Have any of the big Kpop concerts ever been held in Portland, Oregon?

This has been the case for a while or maybe before that. Debuting such young idols and then them suffering all the brunt of the unwanted "love", idols suffering through diets to be an "ideal" idol. This is just killing them. They can't date, they can't rest, they can't breathe, I can't even imagine how suffocating they feel. As fans, we should be a safe space for them but even some of us cross boundaries and lines and hurt them. submitted by /u/Massive-Phase6525 [link] [comments]

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I hate admitting this but I’m in fact really insecure and jealous of Wonyoung. She’s everything I ever hope to be. We’re the same age and since she was 14 I was jealous of her. She’s rich, beautiful and loved. I’m not here to make people pity me but it’s just so hard to love yourself. I never hated on her, never insulted or cyberbullied her. I just feel resentful because she can pick any guy she wants, she has lots of brand deals, she has everything she wants. While I’m here trying to love what I see in the mirror I just can’t. A moment in time when I was younger I wanted to be a model to see my face everywhere like her. But I gave up that dream because my parents didn’t approve of it. I admit that my insecurity is that deep that I even blocked her on instagram. submitted by /u/deerjupiterhurricane [link] [comments]

Note: If you do not read the post, do not comment. I want this to form a discussion and that can't be done if your disagreeing with arguments you have not read. Third times the charm lol. Hopefully this does not get removed. Sorry for the long read. Obviously this can still be debated lol, just didn't want to make the title "Why Katseye may, arguably, depending on who you ask, in my opinion, be K-Pop" lol and plus I think my reasoning is pretty solid! Also, this is not that serious. (Ik my post is long yes im aware) I think we can all agree how to determine if Katseye is K-Pop or not. We must first define what K-Pop is, and then, we must determine if Katseye fits that definition. I think I am fair in making that claim. Unfortunately, this is where things already get hard as we run into our first problem. Before we can define K-Pop, we must first ask ourselves if K-Pop is even something that can be defined. What category of word is K-Pop? English words and terms all fall into one of two categories (I mean, this is an oversimplification, there are more categories but these are the main ones and the ones relevant to this conversation). The first categories are words whose definition has potential to be everchanging, not set in stone, and determined by us in every given moment. (Before you say isn't the definition of every word determined by us in every given moment, yes it is, but just bare with me for a second). The second category of words and terms are words whose strict definition represents a specific thing, and thus can't be changed, as they are directly tied to that one thing. An example would be a chair. Yes, tomorrow we can all decide that the word "chair" means something else now, but in that case, "chair" would essentially become a new word rather than the same word with a changed strict definition. Hope that kind of explains what I mean when I say the second category of words and terms can't have their definitions be changed really. (Again, gross oversimplification, the meaning of the word "chair' can technically evolve and change overtime while remaining the same word, but you get what I mean. We can say "except for when" for every single thing in the English language for infinity due to how it works. My point does serve its purpose though for this discussion.) So... which category is K-Pop? What each category tells us? If K-Pop falls under the first category, then we can never undeniably say that Katseye is K-Pop, as K-Pop would lack a strict definition and it's definition would never be set in stone. If K-Pop falls under the second category, however, we can confirm whether or not Katseye is K-Pop. The Genre Argument One may think K-Pop falls into the first category because it is a genre, and all genres definitions can and do constantly expand, evolve and change even if they also keep the core part of their definition the same. The thing is... K-Pop is NOT a genre. The definition of a genre (a word that falls into the second category as it is all-encompassing and represents a specific thing, and thus has no room to really evolve or change) is: a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. Can you honestly tell me there are no two K-Pop songs that are both clearly K-Pop that have all different composition, form, style, and subject matter? Of course you can't. You can argue there are genres within K-Pop, that have formed through industry trends, but K-Pop itself is in no way a genre. The Grey Area Argument Another reason people may argue K-Pop would fall into the first category of words is that there is many things that nobody can agree on whether or not it's K-Pop, therefore meaning that K-Pop can't fall into the second category, as there is no clear definition set in stone. While the premise is true, the conclusion follows some faulty logic. Every word in the English language, regardless of what category it falls into, can have exceptions to their definitions, and grey areas. Let's look back at the chair example. The word "chair" 100% falls into the second category, yet there is so much you can debate about over what is and what isn't a chair. If I sit on a table, is that table a chair? No, it is still a table. If we said everything you can sit on is a chair, then basically everything would be a chair, and thus the word "chair''s existence would become essentially pointless. But, a table technically can be a chair. No matter your opinion on this