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Bad faith criticism becomes obvious after a group improves

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There are many examples in kpop of this, in sure everyone can think of times when their own group was treated this way, but I'll be fully transparent and say yes, this post was sparked by Aespa's recent performance on The Jennifer Hudson show, so that's what I'll talk about, and the response to it. Aespa sang live and the crowd was ecstatic the whole time. They also had back up dancers present, which really improved the vibes of the performance since the choreo really doesn't work well without them. J Hud is also a great host with high energy. I watch her show on the afternoons I have off from work, so I knew she'd be great too. Basically, it was a complete 180 from the GMA show. Considering the main criticism for Aespa is that they lip sync, I'm happy for them that they sang live. It would be pretty messed up to go on The Jennifer Hudson Show of all talk shows and not sing live, so I'm glad they didn't do that. The performance is already showing the clear distinction between those who gave legitimate criticism and those who were just hating. Those who were criticizing just for the opportunity to bash them are already moving the goalposts. "Umm singing live is the bare minimum, are we really going to praise them?" Yes, because the whole point is that the change in direction is exactly what we were asking of Aespa, and we were listened to. Vocal support is how you show something is moving in the right direction and you'd like to see more of it. What's the point of criticizing someone if, when they do actually make changes according to the criticism, you just shade them more? Why criticize if you don't care if they change anyway? What's the point, other than just to jump on a trend of bashing someone? We'll see if Aespa starts to sing live more going forward. I certainly hope so because there is a certain flair live performances have to offer that pre-recorded vocals can't measure up to. submitted by /u/SageSageofSages [link] [comments]

13.885. Trump supporters and their fellow racists will be immediately banned.

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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

13.886. New Post Flairs: 'Connect' and 'Research' are now available!

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Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

1. ALTER EGO - A Misunderstood Album, months later

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Yes, it’s been months and we’ve all pretty much moved on from this album, but this is something i’ve been wanting to discuss for a minute now and decided why not lol. As an album, Alter Ego was met with mixed reviews. Some people love it, some hate it, some don’t care for it. I wanna talk more about misconceptions and expectations that many critics had. Specifically its authenticity and how it shows who Lisa is both as an artist and a performer. The concept is pretty straightforward. Five characters (or Alter Egos) all who represent facets of Lisa both the person and the artist. Each Alter Ego has her own style, story, theme, and set of songs on the album. This concept garnered criticism. Biographies aside, many saw this concept as childish, not authentic, and others viewed it as creative and fun. I personally thought it was a fun concept for her. While I do agree five characters may have been too much, I don’t actually mind it. This goes into another one of the album’s criticisms. The lack of cohesion. On the surface, yes, the album itself isn’t the most cohesive unless you understand the concept she’s using. This also ties into the lack of “authenticity”. Here’s where I wanna say one thing, Lisa herself NEVER stated Alter Ego would be an introspective look into her neither would it be an album where she’d be spilling personal stories. If you actually watch her interviews and read the magazines she’s done, the story behind the album is pretty simple. As she was just recording songs, Lisa found herself having so much fun that she and her team decided to build an album using various genres, sounds, and themes and built the Alter Ego concept around it. This album wasn’t for Lisa to tell personal stories. It was meant as a way to show the world what she could do. The way she could switch genres and sound good doing all of them. Her solo era was never to tell personal stories. It was to experiment. This also had its own criticisms. Prior to the announcement of the album, many claimed she didn’t have a signature sound or image. That’s the entire point. From Rockstar all the way to Alter Ego, Lisa’s been experimenting sounds, styles, genres, looks, etc. Personally, I feel like when the album released, many were simply looking for something that was never gonna be there. Alter Ego isn’t an introspective look into who Lalisa is. It’s an album where Lisa shows the world that she can easily switch between pop to hip hop to ballads, etc. Whether her next album continues this theme or she tries something else is up to her. Lisa has always been a performer first. It’s what she does. She shines on the stage. And what better way to emphasize that than by trying out new and different things. Getting out of her comfort zone. While she’s been in the industry for essentially a decade now, her solo career is till rather young. It’s all about trial and error. Now that’s not to say i don’t acknowledge criticisms. Her rollout could’ve been so much better and I will even admit as a massive fan, the album is carried by the concept and production. The lyricism isn’t the albums strongest area but that’s not the worst thing in the world. This is the first time we see Lisa as songwriter on a lot of the tracks and whether it’s one her or the teams she wrote with, it’s all about growth. Learning. Not everyone’s gonna be Taylor Swift at the first swing. To end it all, Lisa’s Alter Ego, at least from my eyes months later, isn’t a “bad” or “boring” album. It’s a misunderstood album where she tried something new and some loved it, some didn’t, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. There will never be a song or an album in the world that everyone loves. (anyways i’d love to hear other’s thoughts and opinions on all of this) submitted by /u/Outrageous-Ad7806 [link] [comments]

2. PENTAGON Yanan has won 'Recommended Singer of the Year Award' at the 2025 Weibo Music Awards

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3. Comment a kpop song and ill rate it out of 10?

