Fans should stop complaining about a group’s artistic direction without understanding it (example: TXT and Stray Kids)
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liz has the best yellow hair!👑 2nd place: somi 3rd place: rosé • post your submission with a link to a picture of the idol! • split dyed hair and a few colored strands also count! • Gen 3, Gen 4, Gen 5 • female idols only • to make it more fun for everyone: 3 members max from the same group • time to comment/vote: 24 hours submitted by /u/hyun_chuu [link] [comments]
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For an example, when you give me a group, i'll first name the main vocalist/dancer/rapper, then the vocalist/dancer/rapper that is my favorite, then the one that i think is the best vocalist/dancer/rapper Others can join too submitted by /u/Artistic-Network-247 [link] [comments]
These groups and soloists are not from the big 4 and are not very popular. They don't have a first win yet. It can be a girl group, a boy group, a female soloist, or a male soloist. My favorite lesser known 5th gen groups are Rescene, ifeye, and HITGS. I don't know if she’s considered lesser known, but my favorite 5th gen soloist is Gyubin. My favorite songs from Rescene: - YoYo - Lucky You - Love Attack - Crash - Glow Up - Going On - Mood My favorite songs from ifeye: - IRL - Bubble Up - Friend Like Me - Round And Round - Echo - r u ok? I love all HITGS songs but my favorite songs from them are: - Sourpatch - Charizzma My favorite songs from Gyubin: - Satellite - Like U 100 - Evergreen - So Yeah, LOVE! - Born To Love You submitted by /u/CrimsonThicket [link] [comments]
I’ve always hated how kpop stans (not only them, I know and I am aware☝️) seem absolutely obsessed with the idea of girls hating each other for some reason. I’ve always thought that mindset is misogynistic, because for years people have had this idea that women can’t do anything together without fighting. It really bothers me, especially because all of this comes from the fact that society has always tried to put women against each other. It’s not a biological thing like some people say, it’s literally systemic. Now, I’m aware that there are girl groups where some members don’t get along, but I already explained the reason, why it’s not a biological thing before. But now people apply this mentality to literally every single girl group, especially those with many members like tripleS. I’m genuinely so sick and tired of people being obsessed with their dynamics, saying things like “I bet they hate each other” or “there’s no way they’re all friends.” I’m not here to say friends don’t fight or that tripleS are all close besties because of course I don’t know them personally. The problem, like I said, is the unnecessary obsession. Sure, this mentality can apply to boy groups too, but it’s objectively not as strong as with girl groups. It’s really sad that because of this mindset, I’ve often seen people unable to praise female idols without putting them against each other, even if they’re in the same group. For me, it’s even more sad that a good portion of the people who say stuff like that are women. The self hate is so deeply rooted unfortunately. submitted by /u/ForceApprehensive597 [link] [comments]
People really don’t get how bad Japanese idols have it in kpop. Like not just “oh they’re treated a lil different” no bro they get dehumanized. It’s been a pattern for YEARS(this goes for like every foreign idol) but You can be talented as hell trained for years fluent in Korean and they’ll still treat you like you’re just “there to decorate.” Giselle awspa Fluent in 3 languages, trained fast, has a solid voice STILL: • Gets barley any lines and disappears in songs • Constantly cut out of choreography like she’s not even in the group • SM literally deleted her from group intros on social media • They posted teaser pics for aespa and just skipped her like she didn’t exist and gets discriminated in company ads Theres alot of ads where she isnt even in them and sm skips her even in the japanese ones • No protection from online hate AT ALL • skipped her on the big screen in JAPAN HER HOME COUNTRY • Meanwhile Karina and Winter get babied by the company every time And even tho she’s half Korean, it doesn’t even matter. Koreans hate her guts like she personally did something to them. They never gave her a chance, from debut till now. Hitomi iz*one Won Produce 48 fair and square STILL: • Treated like a background prop • Rarely ever center despite being top 9 • Got almost zero lines in multiple songs • In variety shows? She’s just… there. Barely spoken to. • Korean staff would literally ignore her in videos like she was invisible Yuta (NCT / SM Ent.) – Debuted in 2016, trained hard, loyal to the group STILL: • No solo teaser when NCT 127 launched, like he wasn’t a real member • Got the least lines, even less than newer members who just joined • Everyone else got birthday merch not him • Did actual dangerous stunts on camera with no safety precautions (climbing walls, sharp objects, etc.) • In their own documentary, he said: “I wondered why I was even there.” • Got surgery to look “more Korean” just to try and be accepted :( he was so beautiful before Sana twice – Said one thing on Instagram: “Goodbye Heisei” (referring to the Japanese emperor stepping down) The way Korean netizens LOST it was wild. They blew it up like she committed war crimes. She got flooded with comments calling her disgusting, traitor, everything under the sun i literally witnessed it and i swear some of those insults made European racists look like angels. It wasn’t just a few trolls either. The hate got so big it made headlines in Korea. There was many articles calling her pigs and shit in korean just because of that And she had to apologize for… what exactly? Being Japanese and acknowledging her country’s history? And misamo went through alot with xenophobia in korea Like it’s so obvious. These idols are treated like they don’t belong no matter how hard they work. They never get defended. Companies just stay silent. Meanwhile, their Korean groupmates are protected 24/7, even when they’re in scandals or messing up on stage. And all of this ties back to deeper issues. It’s not just company favoritism. It’s cultural resentment, and it’s been passed down for generations. Yes, there’s history between Korea and Japan and yes Japan absolutely did horrible things. But why are modern day idols who were BORN after all of that still being punished for it? They’re just trying to perform and make a career, and people are out here treating them like their existence is political. submitted by /u/welpnko [link] [comments]