example, that isn't the point, the point is that even words with clear and set in stone definitions can still have "grey areas" and their definitions can still be challenged. IMPORTANT NOTE: I am talking only about the STRICT definition of a "chair", not any contextual definitions. Contextual definitions are used to help classify what is what, avoid confusion, and make our lives easier by saying for example "this {insert word} is whatever looks like this" instead of "this word means". These are not the actual definitions of words in the second category. All words in the second category have a strict definition. Chairs have contextual definitions that make it obvious a table is not a chair, I am talking about the strict definition of a chair. This applies to this entire post too pretty much. (This example is not textbook accurate but just used to sum up what I mean, obviously this issue can be a bit more complex. Chairs can actually be quite complex lol. This is just for the point of showing what I mean though.) So, to sum up, just because there are stuff that is really hard to determine if they are K-Pop or not, does not mean K-Pop does not have a strict definition. Why does K-Pop fall into the second category? K-Pop has many contextual definitions, yet we can so confidently say that two seemingly opposite K-Pop songs are both K-Pop. Why is that? How can we all agree that "Magnetic" by Illit and "Chk Chk Boom" by Stray Kids are both K-Pop when the songs are nothing alike? Well first, the fact that we can agree that two songs with no actual related similarities are both K-Pop, that confirms that the songs have nothing to do with determining if something is K-Pop or not. This also applies to the language of lyrics. When your favourite group releases an all-English single, is that not K-Pop? of course it is. Why? because the group is K-Pop. It is music made by a K-Pop group. So that tells us whether something is K-Pop or not has to do with the group. But wait a second? Solo artists can be K-Pop too. So what makes something K-Pop? Also, not all Korean artists are K-Pop, and many non-Koreans are considered K-Pop, so that means you don't have to be Korean to be K-Pop. So what do K-Pop groups and K-Pop solo artists have in common? They are all idols. That is as far back as we can pull back the curtain... almost. You see, I, a Canadian with no Korean DNA or relations to Korea could become an idol... technically speaking. I can do everything an idol does if I want by myself. Me not being Korean or anything else does not stop me from doing this. Yet, if I started to do everything an idol does, nobody would consider me K-Pop. Why? We already established you don't need to be Korean to be an idol. This means that we CAN pull the curtains back even more on determining what K-Pop is. Well, what is the difference between me being and acting like a K-Pop idol and actual K-Pop idols? The only difference is that actual K-Pop idols are formed by K-Pop companies, part of the Korean music industry. And there we have it!! Our STRICT definition for K-Pop: Music that is a product of the Korean music industry. There are obviously contextual definitions for K-Pop still, but we have pulled the curtain all the way back and found out that there is a set in stone STRICT definition of what makes something K-Pop. There can and is still grey areas as we said before, but we can confirm that K-Pop does indeed have a strict definition and thus falls into the second category of words. Why this interpretation of the strict definition of K-Pop over the other one? If you noticed, you can actually derive two definitions for what K-Pop is, even when we pulled the curtains all the way back and found the one thing connecting all K-Pop. These are: K-Pop is music that is a product of the Korean music industry. K-Pop is music made by the Korean music industry. These may seem like the same things, but they are actually very different, and only one of them can be correct. When TWICE or any other of the many artists releases their Japanese album fully produced, distributed, and made by Warner Music Japan for example, a company not in the Korean music industry (I mean they do business with companies in the Korean music industry and follow some of their methods but you get what I mean), those are still K-pop. This means that K-Pop is any music that is a product of the Korean music industry (just like TWICE is a product of the Korean music industry), the music does not have to be MADE by the Korean music industry. Now with that cleared up... Why is Katseye K-Pop? Simple. Katseye is a product of the Korean music industry. That is undeniable. They were created to be idols and through the Korean idol method, the exact same one used to make other K-Pop groups, specific to Korea. It does not matter what they market themselves as, they are, in every stretch of the imagination, undeniably a product of the Korean music industry, even if you argue they may have left the Korean music industry. Now that is another fun debate, but the answer to it will not change that fact. Why it may be okay to not call Katseye K-Pop. This is also okay. If you want to use a contextual definition of K-pop, or a sub-definition of K-Pop, instead of the strict definition of K-Pop, that is perfectly okay, and may even be better. Contextual definitions are often more serviceable and useful than strict definitions, and under most contextual definitions, Katseye is not K-Pop. However, since the strict definition is the ACTUAL definition of any word that has one, as long as you meet the requirements to fit the strict definition, you are that thing. Even if you do not fit any contextual definitions. Therefore, since Katseye fits the strict definition of K-Pop, Katseye is indeed... K-Pop!! Thanks for reading! submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

