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I know nugu female idols who are the top vocalists in their gen but I'm not aware of nugu female idols who are the top dancers and rappers in their gen. Nugu idols are also very talented. I'm a big nugu gg enthusiast. Name any nugu female idols (group members and soloists) from 1st-5th gen that you think are the top dancers and rappers of their generation. submitted by /u/Toast_powered_2096 [link] [comments]
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1990: š„Yoona (SNSD) - 20 upvotes š„Sooyoung (SNSD) - 9 upvotes š„Choa (Ex AOA) - 7 upvotes 1991: š„Irene (Red Velvet) - 59 upvotes š„Solar (Mamamoo) - 35 upvotes š„Seohyun (SNSD) - 17 upvotes 1992: š„Moonbyul (Mamamoo) - 31 upvotes š„Hani (EXID) - 17 upvotes š„Sunmi (Soloist/Ex Wonder Girls) - 16 upvotes 1993: š„IU (Soloist) - 45 upvotes š„Eunji (Apink) - 11 upvotes š„Luna (f(x)) - 8 upvotes 1994: š„Seulgi (Red Velvet) - 102 upvotes š„Wendy (Red Velvet) - 55 upvotes š„Bae Suzy (Ex miss A/Soloist) - 42 upvotes 1995: š„Nayeon (TWICE) - 73 upvotes š„Wheein and Hwasa (Mamamoo) - 18 upvotes TIE š„Kwon Eunbi (Soloist) - 17 upvotes 1996: š„Sana (TWICE) - 78 upvotes š„Jeongyeon (TWICE) - 40 upvotes š„Momo (TWICE) - 33 upvotes 1997: š„Jihyo (TWICE) - 80 upvotes š„Mina (TWICE) - 52 upvotes š„Miyeon (i-dle) - 22 upvotes 1998: š„Dahyun (TWICE) - 37 upvotes š„Sakura (LE SSERAFIM) - 31 upvotes š„Soyeon (i-dle) - 19 upvotes 1999: š„Tzuyu (TWICE) - 76 upvotes š„Chaeyoung (TWICE) - 50 upvotes š„Yuqi (i-dle) - 30 upvotes 2000: š„Yeji (ITZY) - 80 upvotes š„Chaewon (LE SSERAFIM) - 71 upvotes š„Shuhua (i-dle) - 48 upvotes 2001: š„Winter (Aespa) - 70 upvotes š„Ryujin (ITZY) - 55 upvotes š„Chaeryeong (ITZY) - 38 upvotes 2002: š„Ningning (Aespa) - 67 upvotes š„Lily (NMIXX) - 36 upvotes š„Gaeul (IVE) - 35 upvotes 2003: š„An Yujin (IVE) - 62 upvotes š„Haewon (NMIXX) and Yuna (ITZY) - 59 upvotes TIE š„Kazuha (LE SSERAFIM) - 47 upvotes 2004: š„Wonyoung (IVE) - 92 upvotes š„Bae (NMIXX) - 44 upvotes š„Sullyoon (NMIXX) - 42 upvotes 2005: š„Jiwoo (NMIXX) - 62 upvotes š„Pharita (Babymonster) - 21 upvotes š„Cocona (XG) - 18 upvotes 2006: š„Eunchae (LE SSERAFIM) - 66 upvotes š„Kyujin (NMIXX) - 51 upvotes š„Asa (Babymonster) - 5 upvotes 2007: š„Leeseo (IVE) - 28 upvotes š„Wonhee (ILLIT) - 27 upvotes š„Kim Soomin (tripleS) - 12 upvotes Rules: You can comment on the same idol more than once, but only the comment with the most upvotes will count. For example, if there are many comments for Idol A with 1 upvote each, but one comment for Idol B has more upvotes, then Idol B wins. Comments that mention more than one idol will be disqualified. The second and third most upvoted idols will be given honourable mentions in the post. Please write the name of the group or add āsoloistā if sheās a soloist. Reminder: Please read the title and follow the rules properly. There is a male version on another account. Please donāt ask me to add male idols. submitted by /u/mirroway [link] [comments]
I'm not Atiny, but these songs are incredibly good. They make you want to go fight for whatever. Jongho's voice brings all his soul and strength to the songs. submitted by /u/Separate-Comedian-25 [link] [comments]
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Hiii pls bmf and also lets be moots on my ig! I follow back and yes pls im cool guys heheh its a new acc iād love to be moots š„¹ my ig is @bittenkissiess submitted by /u/angel__val [link] [comments]
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This has been the case for a while or maybe before that. Debuting such young idols and then them suffering all the brunt of the unwanted "love", idols suffering through diets to be an "ideal" idol. This is just killing them. They can't date, they can't rest, they can't breathe, I can't even imagine how suffocating they feel. As fans, we should be a safe space for them but even some of us cross boundaries and lines and hurt them. submitted by /u/Massive-Phase6525 [link] [comments]
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I hate admitting this but Iām in fact really insecure and jealous of Wonyoung. Sheās everything I ever hope to be. Weāre the same age and since she was 14 I was jealous of her. Sheās rich, beautiful and loved. Iām not here to make people pity me but itās just so hard to love yourself. I never hated on her, never insulted or cyberbullied her. I just feel resentful because she can pick any guy she wants, she has lots of brand deals, she has everything she wants. While Iām here trying to love what I see in the mirror I just canāt. A moment in time when I was younger I wanted to be a model to see my face everywhere like her. But I gave up that dream because my parents didnāt approve of it. I admit that my insecurity is that deep that I even blocked her on instagram. submitted by /u/deerjupiterhurricane [link] [comments]
