the fandom. Everyone is different. People should rly stop hating on kpop for no apparent reason submitted by /u/Beautiful-Vast7545 [link] [comments]

Hello everyone! We are excited to take a trip back in time to revisit some K-Pop classics once again, continuing with this rate, the "Early Gen 3" Girl Groups Rate! (If you haven't already, make sure to join r/kpoprates to ensure that you stay updated on future rate-related posts!) Quick Links: Ballot submission: Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot // Ballot template (Google Docs ver.) // Ballot template (Pastebin) Playlists: Spotify // Youtube (Audio ver.) // Youtube (Lyrics ver.) // Youtube (MV ver.) Deadline: July 7th (Monday), 11:59 Pacific (Link to a timezone converter) How the songs were selected: We used the /r/kpop Top Ten Tuesdays results to grab the most adored songs from each of the artists on Reddit, and we also had a songlist feedback survey on /r/kpoprates to help decide the songlist! Now, without further ado, let's introduce the 55 songs (& 7 bonus songs) that were selected for this rate, ordered chronologically for each artist (artists were also ordered by debut date): . Spica: Russian Roulette You Don’t Love Me EXID: Every Night Up & Down Ah Yeah Hot Pink Night Rather Than Day DDD I Love You HelloVenus: Wiggle Wiggle I’m ill Mysterious Crayon Pop: Bar Bar Bar AOA: Miniskirt Short Hair Like a Cat Heart Attack Good Luck 10 Seconds Excuse Me FIESTAR: One More You’re Pitiful Ladies’ Code: Pretty Pretty Galaxy The Rain BESTie: Love Options Excuse me Mamamoo: Piano Man You’re the Best Décalcomanie Starry Night Egotistic Wind Flower Gogobebe HIP Laboum: Journey to Atlantis Hwi Hwi Lovelyz: Ah-Choo Destiny WoW! Now, We That Day Sonamoo: Friday Night GFriend: Me Gustas Tu Rough Navillera Fingertip Time For The Moon Night Apple Mago Brave Girls: Deepened Rollin’ We Ride Chi Mat Ba Ram After We Ride . Bonus Rate: The bonus rate is basically an extension of the main rate! There were several songs that received high praise during the songlist feedback survey that still were barely not able to make the main rate, so we have put them into the bonus rate here to give them a chance to be rated. . EXID - Lady HelloVenus - Venus Crayon Pop - FM Fiestar - Mirror Ladies’ Code - Bad Girl Laboum - Between Us GFriend - Labyrinth . The Bonus Rate is optional and you do not have to submit a score for every song in the bonus list if you do it: you can score none of them, all of them, or any number in between. You cannot give a 0 or 11 to any song in the bonus, as they are not part of the main rate. While it is optional, we hope you consider participating. Spotify playlist YouTube playlist (MV version) YouTube playlist (Audio version) YouTube playlist (Lyrics version) Rules: You must listen to and assign a score to EVERY song listed. If your ballot is missing any scores it will not be eligible and you'll be sent a message asking you to fill in the missing scores. Each song should be assigned a score between 1 to 10. Decimals up to one point are allowed but any further is a no-no – 6.9 is fine, but 6.99 is not. You can use ONE 0 and ONE 11 for the entirety of the rate, for your least favorite and most favorite song respectively - they are optional but HIGHLY encouraged if you feel some type of way about any given song! Comments are also encouraged but not required for such scores (except if you give a song a 0). Comments are encouraged and much appreciated (but not required, except for if you give a 0) and can be added to any song by simply typing after the numerical score, like so: Hip: 2.4 Ofc the title track that utilizes Mamamoo's vocal power the least ends up becoming the most popular (yells angrily at cloud) This is the ONLY correct way to format a comment. Please do not include colons (ex. 9: I stan!), dashes (ex. 3.3 - This song sucks), or any other symbol after your score/before your comment as it breaks the program. You can also give comments for individual artists! Just write your comment after the :, such as the following: EXID: Are they pronounced like "exit" or are you supposed to say every letter separately? I'll never know For this rate and most future rates, we have a ballot average minimum of 4.00. In addition, if your ballot average is between 4.00-5.50, you must leave comments on your lower scores (which we define as any score that's a 3 or lower). {Do not worry about having to calculate your ballot average, once you submit your ballot, we will tell you if you need to make changes to your ballot for it to be accepted.} SUBMITTING A BALLOT: * Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot As Reddit is (unfortunately) moving away from the private messaging system in favor of utilizing the Reddit chat system, we are forced to also adopt the Reddit chat system for messaging. You can make a copy of either the Google Docs or Pastebin ballot templates below, add your scores on your local copy/file, and send the link to your local copy/file in your Reddit Chat message to u/KpopRates_Ghost. * Google Docs ballot template * Pastebin ballot template Google spreadsheet template that you can use to calculate averages, record scores, and make predictions Alternatively, if you have Discord, you can message the link to your ballot to both the rate hosts, @Zypker124 and @aidshha. You can also submit the top/bottom 5 prediction form at any time. DUE DATE: Monday, July 7th, by 11:59 PM Pacific - This will be the FINAL deadline, no extensions will be given this time! (Here is a link to a time zone converter for the deadline.) REVEAL DATES (Reveals will take place on /r/kpoprates as well as the KpopRates Discord: https://discord.gg/4YY2ksBbT6) Day 1 - July 12th (Saturday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) Day 2 - July 13th (Sunday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) submitted by /u/kpoprates_ghost [link] [comments]

Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

I'm trying to explain to my friend that all the stray kids members are genuinely good people but they don't believe!! So I need receipts!!! I'm looking for quotes and positive clips of stray kids!!!! submitted by /u/Pink4everUwU [link] [comments]

Billlie and weki meki songs do dominate the playlist Link to playlist of anybody wants: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5PzWuTM8unscpCRmkaDpO1?si=DTqzaTEwRQyxq_97duF3Kg&pi=2tRnMjOeSKmhc submitted by /u/lombardiprincess [link] [comments]

Hey everyone! So, besides queencard I’ve never heard anything else from I-dle and well, I liked queencard. However this new concept was such a game changer, “We Are” really got me into actually looking up their names and listening to the whole album. It’s so sad to see immature people can’t give their opinions on the album without attack the members tho. I give it a 9/10 Favorite song: good thing •turned out to be one of my favorite kpop albums submitted by /u/lleroisoleil [link] [comments]

Mine was yedam from treasure, like I cried the whole morning when I found out. Same with soojin though the wasn’t my bias. What about y’all? submitted by /u/Logical_Sweet_6624 [link] [comments]

If you don’t have a bias in that group, just say the member that catches you’re eye the most submitted by /u/Logical_Sweet_6624 [link] [comments]