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As if we needed any more reasons to take these awards seriously… 🤣🤣🤣 submitted by /u/KyeodeurangiMerchant [link] [comments]

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Note: If you do not read the post, do not comment. I want this to form a discussion and that can't be done if your disagreeing with arguments you have not read. Sorry for the long read. Obviously this can still be debated lol, just didn't want to make the title "Why Katseye may, arguably, depending on who you ask, in my opinion, be K-Pop" lol and plus I think my reasoning is pretty solid! I think we can all agree how to determine if Katseye is K-Pop or not. We must first define what K-Pop is, and then, we must determine if Katseye fits that definition. I think I am fair in making that claim. Unfortunately, this is where things already get hard as we run into our first problem. Before we can define K-Pop, we must first ask ourselves if K-Pop is even something that can be defined. What category of word is K-Pop? English words and terms all fall into one of two categories (I mean, this is an oversimplification, there are more categories but these are the main ones and the ones relevant to this conversation). The first categories are words whose definition has potential to be everchanging, not set in stone, and determined by us in every given moment. (Before you say isn't the definition of every word determined by us in every given moment, yes it is, but just bare with me for a second). The second category of words and terms are words whose strict definition represents a specific thing, and thus can't be changed, as they are directly tied to that one thing. An example would be a chair. Yes, tomorrow we can all decide that the word "chair" means something else now, but in that case, "chair" would essentially become a new word rather than the same word with a changed strict definition. Hope that kind of explains what I mean when I say the second category of words and terms can't have their definitions be changed really. (Again, gross oversimplification, the meaning of the word "chair' can technically evolve and change overtime while remaining the same word, but you get what I mean. We can say "except for when" for every single thing in the English language for infinity due to how it works. My point does serve its purpose though for this discussion.) So... which category is K-Pop? What each category tells us? If K-Pop falls under the first category, then we can never undeniably say that Katseye is K-Pop, as K-Pop would lack a strict definition and it's definition would never be set in stone. If K-Pop falls under the second category, however, we can confirm whether or not Katseye is K-Pop. The Genre Argument One may think K-Pop falls into the first category because it is a genre, and all genres definitions can and do constantly expand, evolve and change even if they also keep the core part of their definition the same. The thing is... K-Pop is NOT a genre. The definition of a genre (a word that falls into the second category as it is all-encompassing and represents a specific thing, and thus has no room to really evolve or change) is: a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. Can you honestly tell me there are no two K-Pop songs that are both clearly K-Pop that have all different composition, form, style, and subject matter? Of course you can't. You can argue there are genres within K-Pop, that have formed through industry trends, but K-Pop itself is in no way a genre. The Grey Area Argument Another reason people may argue K-Pop would fall into the first category of words is that there is many things that nobody can agree on whether or not it's K-Pop, therefore meaning that K-Pop can't fall into the second category, as there is no clear definition set in stone. While the premise is true, the conclusion follows some faulty logic. Every word in the English language, regardless of what category it falls into, can have exceptions to their definitions, and grey areas. Let's look back at the chair example. The word "chair" 100% falls into the second category, yet there is so much you can debate about over what is and what isn't a chair. If I sit on a table, is that table a chair? No, it is still a table. If we said everything you can sit on is a chair, then basically everything would be a chair, and thus the word "chair''s existence would become essentially pointless. But, a table technically can be a chair. No matter your opinion on this example, that isn't the point, the point is that even words with clear and set in stone definitions can still have "grey areas" and their definitions can still be challenged. IMPORTANT NOTE: I am talking only about the STRICT definition of a "chair", not any contextual definitions. Contextual definitions are used to help classify what is what, avoid confusion, and make our lives easier by saying for example "this {insert word} is whatever looks like this" instead of "this word means". These are not the actual definitions of words in the second category. All words in the second category have a strict definition. Chairs have contextual definitions that make it