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That's the Google translation, but what a headline. Thanks for making me laugh again at business headlines. English version of full report is on YG's IR Disclosures page, the Report on Business Performance posted 2025.08.11. Babymonster and Treasure tours helped get them back to profitability. Blackpink's should help in latter half of the year. YG's net income is surprisingly low compared to peers, even in earlier years, given Blackpink is the biggest female group and their luxury deals are the most prominent in Kpop. Maybe Blackpink members themselves get a bigger cut of those? Or their other groups hadn't taken off as much, and there was no other girl group until Babymonster last year. Report shows YG's net income of 8 billion won For context, JYP posted 69 billion won last quarter when I started writing this, and just reported 36.3b Hybe: 15b won SM: 30.9b won Hybe has the biggest revenue, about 3x JYP and the two most profitable years among Big 4. Hybe's sales are bigger because of acquisition. The streaming revenue of Ithaca holding labels is roughly on par with Hybe's Kpop the past 4 years. But past two years JYP's been the net income leader. I got the impression Hybe's spending on Katseye hurt their profit last year. It's starting to pay off now (7 day link). I'll focus on Hybe later. JYP mature groups. Lower costs, higher profit I think JYP benefits from two mature girl groups; another mature group, Stray Kids fills the BTS enlistment vacuum. The name recognition lowers 'customer acquisition cost' for tours, which have become more profitable in recent years for the top groups. Little YG investor relations info I notice on YG's site, they don't have any kind of presentation breaking down any details. Even their peers' earnings presentations aren't as anywhere near the detail of the 10-Qs required by the US from publicly traded companies. YG just links straight to the income statement KRX (Korea Exchange) site. Is there some Korean version I'm not seeing, as far as conference call notes, etc? (The site in Korean just seems to be the same.) There's only the minimum required disclosures on Korea's DART site run by the government financial regulator, their SEC. Anyone notice the interesting SM report? SM does have a much higher net income in their last quarter, that seems to be related to accounting for their purchase of DearU shares. I have seen it and will break it down separately. The music business net income is lower than JYP's. There seem to be noncash investment gains of the consolidated SM-DearU. submitted by /u/hyeran_jainros_fc [link] [comments]

I've recently been seeing so much debate over celebrities (both kpop and non-kpop) and problematic stuff they've said or done and it's kinda getting frustrating at this point. I'm gonna start off by saying this isn't about any specific event, it's more general because i've seen this multiple times, I just want to share my own take. It's not crazy to want the people you stan to be decent people. Every post I see on every platform whenever someone gets "cancelled" is "celebrities aren't politicians" , "not everyone is perfect" or "you're holding them to an impossible moral standard so you can hate". All this stuff is true to some extent, people do make mistakes, people are ignorant sometimes and yeah they're not politicians, I don't expect them to end every world or social issue. But at the end of the day they're humans before being a celebrity and I will treat them as such. That means having empathy for them but also expecting basic decency from them. How is it ridiculous to say you want the people you support to have basic decency and align with your morals? It's okay to hold celebrities to your moral standards (as long as you're not a hypocrite about it and not even holding yourself accountable to those same standards) Also it's not absurd to want a celebrity with a big platform to use it for good. Of course that's not their job but idk about you, if I had a big platform and could use it to spread awareness about whatever I wanted to millions of fans I would. Sure they're always people who're hypocrites and don't care, they only want to join a hate train or have a "valid" reason to send hate to someone they dislike, that's like pretty much half of cancel culture. I noticed this a while ago that most people don't care about what xzy did or said, they just enjoyed banding together to drag them and/or make jokes about it only to act like it never happened 6 months later. Or they only drag others but find a way to excuse it when it's their favorite group or themselves. However that doesn't invalidate the genuine criticism others make, you can criticize that first group of people but if using that to excuse whatever an idol did or said is just really unfair And yeah sometimes people do need backlash (keyword: backlash, not hate, not death threats) because that's how you grow. Like I said before people make mistakes, sometimes you don't know that something is bad or why it's bad but someone calls you out on it, you acknowledge that you did something wrong, educate yourself and change. But that's really not gonna happen if fans are defending you like you're an angel and act like the people criticizing you are all trying to sabotage you out of jealousy. I'm not acting like I'm a saint who's never made a mistake and who's better than everyone but I'm just really tired of people acting like not wanting to support a person who has views you don't agree with or has done bad things is crazy to me. Once again kpop idols are people just like us so why should they be exempt from basic human decency. Obviously every public figure, even normal people, show a curated version of themselves to everybody and hide whatever they want to hide but I'll assume they're a decent person unless they give me a reason to believe otherwise. However, you'd never catch me posting "xyz would never" because once again I don't really know them and if they do or say something that doesn't align with my morals I'm obviously not gonna blindly defend them and act like they're somehow deserve some kind of pass because i idolize them so much or because "their music has nothing to do with it". submitted by /u/periwinkle-grey [link] [comments]