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4. Male idols' voice distinguishing in BGs

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(DISCLAIMER: This is no way meant to mock or shame any idol's tone.) This might just be me but I personally find it relatively hard to figure out who is singing in a bg song that I try to become a new fan of than any ggs that I've tried. Like even in case of girl groups like twice or momoland with kinda more number of members, when I started to listen to their songs, i KNEW who was singing just didn't know the name. But in case of bg's, (enhypen and NCT 127 recently) I don't know why but I simply can't figure it out. For example, in case of enhypen, in 'Brought the heat back', Heeseung's and Jungwon's chorus sounded SO similar to me in first atleast 15 plays of the song. Also in 'Sweet venom', the second part of the chorus, i CAN'T figure out who is singing other than Sunoo. This is mostly the case in higher parts of songs in enhypen for me. Now in NCT 127, i discovered them from 2 Baddies on Spotify so i didn't watch the mv first handedly. So in the first and second verse I thought there was one guy with like really deep voice who was rapping along with Mark but on watching the mv, turns out there were two??? I didn't notice the switch AT ALL and mind you i had the song on repeat for a whole week before i decided to watch the mv today. Also in some TXT songs like Tinnitus, i couldn't figure out if it was Soobin or Beomgyu singing. Please don't jump me, I love all of these groups. I'm just sharing an experience. 😭 submitted by /u/Commercial-Many-1407 [link] [comments]

5. Rap parts in songs where it's not necessary can really throw me out of the whole song

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I think there's countless of examples for this, but I'm writing this after listening to 'Pretty please' from Hearts2hearts. I don't know much about them as a group (other than that they're from SM), but I got the mv in my recommended and decided to check it out. I LOVE the vibe of the song, it's very 1st-2nd gen remeniscent and the chorus is just lovely, but the rap part they have after the second chorus just completely threw me off. It just... doesn't fit the vibe of the song. I think this is a very common theme with SM songs, and just Kpop songs in general. We get it, Kpop idols get assigned positions, and giving the rappers in the group no time to show off their skills wouldn't be the right way to go about it, but some songs really just don't need it. I know this is a personal opinion and I'm sure countless of other fans weren't bothered by it, but personally it just kind of puts a stain on an otherwise flawless comeback imo. Then again, you can never please all fans and I get that. Just to preface if it wasn't made clear by my post already, but this is not at all intended to be a hate post, just a discussion about a recent comeback and my personal opinion submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

6. Former TO1 Jayn Lee's exclusive contract with HYPEER has come to an end

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7. Question for veteran K-pop stans (2015 ones or earlier)

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Was anyone here when the mainstream 3rd gen groups debuted? My K-Pop era started in 2016, pretty late i assume. This October, TWICE is turning 10. If you were there for their debut, how do you feel now? Given their rise to fame and how many records they have beaten as a 9-membered girl group surviving for a decade. Would really love to hear some kind words for the girls. submitted by /u/SeparateClassroom117 [link] [comments]

8. Bad faith criticism becomes obvious after a group improves

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There are many examples in kpop of this, in sure everyone can think of times when their own group was treated this way, but I'll be fully transparent and say yes, this post was sparked by Aespa's recent performance on The Jennifer Hudson show, so that's what I'll talk about, and the response to it. Aespa sang live and the crowd was ecstatic the whole time. They also had back up dancers present, which really improved the vibes of the performance since the choreo really doesn't work well without them. J Hud is also a great host with high energy. I watch her show on the afternoons I have off from work, so I knew she'd be great too. Basically, it was a complete 180 from the GMA show. Considering the main criticism for Aespa is that they lip sync, I'm happy for them that they sang live. It would be pretty messed up to go on The Jennifer Hudson Show of all talk shows and not sing live, so I'm glad they didn't do that. The performance is already showing the clear distinction between those who gave legitimate criticism and those who were just hating. Those who were criticizing just for the opportunity to bash them are already moving the goalposts. "Umm singing live is the bare minimum, are we really going to praise them?" Yes, because the whole point is that the change in direction is exactly what we were asking of Aespa, and we were listened to. Vocal support is how you show something is moving in the right direction and you'd like to see more of it. What's the point of criticizing someone if, when they do actually make changes according to the criticism, you just shade them more? Why criticize if you don't care if they change anyway? What's the point, other than just to jump on a trend of bashing someone? We'll see if Aespa starts to sing live more going forward. I certainly hope so because there is a certain flair live performances have to offer that pre-recorded vocals can't measure up to. submitted by /u/SageSageofSages [link] [comments]

9. a bit random, but does everybody believe that BTS kidnapping prank in American Hustle Life was real?