Note: If you do not read the post, do not comment. I want this to form a discussion and that can't be done if your disagreeing with arguments you have not read. Third times the charm lol. Hopefully this does not get removed. Sorry for the long read. Obviously this can still be debated lol, just didn't want to make the title "Why Katseye may, arguably, depending on who you ask, in my opinion, be K-Pop" lol and plus I think my reasoning is pretty solid! Also, this is not that serious. (Ik my post is long yes im aware) I think we can all agree how to determine if Katseye is K-Pop or not. We must first define what K-Pop is, and then, we must determine if Katseye fits that definition. I think I am fair in making that claim. Unfortunately, this is where things already get hard as we run into our first problem. Before we can define K-Pop, we must first ask ourselves if K-Pop is even something that can be defined. What category of word is K-Pop? English words and terms all fall into one of two categories (I mean, this is an oversimplification, there are more categories but these are the main ones and the ones relevant to this conversation). The first categories are words whose definition has potential to be everchanging, not set in stone, and determined by us in every given moment. (Before you say isn't the definition of every word determined by us in every given moment, yes it is, but just bare with me for a second). The second category of words and terms are words whose strict definition represents a specific thing, and thus can't be changed, as they are directly tied to that one thing. An example would be a chair. Yes, tomorrow we can all decide that the word "chair" means something else now, but in that case, "chair" would essentially become a new word rather than the same word with a changed strict definition. Hope that kind of explains what I mean when I say the second category of words and terms can't have their definitions be changed really. (Again, gross oversimplification, the meaning of the word "chair' can technically evolve and change overtime while remaining the same word, but you get what I mean. We can say "except for when" for every single thing in the English language for infinity due to how it works. My point does serve its purpose though for this discussion.) So... which category is K-Pop? What each category tells us? If K-Pop falls under the first category, then we can never undeniably say that Katseye is K-Pop, as K-Pop would lack a strict definition and it's definition would never be set in stone. If K-Pop falls under the second category, however, we can confirm whether or not Katseye is K-Pop. The Genre Argument One may think K-Pop falls into the first category because it is a genre, and all genres definitions can and do constantly expand, evolve and change even if they also keep the core part of their definition the same. The thing is... K-Pop is NOT a genre. The definition of a genre (a word that falls into the second category as it is all-encompassing and represents a specific thing, and thus has no room to really evolve or change) is: a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. Can you honestly tell me there are no two K-Pop songs that are both clearly K-Pop that have all different composition, form, style, and subject matter? Of course you can't. You can argue there are genres within K-Pop, that have formed through industry trends, but K-Pop itself is in no way a genre. The Grey Area Argument Another reason people may argue K-Pop would fall into the first category of words is that there is many things that nobody can agree on whether or not it's K-Pop, therefore meaning that K-Pop can't fall into the second category, as there is no clear definition set in stone. While the premise is true, the conclusion follows some faulty logic. Every word in the English language, regardless of what category it falls into, can have exceptions to their definitions, and grey areas. Let's look back at the chair example. The word "chair" 100% falls into the second category, yet there is so much you can debate about over what is and what isn't a chair. If I sit on a table, is that table a chair? No, it is still a table. If we said everything you can sit on is a chair, then basically everything would be a chair, and thus the word "chair''s existence would become essentially pointless. But, a table technically can be a chair. No matter your opinion on this example, that isn't the point, the point is that even words with clear and set in stone definitions can still have "grey areas" and their definitions can still be challenged. IMPORTANT NOTE: I am talking only about the STRICT definition of a "chair", not any contextual definitions. Contextual definitions are used to help classify what is what, avoid confusion, and make our lives easier by saying for example "this {insert word} is whatever looks like this" instead of "this word means". These are not the actual definitions of words in the second category. All words in the second category have a strict definition. Chairs have contextual definitions that make it obvious a table is not a chair, I am talking about the strict definition of a chair. This applies to this entire post too pretty much. (This example is not textbook accurate but just used to sum up what I mean, obviously this issue can be a bit more complex. Chairs can actually be quite complex lol. This is just for the point of showing what I mean though.) So, to sum up, just because there are stuff that is really hard to determine if they are K-Pop or not, does not mean K-Pop does not have a strict definition. Why does K-Pop fall into the second category? K-Pop has many contextual definitions, yet we can so confidently say that two seemingly opposite K-Pop songs are both K-Pop. Why is that? How can we all agree that "Magnetic" by Illit and "Chk Chk Boom" by Stray Kids are both K-Pop when the songs are nothing alike? Well first, the fact that we can agree that two songs with no actual related similarities are both K-Pop, that confirms that the songs