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I wasted an afternoon using Google Trends to find the most searched-for fourth-gen idols worldwide in the last year. I also broke down the data by country and time to find out which idols were more searched-for in certain regions and time periods. Note: In this post, I use "most popular" in place of "most searched-for." However, most searched-for doesn’t necessarily = most liked. Also, Google is not the dominant search engine everywhere, including in South Korea, though it still accounts for a significant portion of search traffic there. Note 2: This is not a scientific study. While I tried to be as accurate as possible, I may have made a small error here or there, and I couldn’t include the results from every country for every idol. 4th Gen It Boys Felix Hyunjin Bangchan Ni-ki Lee Know Yeonjun Note: Some have argued that Felix’s numbers may be inflated due to users searching for Felixes other than Felix of Stray Kids. However, Google Trends segregates results for Felix the kpop idol vs. the general search term Felix. Felix Currently the no.1 fourth-gen idol in the highest number of countries. Started far behind Bangchan and Hyunjin in 2019, then caught up to Bangchan in 2020, and then to Hyunjin in 2022. He started consistently trending above Hyunjin in April 2024 and has only continued to rise. Far ahead of all other it boys in the US, UK, Canada, and most of Europe. Also ahead in Australia, but not by as much as I expected. Either just a little ahead of or behind Hyunjin for #1 in most South American and East Asian countries (other than South Korea, where Yeonjun dominates, or in Indonesia, Japan, and the Philippines, where Ni-ki dominates). The only country where he falls all the way down to no. 5 is Indonesia. Hyunjin King of the it boys in 2019-2021. Remains very in demand since peaking in 2023. Wildly popular in Indonesia and West Asia. Also popular in Latin American countries like Brazil, Peru, Chile, and Venezuela, and in several European countries where he’s just a little behind Felix. Still popular in the US, UK, Canada, and Australia, even though Felix is clearly ahead. Popular throughout SEA, even when he’s getting crushed by Ni-ki. Way more popular than Bangchan in South Korea and Japan, though still getting crushed by Yeonjun and Ni-ki respectively. There is no country where he is unpopular. Bangchan Not the most popular anywhere, but incredibly stable in third place almost everywhere. The only places where he is tragically unpopular (in last place by a vast margin) are South Korea and Japan. Ni-ki Crushes everyone in Japan, Indonesia, and the Philippines. Also popular in some other SEA countries, including Malaysia and Singapore, and South Asian countries, including India and Pakistan. More popular than Yeonjun in Europe, Australia, and the US, but not in Latin America. Lee Know Started well behind the others in 2019, but steadily rose through 2023 and has since remained stable. Popular in Latin America (Chile, Peru, Argentina) and Europe (Finland, Ireland, Portugal, Belarus, Italy). Less popular in SEA - Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia. Despite claims of Japan's special love for him, he trends far behind everyone there except Bangchan. Yeonjun Third-place it boy behind Hyunjin and Felix in 2021-2022, but has been on a moderate decline since the end of 2022. Currently the no.1 boy only in South Korea. Popular in SE/East Asian countries like Taiwan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Hong Kong, Vietnam, and Japan. The least popular boy in Europe and Latin America, as well as in Australia and the US. 4th Gen It Girls Karina Wonyoung Winter Hanni Chaewon Ningning Note: While I originally intended to only research 5 it girls, Hanni’s trajectory over the past year has been unusual, so I added the sixth most searched-for girl (Ningning) as a wildcard. Karina Karina was far behind Wonyoung in 2022-2023, but following her dating “scandal” in early 2024, interest in her has skyrocketed, and she has remained ahead of Wonyoung ever since. Crushing everyone in South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Thailand, and Malaysia. In places where neither she nor Wonyoung is crushing everyone, the two of them are usually pretty close to equal. Wonyoung Queen of the it girls from 2022-2023, but has slightly declined while Karina skyrocketed. Crushing everyone in Latin American countries like Peru, Chile, Argentina, Colombia, and Mexico. Also in Central, South, and West Asian countries like Russia, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, India, Iran, and UAE. Shockingly behind Karina in East Asia (South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong) excl. Japan. Exactly 50/50 with Karina in the US and Australia. Winter Solid third place in South Korea and other