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Hi everyone! This post is a weekly thread for any thoughts you might have that feel don't need a post of its own but still would like to air to the world. All rules apply, but you can discuss anything you want related to Kpop. Please be respectful and have fun! submitted by /u/KpopThoughtsmodteam [link] [comments]
I’ve been seeing a lot of posts saying TWICE has lost their sound because they’re becoming more westernized. I respectfully disagree, TWICE still sounds like TWICE, just grown up TWICE. They’re not kids anymore so they won’t make songs like Likey, TT or Cheer up. Their most recent album, This is for, is soooo TWICE-coded, I’m surprised people say it doesn’t sound like them. Even songs that are not as “kpop” like “Right hand girl”, makes so much sense to me for TWICE or even “Let love go” or “Mars”. So that’s why I think people that think TWICE have lost their sound either aren’t accounting for their increase in age or do not listen to their B-sides. So I’m curious, if you think TWICE has lost their sound, did you listen to the album or just the title song? Have you ever been a Stan or only a casual listener? submitted by /u/AquaAriesSag [link] [comments]
I don't know much about other groups, but I've been a MOA for quite a long time, and I always see people complaining about TXT's artistic direction. The most common thing I see is people saying TXT should go back to X era, or that they shouldn't have done this, or even saying that TXT doesn't have an established concept. But what they don't understand is that TXT's concept is growing up. While I don’t have in-depth knowledge about their lore, I understand the broad outlines. One of the most common things that happen as you grow up is change, so of course their concept and sound will evolve over time. For example, asking TXT to return to the temptation era is totally ridiculous to me. That era was about TXT exploring what it's like to want to run away from problems and stay in a dream, while knowing deep down that you have to face reality sooner or later. So the concept was kind of seductive (= temptation) and fairytale-like (= dream and escape from reality). It fit perfectly, but you can’t reuse the same concept for other themes in their lore. The thing is, if TXT had stuck to a particular concept or sound, I’m sure they would’ve been criticized for not changing and not being diverse enough. This reminds me of Stray Kids. I’m not a Stay, but I enjoy some of their songs, and I’ve also seen people saying they should go back to their old sound, or that all their songs sound the same and lack diversity. It’s quite ironic that these two groups are criticized for completely opposite reasons. I’d say Stray Kids has their own sound and concept. Although their music doesn’t suit everyone, they’ve managed to find an audience that enjoys it, and they’re gaining popularity thanks to what people call "noise music." Fortunately, agencies and groups don’t base their artistic direction on fans complaints, because let’s be honest fans themselves often don’t know what they want. Note: I’m not saying we should stop giving our opinions (positive or negative) about TXT’s concepts or music. I actually enjoy seeing people, even outside the fandom, discussing it. What bothers me is when people don’t even try to understand the group’s concept at all, and just start complaining about the change in a shallow way. If that makes sense. submitted by /u/Technical_Walrus9158 [link] [comments]
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No judgement here as long as you don't make those cringey ship videos and shove the ship narrative at them. Personally I really like wooseo, woochan and youngseo from allday project, their honestly so cute, the visuals match so well and they are honestly so cute together I can't get enough, I wouldn't mind if they came out that they were dating .. submitted by /u/hearts4him_ [link] [comments]
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I used to love TWICE’s discography — they had a clear sound, catchy hooks, and a fun image that felt unique. But lately, their music feels like it’s chasing trends instead of setting them. They’ve done retro, western-pop sounding tracks... but none of it really sticks. It’s like they’re trying to grow with their audience but lost the core of what made them stand out. Not saying they should stay cutesy forever, but why does it feel like TWICE’s direction is all over the place now? Do you think it’s JYP’s fault or is the group just out of steam musically? Tbh I think Twice might be under pressure or they probably feel that they should try hard to appeal to a wider audience because of their peers like BTS and Blackpink? submitted by /u/Swimming_Strength727 [link] [comments]
I always see people saying 2nd or early 3rd gen idols “worked harder” and had less opportunity bor had it worse, but isn't the pressure today way more intense with everything being online? New gen idols get dragged for the smallest things, fanbases are ruthless, and everything is instantly global. Older idols didn’t have to deal with TikTok virality, sasaengs hacking phones, or global stans nitpicking every move. Not saying one gen is better, but can we stop pretending newer idols have it easy just because K-pop is more mainstream now or atleast known in a global scale now? Curious what y’all think. Has the pressure really gotten worse or are we overestimating the digital age? submitted by /u/Swimming_Strength727 [link] [comments]
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Make a Kpop group consisting members of Non-Asian singers or dancers You can pick any Non-Asian singer or dancer. Can be either a boy band or girl group. What roles would they have? submitted by /u/Jezzaq94 [link] [comments]