have nothing to do with determining if something is K-Pop or not. This also applies to the language of lyrics. When your favourite group releases an all-English single, is that not K-Pop? of course it is. Why? because the group is K-Pop. It is music made by a K-Pop group. So that tells us whether something is K-Pop or not has to do with the group. But wait a second? Solo artists can be K-Pop too. So what makes something K-Pop? Also, not all Korean artists are K-Pop, and many non-Koreans are considered K-Pop, so that means you don't have to be Korean to be K-Pop. So what do K-Pop groups and K-Pop solo artists have in common? They are all idols. That is as far back as we can pull back the curtain... almost. You see, I, a Canadian with no Korean DNA or relations to Korea could become an idol... technically speaking. I can do everything an idol does if I want by myself. Me not being Korean or anything else does not stop me from doing this. Yet, if I started to do everything an idol does, nobody would consider me K-Pop. Why? We already established you don't need to be Korean to be an idol. This means that we CAN pull the curtains back even more on determining what K-Pop is. Well, what is the difference between me being and acting like a K-Pop idol and actual K-Pop idols? The only difference is that actual K-Pop idols are formed by K-Pop companies, part of the Korean music industry. And there we have it!! Our STRICT definition for K-Pop: Music that is a product of the Korean music industry. There are obviously contextual definitions for K-Pop still, but we have pulled the curtain all the way back and found out that there is a set in stone STRICT definition of what makes something K-Pop. There can and is still grey areas as we said before, but we can confirm that K-Pop does indeed have a strict definition and thus falls into the second category of words. Why this interpretation of the strict definition of K-Pop over the other one? If you noticed, you can actually derive two definitions for what K-Pop is, even when we pulled the curtains all the way back and found the one thing connecting all K-Pop. These are: K-Pop is music that is a product of the Korean music industry. K-Pop is music made by the Korean music industry. These may seem like the same things, but they are actually very different, and only one of them can be correct. When TWICE or any other of the many artists releases their Japanese album fully produced, distributed, and made by Warner Music Japan for example, a company not in the Korean music industry (I mean they do business with companies in the Korean music industry and follow some of their methods but you get what I mean), those are still K-pop. This means that K-Pop is any music that is a product of the Korean music industry (just like TWICE is a product of the Korean music industry), the music does not have to be MADE by the Korean music industry. Now with that cleared up... Why is Katseye K-Pop? Simple. Katseye is a product of the Korean music industry. That is undeniable. They were created to be idols and through the Korean idol method, the exact same one used to make other K-Pop groups, specific to Korea. It does not matter what they market themselves as, they are, in every stretch of the imagination, undeniably a product of the Korean music industry, even if you argue they may have left the Korean music industry. Now that is another fun debate, but the answer to it will not change that fact. Why it may be okay to not call Katseye K-Pop. This is also okay. If you want to use a contextual definition of K-pop, or a sub-definition of K-Pop, instead of the strict definition of K-Pop, that is perfectly okay, and may even be better. Contextual definitions are often more serviceable and useful than strict definitions, and under most contextual definitions, Katseye is not K-Pop. However, since the strict definition is the ACTUAL definition of any word that has one, as long as you meet the requirements to fit the strict definition, you are that thing. Even if you do not fit any contextual definitions. Therefore, since Katseye fits the strict definition of K-Pop, Katseye is indeed... K-Pop!! Thanks for reading! submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]
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Note: If you do not read the post, do not comment. I want this to form a discussion and that can't be done if your disagreeing with arguments you have not read. Sorry for the long read. Obviously this can still be debated lol, just didn't want to make the title "Why Katseye may, arguably, depending on who you ask, in my opinion, be K-Pop" lol and plus I think my reasoning is pretty solid! I think we can all agree how to determine if Katseye is K-Pop or not. We must first define what K-Pop is, and then, we must determine if Katseye fits that definition. I think I am fair in making that claim. Unfortunately, this is where things already get hard as we run into our first problem. Before we can define K-Pop, we must first ask ourselves if K-Pop is even something that can be defined. What category of word is K-Pop? English words and terms all fall into one of two categories (I mean, this is an oversimplification, there are more categories but these are the main ones and the ones relevant to this conversation). The first categories are words whose definition has potential to be everchanging, not set in stone, and determined by us in every given moment. (Before you say