East/SE Asian countries. Trails further behind in Western countries (US/Canada, Australia/New Zealand, Europe) as well as in Singapore and the Philippines. Usually far behind Karina, but comes closest to catching up to her in Latin America. Hanni As you may have guessed, Hanni has the most interesting trajectory of any of the girls. In 2023, she trended third or fourth worldwide among it girls. She had multiple spikes in interest throughout 2024, but since April of this year, she has trended well below the others in the top 5. She places second or third behind Karina and/or Wonyoung in Australia, most of Latin America, the Philippines, and Japan. She was second in Vietnam prior to 2024, but now places fourth. Contrary to my expectations, she hasn't placed higher than fourth in South Korea, either before or after 2024. Chaewon While Sakura got all the attention at Le Sserafim’s debut in 2022, Sakura has since declined out of the top 6 while interest in Chaewon has remained slightly more stable. Chaewon was in second place from Nov 22 - Apr 23 and in third place from May 23 - Mar 24, but all 5 members of Le Sserafim experienced a precipitous decline immediately following their April 2024 Coachella performance that none of them have since recovered from. Chaewon is ahead of Winter and/or Hanni in: US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe. Peru, Chile, Argentina, Mexico, and Colombia. Japan, Singapore, and the Philippines. She’s less popular in other SE/East Asian countries - South Korea, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam. Ningning In most places, she is very close to 50/50 with Winter. What’s really killing her ranking is the severe lack of interest for her in South Korea, and to a lesser extent in Taiwan and Japan. Winter is twice as popular as Ningning in Taiwan and Japan and almost 4x more popular than her in South Korea. Boys vs. Girls Stray Kids Round - Felix / Hyunjin vs. Karina / Wonyoung The girls are crushing the boys to an almost comical degree (92% v. 8%) in South Korea and to a less extreme but still embarrassing extent in Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. Outside of East and SEA countries, the reverse is true, with Felix & Hyunjin occupying a combined 70-90% of searches in most places. The only places that are somewhat more equal are Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and India, though F & H still win out. Non-Skz Round - Ni-ki / Yeonjun vs. Karina / Wonyoung The girls again dominate in East/SE Asia. Elsewhere, the girls and the boys are pretty close to equal, though Australia, Canada, and New Zealand still lean toward the girls. Combined Fourth Gen Top 15 Felix Karina Hyunjin Wonyoung Bangchan Ni-ki Winter Lee Know Hanni Yeonjun Han Sunghoon Chaewon Seungmin Ningning Yes, Karina had a spike in interest at the end of May, but she still normally trends just above or below Hyunjin, so second place wouldn't be unexpected anyway. There are significant gaps between Felix < > Karina/Hyunjin < > Wonyoung < > Bangchan < > the rest, but from Ni-ki down, the gaps are very small. Most Interesting Findings In summary, here are the trends I personally found most interesting: Karina’s dating “scandal” did nothing but boost her career. While she trended well below Wonyoung in 2023, she started consistently trending ahead of Wonyoung after early 2024 and is now indisputably the fourth-gen it girl. Chaewon was in second or third among it girls from late 2022-early 2024 but permanently fell off along with the other Le Sserafim members immediately following Coachella in 2024. Felix has risen in popularity consistently since Stray Kids’ debut, and he is the only member continuing to rise while the others have remained static or seen a slight decline since 2023. Yeonjun has significantly declined since his peak in 2021-2022, and even his first solo release in 2024 didn’t provide a sustained bump. It's also interesting that he's more popular in East/SE Asian countries than in Western countries, given the perception that HYBE is best at promoting in the West. South Korea is commonly said to only care about girls, and that held true. With the incredible disparity in popularity between Karina/Winter and Ningning/Giselle, the conventional wisdom that South Korea only cares about Koreans also held true. Europe's and Latin America's preferences were almost always in tandem. Maybe because they are the two biggest markets to be consistently shafted by certain companies (SM and HYBE)? Outside East/SE Asia, it’s less of a boy group domination and more of a Stray Kids domination. Skz members are crushing everyone, everywhere, all around the world, whether male or female. Other male idols are on about the same level of popularity as the biggest female idols in non-East Asian countries. submitted by /u/eveningsnewestetoile [link] [comments]