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i know this was eons ago but i remember about it every once in a while and it seems way too fucked up to be real, i mean, are they just really good actors? submitted by /u/Powerful_Ad8668 [link] [comments]

10. Yuto Adachi (PENTAGON) (with TWICE Momo, Sana & Mina) - DIVE IN (Dance Challenge) (250924)

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11. As someone who Got into KPOP around 2008 debut can anyone tell me why it took me 14 years to discover B1A4?

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I was doing some work today when I came across a playlist video on youtube and suddenly What's happening starts to play I've never heard the song before and I liked it so much That I paused the video and looked who was the group, and suddenly I fell into the B1A4 rabbit hole and all their discography is so much to my taste I'm so flabbergasted as to why I never really heard much of them not even back in the day when I watched the music shows weekly religiously or was in the look for any new group to add to my playlist, didn't their management promote them much or what? I feel so betrayed, nonetheless I just added a lot of new bops to my playlists. submitted by /u/Ryocchi [link] [comments]

12. What do you say about my most favourite KPop idol of all time?

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Park Junhee, leader of group A.C.E submitted by /u/Beautiful_Yellow_682 [link] [comments]

13. Aespa's Jennifer Hudson performance is a masterclass in taking criticism well

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After their disastrous GMA performance, Aespa seems to have heard all the criticism and improved drastically. Firstly, they sang LIVE. And they sounded excellent. Then they greatly improved on their stage presence, which showed in the energy from the crowd. Also they brought the backup dancers back, allowing the choreography to shine and covering up their own flaws in dancing. Honestly, they danced better here than I've seen in any Rich Man performance (but I could be wrong). The outfits were beautiful, and there's nothing to really improve in the visuals department. Although I will say I miss pink hair Giselle. Overall, it's nice to see groups respond positively to feedback and do better instead of living in an echo chamber of fans. What do you guys think of their improvement? submitted by /u/CrazyGailz [link] [comments]

14. (TW for Oli London) Make the most cursed line up of all time, day 7

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Rules: - keep it lighthearted please - no serious submissions! Ex: Kim Seungmin for Main Vocalist - you may submit multiple people but make multiple comments for them - disbanded idols and survival show contestants count - all generations and all genders - ai/digital idols count - people who have collabed with Kpop groups can be submitted (ex: Terry Crews because he did a collab with le sserafim once) - an idol can win multiple spots, there’ll just be a clone of them - most upvotes comment wins - roughly every 24 hours there will be a new vote - if there are multiple comments for one idol, the highest will be counted Winners of day 6: Oli London Peter the cockroach Gwima the Great Now let the chaos continue, who’s the person who gets shipped all the time? submitted by /u/DaGayEnby [link] [comments]

15. Why off the record didn't take fromis_9 with them to wakeone?

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Off the record was founded by cjenm in September 2018 to manage the groups fromis_9 and IZ*ONE, after izone disbanded in 2021 not long after that cjenm announced the launch of their new integrated label called WAKEONE with Stone Music Entertainment, ONEFECT Entertainment, Studio Blu, and Off The Record Entertainment to be integrated as one into WAKEONE. So all the artists under those labels like duo davichi, soloist Roy Kim and boygroup T01 are moved to wakeone Except fromis_9 who was moved to Pledis. So Why off the record didn't take fromis with them when they intregated into wakeone? Yk since flovers always complained about how Pledis mistreated them maybe wakeone would treat them better if they were under them instead of pledis. submitted by /u/Chemical_Mobile_6613 [link] [comments]

16. Need help remembering a competition name please!!

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Hey!! This is about to be really vague but I’ve been trying to remember a competition or game show kind of thing where there were a lot of 3rd generation kpop idols performing covers of songs. Twice was there and one they were wearing funny glasses and head pieces. Gfriend also did a cover (yuju had a high note I think). BTS was there and laughing at some performances (suga laughed a lot at one). I’m sorry it’s really vague, but I also know it was also at least 4 years ago. submitted by /u/DistributionSouth284 [link] [comments]

17. What are some K-Pop Idols that would not survive a horror movie??

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Honestly I think LE SSERAFIM wouldn't survive but it's up to you guys!! submitted by /u/Crazy_Manager3384 [link] [comments]

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