isn't the definition of every word determined by us in every given moment, yes it is, but just bare with me for a second). The second category of words and terms are words whose strict definition represents a specific thing, and thus can't be changed, as they are directly tied to that one thing. An example would be a chair. Yes, tomorrow we can all decide that the word "chair" means something else now, but in that case, "chair" would essentially become a new word rather than the same word with a changed strict definition. Hope that kind of explains what I mean when I say the second category of words and terms can't have their definitions be changed really. (Again, gross oversimplification, the meaning of the word "chair' can technically evolve and change overtime while remaining the same word, but you get what I mean. We can say "except for when" for every single thing in the English language for infinity due to how it works. My point does serve its purpose though for this discussion.) So... which category is K-Pop? What each category tells us? If K-Pop falls under the first category, then we can never undeniably say that Katseye is K-Pop, as K-Pop would lack a strict definition and it's definition would never be set in stone. If K-Pop falls under the second category, however, we can confirm whether or not Katseye is K-Pop. The Genre Argument One may think K-Pop falls into the first category because it is a genre, and all genres definitions can and do constantly expand, evolve and change even if they also keep the core part of their definition the same. The thing is... K-Pop is NOT a genre. The definition of a genre (a word that falls into the second category as it is all-encompassing and represents a specific thing, and thus has no room to really evolve or change) is: a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter. Can you honestly tell me there are no two K-Pop songs that are both clearly K-Pop that have all different composition, form, style, and subject matter? Of course you can't. You can argue there are genres within K-Pop, that have formed through industry trends, but K-Pop itself is in no way a genre. The Grey Area Argument Another reason people may argue K-Pop would fall into the first category of words is that there is many things that nobody can agree on whether or not it's K-Pop, therefore meaning that K-Pop can't fall into the second category, as there is no clear definition set in stone. While the premise is true, the conclusion follows some faulty logic. Every word in the English language, regardless of what category it falls into, can have exceptions to their definitions, and grey areas. Let's look back at the chair example. The word "chair" 100% falls into the second category, yet there is so much you can debate about over what is and what isn't a chair. If I sit on a table, is that table a chair? No, it is still a table. If we said everything you can sit on is a chair, then basically everything would be a chair, and thus the word "chair''s existence would become essentially pointless. But, a table technically can be a chair. No matter your opinion on this example, that isn't the point, the point is that even words with clear and set in stone definitions can still have "grey areas" and their definitions can still be challenged. IMPORTANT NOTE: I am talking only about the STRICT definition of a "chair", not any contextual definitions. Contextual definitions are used to help classify what is what, avoid confusion, and make our lives easier by saying for example "this {insert word} is whatever looks like this" instead of "this word means". These are not the actual definitions of words in the second category. All words in the second category have a strict definition. Chairs have contextual definitions that make it obvious a table is not a chair, I am talking about the strict definition of a chair. This applies to this entire post too pretty much. (This example is not textbook accurate but just used to sum up what I mean, obviously this issue can be a bit more complex. Chairs can actually be quite complex lol. This is just for the point of showing what I mean though.) So, to sum up, just because there are stuff that is really hard to determine if they are K-Pop or not, does not mean K-Pop does not have a strict definition. Why does K-Pop fall into the second category? K-Pop has many contextual definitions, yet we can so confidently say that two seemingly opposite K-Pop songs are both K-Pop. Why is that? How can we all agree that "Magnetic" by Illit and "Chk Chk Boom" by Stray Kids are both K-Pop when the songs are nothing alike? Well first, the fact that we can agree that two songs with no actual related similarities are both K-Pop, that confirms that the songs have nothing to do with determining if something is K-Pop or not. This also applies to the language of lyrics. When your favourite group releases an all-English single, is that not K-Pop? of course it is. Why? because the group is K-Pop. It is music made by a K-Pop group. So that tells us whether something is K-Pop or not has to do with the group. But wait a second? Solo artists can be K-Pop too. So what makes something K-Pop? Also, not all Korean artists are K-Pop, and many non-Koreans are considered K-Pop, so that means you don't have to be Korean to be K-Pop. So what do K-Pop groups and K-Pop solo artists have in common? They are all idols. That is as far back as we can pull back the curtain... almost. You