Day 37 Results: ITZY win by 61 votes! Vote for your favorite and as always poll closes in 24 hours! If you're unsure of who to vote for, here's a couple songs to help your decision: MAMAMOO - Piano man MAMAMOO - Egotistic MAMAMOO - Taller Than You I-DLE - HANN (Alone) I-DLE - LION I-DLE - LATATA First Half Second Half Disclaimer: This tournament is not a “comparison”. The seeds were randomized and I didn’t pick the matchups. The songs picked are amongst their most popular because they’re easy to recognize. If you have another song suggestion you may leave it in the comments but please refrain from complaining about the song not being included. View Poll submitted by /u/PushOffTheGround [link] [comments]

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I was just going through clips on YT Shorts and found this. Like I knew BLACKPINK team cheer was unique but didn’t knew it was that different from every other group lol. Everyone cheer with hype and loudness, and here is BLACKPINK with the most saddest cheer lol. submitted by /u/Daddy1007a [link] [comments]

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I'm going to start off by saying I'm not an ELF. But a big deal has been made Super Junior's 20th anniversary comeback and, like it or not, they're pretty well known in South Korea. So they popped up on a bunch of youtube channels and shows I occasionally watch and checked out some of them (e.g. Chattering with Na - Na PD's show where he casually chats with actors, musicians and other personalities). In multiple instances of these appearances all recorded before album release, they mentioned that things felt different this time. They mentioned that they were all really behind the title track, that it was trendy, everyone was really putting a lot of effort in, heechul joined a full dance routine for the first time in 10 years etc. Most notably: they specifically said things like they think it will do really well this time, that it's a hot track, and that they think it might get them to the top of the charts again. I haven't kept up with releases or chart news or anything over the last couple of years. How would you say the song fared since it was released about a month ago? Here, internationally (where Super Junior seems tbh to be near universally disliked) but also what you know of SK / domestic performance? Did it have any impact at all? I'm just curious because I don't think I've seen a group ever be that candid about their hopes and expectations and I'm wondering if it was met submitted by /u/6pcChickenNugget [link] [comments]

There was recently a txt fancall and this moa showed soobin basically a moaning sextape for Yeonbin (yeonjun and soobin ship) and this poor boy had to sit through it with no staff members ending the call or nothing Then to say he didn’t say anything because he felt “guilty”? No girl you made him severely uncomfortable but he didn’t say anything because he’s trying to do fanservice. They need to either end fancalls all together, regulate who wins these things, or have the staff actually step in when things like this happen submitted by /u/Active-Beyond5453 [link] [comments]

Lets make a girl group and give some underrated Idols from gen 4/5 some more visibility! A close fought battle was won today with a score of 25 to 22..... Your Rapper is Sunhye from Young Posse! Here are a couple rules to follow! Only one member per group Here's a list of the already represented groups: Purple Kiss, Billlie, Young Posse After reading comments from day 1's post here are the groups not allowed: No members from JYP, SM, YG or HYBE No IVE, (I)dle, StayC, Kep1er, I*ZONE or KIOF Please only comment an Idol only once and upvote if you see the one you wanted to say! I will use whatever comment that has the highest amount of upvotes. Please only one member per comment. I cannot calculate votes if you put more than one member. Please comment member and group they are from. I apologize if my girl group knowledge is not as strong as my bg, but I will do my best to make sure we really get some underrated gems in here! I will make a post around the same time everyday and voting will be open for about 24h. Day 4 pick your center!!! submitted by /u/MegaGlaceon22 [link] [comments]

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I’m looking for songs by girl groups (GG) that scream feminism and girl power? I’m also looking for GG that push boundaries (could be new or old) I’m a fan of IVE, I-dle, ITZY, le sserafim, 2ne1, and more, but I wonder if there’s more groups that I’m unfamiliar with that also push boundaries and challenge stereotypes submitted by /u/otaku_hotgurl888 [link] [comments]

That's it. That's the post. Head empty. Love Taeyeon. submitted by /u/beelzebub2099 [link] [comments]

I find these days most kpop songs have to much english, awkward english lyrics or english lyrics that dont make sense. Just curious if there are any songs that just have Korean lyrics. submitted by /u/xsilentowlx [link] [comments]

Sorry for not knowing many of these groups’ music (but definitely heard most of their name before). An oldie like me can’t even keep up with all these new groups anymore. Anyway, feel free to roast my list as much as you want lmao (“OMG! Why this group is so low/ too high? Such a shitty taste.”) submitted by /u/ronnietp [link] [comments]