obvious a table is not a chair, I am talking about the strict definition of a chair. This applies to this entire post too pretty much. (This example is not textbook accurate but just used to sum up what I mean, obviously this issue can be a bit more complex. Chairs can actually be quite complex lol. This is just for the point of showing what I mean though.) So, to sum up, just because there are stuff that is really hard to determine if they are K-Pop or not, does not mean K-Pop does not have a strict definition. Why does K-Pop fall into the second category? K-Pop has many contextual definitions, yet we can so confidently say that two seemingly opposite K-Pop songs are both K-Pop. Why is that? How can we all agree that "Magnetic" by Illit and "Chk Chk Boom" by Stray Kids are both K-Pop when the songs are nothing alike? Well first, the fact that we can agree that two songs with no actual related similarities are both K-Pop, that confirms that the songs have nothing to do with determining if something is K-Pop or not. This also applies to the language of lyrics. When your favourite group releases an all-English single, is that not K-Pop? of course it is. Why? because the group is K-Pop. It is music made by a K-Pop group. So that tells us whether something is K-Pop or not has to do with the group. But wait a second? Solo artists can be K-Pop too. So what makes something K-Pop? Also, not all Korean artists are K-Pop, and many non-Koreans are considered K-Pop, so that means you don't have to be Korean to be K-Pop. So what do K-Pop groups and K-Pop solo artists have in common? They are all idols. That is as far back as we can pull back the curtain... almost. You see, I, a Canadian with no Korean DNA or relations to Korea could become an idol... technically speaking. I can do everything an idol does if I want by myself. Me not being Korean or anything else does not stop me from doing this. Yet, if I started to do everything an idol does, nobody would consider me K-Pop. Why? We already established you don't need to be Korean to be an idol. This means that we CAN pull the curtains back even more on determining what K-Pop is. Well, what is the difference between me being and acting like a K-Pop idol and actual K-Pop idols? The only difference is that actual K-Pop idols are formed by K-Pop companies, part of the Korean music industry. And there we have it!! Our STRICT definition for K-Pop: Music that is a product of the Korean music industry. There are obviously contextual definitions for K-Pop still, but we have pulled the curtain all the way back and found out that there is a set in stone STRICT definition of what makes something K-Pop. There can and is still grey areas as we said before, but we can confirm that K-Pop does indeed have a strict definition and thus falls into the second category of words. Why this interpretation of the strict definition of K-Pop over the other one? If you noticed, you can actually derive two definitions for what K-Pop is, even when we pulled the curtains all the way back and found the one thing connecting all K-Pop. These are: K-Pop is music that is a product of the Korean music industry. K-Pop is music made by the Korean music industry. These may seem like the same things, but they are actually very different, and only one of them can be correct. When TWICE or any other of the many artists releases their Japanese album fully produced, distributed, and made by Warner Music Japan for example, a company not in the Korean music industry (I mean they do business with companies in the Korean music industry and follow some of their methods but you get what I mean), those are still K-pop. This means that K-Pop is any music that is a product of the Korean music industry (just like TWICE is a product of the Korean music industry), the music does not have to be MADE by the Korean music industry. Now with that cleared up... Why is Katseye K-Pop? Simple. Katseye is a product of the Korean music industry. That is undeniable. They were created to be idols and through the Korean idol method, the exact same one used to make other K-Pop groups, specific to Korea. It does not matter what they market themselves as, they are, in every stretch of the imagination, undeniably a product of the Korean music industry, even if you argue they may have left the Korean music industry. Now that is another fun debate, but the answer to it will not change that fact. Why it may be okay to not call Katseye K-Pop. This is also okay. If you want to use a contextual definition of K-pop, or a sub-definition of K-Pop, instead of the strict definition of K-Pop, that is perfectly okay, and may even be better. Contextual definitions are often more serviceable and useful than strict definitions, and under most contextual definitions, Katseye is not K-Pop. However, since the strict definition is the ACTUAL definition of any word that has one, as long as you meet the requirements to fit the strict definition, you are that thing. Even if you do not fit any contextual definitions. Therefore, since Katseye fits the strict definition of K-Pop, Katseye is indeed... K-Pop!! Thanks for reading! submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