see, I, a Canadian with no Korean DNA or relations to Korea could become an idol... technically speaking. I can do everything an idol does if I want by myself. Me not being Korean or anything else does not stop me from doing this. Yet, if I started to do everything an idol does, nobody would consider me K-Pop. Why? We already established you don't need to be Korean to be an idol. This means that we CAN pull the curtains back even more on determining what K-Pop is. Well, what is the difference between me being and acting like a K-Pop idol and actual K-Pop idols? The only difference is that actual K-Pop idols are formed by K-Pop companies, part of the Korean music industry. And there we have it!! Our STRICT definition for K-Pop: Music that is a product of the Korean music industry. There are obviously contextual definitions for K-Pop still, but we have pulled the curtain all the way back and found out that there is a set in stone STRICT definition of what makes something K-Pop. There can and is still grey areas as we said before, but we can confirm that K-Pop does indeed have a strict definition and thus falls into the second category of words. Why this interpretation of the strict definition of K-Pop over the other one? If you noticed, you can actually derive two definitions for what K-Pop is, even when we pulled the curtains all the way back and found the one thing connecting all K-Pop. These are: K-Pop is music that is a product of the Korean music industry. K-Pop is music made by the Korean music industry. These may seem like the same things, but they are actually very different, and only one of them can be correct. When TWICE or any other of the many artists releases their Japanese album fully produced, distributed, and made by Warner Music Japan for example, a company not in the Korean music industry (I mean they do business with companies in the Korean music industry and follow some of their methods but you get what I mean), those are still K-pop. This means that K-Pop is any music that is a product of the Korean music industry (just like TWICE is a product of the Korean music industry), the music does not have to be MADE by the Korean music industry. Now with that cleared up... Why is Katseye K-Pop? Simple. Katseye is a product of the Korean music industry. That is undeniable. They were created to be idols and through the Korean idol method, the exact same one used to make other K-Pop groups, specific to Korea. It does not matter what they market themselves as, they are, in every stretch of the imagination, undeniably a product of the Korean music industry, even if you argue they may have left the Korean music industry. Now that is another fun debate, but the answer to it will not change that fact. Why it may be okay to not call Katseye K-Pop. This is also okay. If you want to use a contextual definition of K-pop, or a sub-definition of K-Pop, instead of the strict definition of K-Pop, that is perfectly okay, and may even be better. Contextual definitions are often more serviceable and useful than strict definitions, and under most contextual definitions, Katseye is not K-Pop. However, since the strict definition is the ACTUAL definition of any word that has one, as long as you meet the requirements to fit the strict definition, you are that thing. Even if you do not fit any contextual definitions. Therefore, since Katseye fits the strict definition of K-Pop, Katseye is indeed... K-Pop!! Thanks for reading! submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]
I genuinely respect how happy her group makes her but itās constant š© she knows I have no interest in it and weāve actually had arguments about it because I either say something about them she finds offensive or sheās upset I donāt understand or share her enthusiasm. Itās gotten to the point in the past that Iāve had to tell her that I have no interest in hearing about them from her anymore. Things would get better and somehow we are back again. I love her to pieces and we always have plenty to talk about outside of KPOP but Iām SOOOO tired of hearing about them. She insists or likes to joke that I hate them- itās not true. Itās just not my taste of music. But Iām actually starting to hate them now. If itās not new music, itās drama about them, or bragging about them and how wonderful and philanthropic they are, some new record they set with streaming or money earned, UGHHH thereās always something to say or way to include them in our conversation. Sheās gotten better about it but I know she doesnāt really have anyone else to talk to?? Iāve suggested she find or make more friends who love her group but she doesnāt like the fandom š but also brags about how powerful they are and the things theyāre capable of. To me, itās a basic conversational rule to not bring up topics consistently that you KNOW OR CAN TELL THE OTHER PARTY HAS NO INTEREST IN. For example: I love to run and workout - yet I never talk to her about it, I donāt discuss my plans, PRs, running shoes, my latest run, etc. Like COME ON. I want to scream. I try to just not respond but then sheāll ask me if I watched that video about so and so. I try to buy her little gifts and knick knacks of her favorite band to show my support and be there for her but god Iām about ready to lose my mind. I just donāt know how else to handle it. I want to be there for her- I know how much their music has brought her comfort. submitted by /u/fuckyouiloveu [link] [comments]