I genuinely respect how happy her group makes her but it’s constant 😩 she knows I have no interest in it and we’ve actually had arguments about it because I either say something about them she finds offensive or she’s upset I don’t understand or share her enthusiasm. It’s gotten to the point in the past that I’ve had to tell her that I have no interest in hearing about them from her anymore. Things would get better and somehow we are back again. I love her to pieces and we always have plenty to talk about outside of KPOP but I’m SOOOO tired of hearing about them. She insists or likes to joke that I hate them- it’s not true. It’s just not my taste of music. But I’m actually starting to hate them now. If it’s not new music, it’s drama about them, or bragging about them and how wonderful and philanthropic they are, some new record they set with streaming or money earned, UGHHH there’s always something to say or way to include them in our conversation. She’s gotten better about it but I know she doesn’t really have anyone else to talk to?? I’ve suggested she find or make more friends who love her group but she doesn’t like the fandom 🙄 but also brags about how powerful they are and the things they’re capable of. To me, it’s a basic conversational rule to not bring up topics consistently that you KNOW OR CAN TELL THE OTHER PARTY HAS NO INTEREST IN. For example: I love to run and workout - yet I never talk to her about it, I don’t discuss my plans, PRs, running shoes, my latest run, etc. Like COME ON. I want to scream. I try to just not respond but then she’ll ask me if I watched that video about so and so. I try to buy her little gifts and knick knacks of her favorite band to show my support and be there for her but god I’m about ready to lose my mind. I just don’t know how else to handle it. I want to be there for her- I know how much their music has brought her comfort. submitted by /u/fuckyouiloveu [link] [comments]

Atleast don’t make it so obvious lol. submitted by /u/4aewinter [link] [comments]

My relatives work for HYBE and they interact with idols everyday, I don’t live in Korea so I don’t know much about the industry to that extent but I’ve been in the building before and have met some of them in real life. I know that some HYBE idols have great reputations even before they debuted according to their school mates and even after debut, some of them always receive compliments from staff. Do you think that if you knew them behind the cameras, you can still guarantee the common phrase everyone says about their idols? Because my idols I want to almost guarantee that they would never because I’ve actually interacted with them in a private setting but a lot of kpop fans might disagree saying that it’s still parasocial and that I should never trust anyone within the industry. submitted by /u/Odd_Nefariousness912 [link] [comments]

Ayudenme a generar en este video porfi, es para un concurso, de paso si quieres comentar adelante n_n <3 submitted by /u/No_Brother_9517 [link] [comments]

It seems like Korea will never let them down. submitted by /u/4aewinter [link] [comments]

If you are a wav on the tripleS sub, this image has been burned into your brains thanks to me, u/Gilarak and a few others... Mustache Hayeon is gorgeous submitted by /u/DdeonghwaDib [link] [comments]

They’re making headlines after headlines right now. A LOT of people are assuming that GD had a strong - negative influence on Lee soo hyuk because his behaviors and demeanor changed overnight. Some even claim he’s purposely pretending to be GD as some sort of publicity stunt. What do you think about all the things that’s being said about those two? submitted by /u/Which_Mammoth9402 [link] [comments]

I want to expand my music taste, i mostly listen to boy groups but girl groups and soloists are more than welcome !! Also give your favorite song recc from the group ❤️ submitted by /u/FunnyEfficiency2390 [link] [comments]

For me, I could never differentiate I.N and Lee Know in SKZ when I first learned about them (tho now I can't believe I ever confused those two!). I also admittedly had a hard time with Winter and Karina of aespa (again, can't believe I ever confused them now). Which duo was it for you? submitted by /u/Smart_Narwhal8698 [link] [comments]

I have been a fan since 2019, but I have been aware of K-pop since 2014/2015 and I’ve seen the K-pop fandom shift over the past decade based on the posts I’ve been seeing back then and the posts I’m seeing now. Just 10 years ago, K-pop wasn’t as accessible as it was today. Many K-pop groups were starting to travel outside of South Korea and America and entering to cities such as London and Paris via small venues that has no bigger capacity than 12,000 people. This would mean that most people mainly interacted with K-pop via online forums, Tumblr or even YouTube comment sections. It was a non judgmental space where did whatever the heck they want to do. Not trying to say that nothing happened of course. It certainly did, but it almost felt like the friendships made were more genuine if anything. Some people contributed for the community and made fanfictions, fanart, memes, sometimes even GAMES??? So many creative outlets, but fanfictions were definitely at its prime around 2013-2018. People were looking for those stuff when there’s no new content coming from their faves. Plus, they were just starting to translate stuff. We didn’t have live translations unfortunately so while we waited, we went into the depths of Wattpad to find your favourite EXO omegaverse story. If they had the funds to do so, they would be able to buy merch with a lot of fees attached to it that would make the price go from $50 to $125.79 in a heartbeat. Usually, people just use their money to go to a South Korea trip, since it would make sense to buy an expensive to get the items you wanted online as opposed to buying straight up. Nowadays, K-pop is much more accessible and more K-pop groups and idols are traveling to countries across Europe and different parts of the world such as South America and a bit of Asia, they are able to bring their faves to most people around the world. And if you weren’t lucky enough to have your faves come over as often, there would be fanmade events such as Cupsleeve Events, Random Play Dances, photobooths that were specifically made in Korea with events in there, K-pop stores, Karaoke bars, VR concerts at the Cinema and so many that I may have not named. Personally, I don’t think K-pop being more accessible is the problem. In fact, it would’ve benefited so many people who had the interest for many years, having to jump so many hurdles, just to finally rest and have everything given to them. Or, they are completely resentful about it and are jealous of the next generation being able to have so many K-pop events when they became a fan when everything was just starting out. I think the problem is the fact that Gen Z are basically the surveillance generation thanks to Instagram. We were shown picture perfect models on our feeds due to the fact that in 2016, millennials were the trend setters for the younger people and they wanted to emulate that. Eventually, many tweens didn’t want to be tweens anymore (possibly due to so many of them being bullied for having fun) so they went straight to makeup and everything that was deemed “grown.” That was why we dressed the way we did and acted the way we did. In the 2020s, everything took a huge turn when all of a sudden became aware of how they were acting due to how people pretty much lacked common sense and started filming everyone, which was why a lot of people had a fear of being perceived negatively in any way shape or form. Unfortunately, this attitude swept into the K-pop fandom, which is why all of a sudden fanfictions were considered something “weird” and “cringe” when it was something a lot of K-pop fans back in 2015 praised due to the fact that it was a way for us to get “new K-pop content” as well as a way to share to your community your love for K-pop as an interest. Plus, there’s so many contents out there of your faves now so people started to find it pointless of making fanfictions of your faves when they’re literally pumping out content non stop. Nowadays, if you ever go on Tiktok to look up videos. Most of them would be stuff linked to over-consumerism such as showing off their K-pop album collection, showing off the concerts they went to, going to South Korea, etc, or it would be a video of someone who has a “talent” such as singing, dancing, making edits, drawing, etc. All of these videos would present well enough that it could create a sort of fomo in yourself like you’re missing out, especially when these videos are meant to share the most perfect, aesthetically pleasing images and steady and non cringy videos of you at a concert. It may not seem like much, but once you start to see bunch of the same videos, you start to feel like you need to post the same way. Cut the part out when you scream, make it colour coded, you have to dress the part, you need aesthetically pleasing K-pop friends, you have to be in a dance group, etc. All of this would be overwhelming to someone who may simply do not want to be a part of those groups and simply want to be a K-pop fan without needing to have a talent or over-consume. As someone who has seen both sides of the K-pop fandom, it’s kinda understandable as to why so many teenagers want to be 2nd generation fans. Yes, they won’t be able to have the things that they got. They won’t be able to show off their faves in a photocard holder, they won’t be able to take fun photobooths with their friends, heck they’ll need to travel to South Korea in order to do some more activities other than being at home on their PCs while catching up with friends on LiveJournal! But the reason why, is because they rather go back to the simpler times where they were able to see their favourite 2nd generation group release their favourite songs however way they did it. Heck, I did that with SHINee, even though it led me into a downward spiral that I had to get out of. I don’t blame them at all. Not to mention, this current generation is overwhelming. I tried to sign up to ATEEZ’s TokToq Subscription as well as Seonghwa’s and San’s Fromm messages. There were TOO many notifications. Not to mention, whenever it’s a member’s birthday (especially my biases) it is absolutely HELL. 30 back to back messages from Seonghwa, a live notification on YouTube, 2 TokToq notifications, a YouTube notification on ATEEZ’s account, 3 notifications on Instagram on ATEEZ and Seonghwa’s account, a notification on Twitter- not to mention, I started taking ATEEZ seriously from when they’re released work. Since then, they had FIVE COMEBACKS????? no actually, SIX??? (if you consider hongjoong and oderari as a comeback since it’s a collab.) Look, I love ATEEZ more than my parents, but this is getting too much right now. Also, the rise of the word “parasocial” in normal fandom spaces could also be the fact that Tiktokers love to utilise therapy talk, the same way people online like to use the word “gaslighting” or “oversharing” even though they may use the word incorrectly or not in the right context. Before 2019, nobody was using parasocial to describe their love for K-pop idols, meaning it was a recent phenomenon used by Gen Z and Gen Alphas who may have gotten their therapy talk vocabulary from Tiktok and started labelling anyone as parasocial, even if they have a slight connection with their faves, even if they were not using it in the right context. All I’m gonna say is, fandom culture is dying. Nobody wants to be whimsy anymore and have fun? Don’t get me wrong, it’s definitely still happening but we need more posts from someone just having fun instead of miserable people ruining it for us. I don’t need no fairy themed outfits for TXT’s concert, we need a TXT Peter Pan inspired story- look see????? You can make fanfictions without all of that yucky stuff if you’re not into it. There’s so many possibilities! I missed our cringe side. I loved when we used to have so much fun. If I could travel back in time, I wish to be in 2015 for the fans. I just need them back. ☹️ submitted by /u/asahilovesjjong [link] [comments]