VIVIZ SinB will guest on Billlie Moon Sua & Suhyeon's EBS FM ‘Let’s Learn Korean’ on June 19th at 2:15PM KST

I want to re-visit this topic - an interesting topic to me as a dinasour kpop fan (yup as early as 2000-ish) who used to watch MVs downloaded from p2p programme, Youtube was not yet bought by Google, literally lived in kpop forums before X/Twitter exists and before 1 million views is something we marveled and Spotify and iTunes are something I never used before. And yes, the time when kpop album sales went from 1+ million (1st gen) to 100-200k (2nd gen) and 100k is considered great achievement. People used to discuss how ‘international popularity’ is not sustainable compared to ‘Korean popularity’. Now that social media like TikTok, X/Twitter and IG are huge marketing tool for kpop, Spotify/iTunes/Apple Music/Youtube Music existence and how kpop companies are getting international distributors especially in the US and Japan (I know Europe is still sketchy when it comes to local distribution), I feel like the shift is inevitable. Looking at the trend, I feel like international popularity, even without Korean popularity is doable for a kpop group to sustain itself to even be very profitable and long-lasting. While international popularity may not translate well into Korean popularity (and similarly vice versa), I feel like we cannot belittle its importance in kpop anymore. There are groups like Day6, QWER and The Boyz who has Korean popularity but has less impact internationally which is still great as they can do big concerts in Korea (Goyang Stadium/KSPO Dome), has great Korean streaming numbers and many Korean CFs. There are also groups like Stray Kids and Enhypen who have less Korean presence but have good sales and non-Korean streaming numbers. Of course in ideal world we would like to be popular both in Korea/internationally ala BTS/BP/NJ but now that kpop reach is closer due to the internet age and social media, international popularity is not something we can just scoff at. Interestingly, out of the groups that are relatively unpopular in Korea like SKZ can do KSPO Dome and stadium tour because of their international popularity. I feel like we now have come to an era that Korea, international or both popularity is something acceptable and as I said, groups can sustain and even be profitable with either or both types of popularity. 1st/2nd gen works differently as lots of idols shifted into becoming variety stars/actors/actresses and we have rare soloist like Taeyeon/GD who actually are quite successful. If you notice, starting 3rd gen the trend has shifted that there are still 3rd gen groups who are still actively promoting as a group eg Twice. And 4th gen starting with The Boyz/SKZ/Ateez/Idle who are still making music actively into their 7th year including touring. Group like SKZ is not even attempting to be in Korean variety nor acting even in their 7th year (2nd gen idols were already acting in their 2nd to 3rd year, it became very common, some even as soon as they debuted back then). Likely because there is no need as their music can sustain their career at this point of time. That said, we are into 5th generation with lots of groups which have Korean attention so we shall see if the trend shifts again. What do you guys think? submitted by /u/Many-Ad-9007 [link] [comments]

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This is the first ILLIT comeback I’ve paid attention to since I’m a new fan, and this album really lives up to my expectations. It’s my second fav album from them, I’ll like you is still my number one fav. I preordered the weverse version and the merch version of bomb. Here’s my ranking of the songs and my thoughts on them: little monster: The lyrics, instrumental, and vocals in this song are tip-top. The message of the song is really touching. Instead of being scared of our fears (“little monsters”), we conquer them by turning that fear into strength. The song feels consoling and helps ease stress. I love how it beautifully blends its weird, eerie, and cute vibes in the brand film MV. Minju's part in the brand film, “Remember the magic inside you” is superb. The members floating up with their wands really give off Sailor Moon vibes. jellyous: This song honestly sounds like a video game soundtrack. It’s the cutest song on the album. Imo, it would make a great 2nd title track. Do the Dance The instrumental at the start sets the tone for the song and it’s so satisfactory. It really brings a fresh, disco-like twist to ILLIT’s signature style. bamsopoong/night picnic: bamsopoong/night picnic is a strong showcase of ILLIT’s dreamy side much like Midnight Fiction and Pimple. This song is DEFINITELY Midnight Fiction’s little sister <3. It’s a perfect song to listen to for a night picnic, a late-night drive or doing anything relaxing. Oops! The funky bass in this song is exalted though but it's my least fav song on the album. All in all, it’s a bass-heavy, hook-centric, and cohesive album. This album is a no-skip for me. submitted by /u/mirroway [link] [comments]

i thought a lot of the scenes such as annie’s were very interesting and thought they could relate back to her being a chaebol but i wanted to dive deeper into that. Were there any other hidden meanings in the mv? submitted by /u/throwaway4897433 [link] [comments]

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Does this mean they're locked into to debut? Because it seems kinda cruel to be showcasing them to the world only to not debut them later. But it seems like they won't debut for another 2 years so I don't really understand. 2 years seem like a long time to confirm something beforehand, like they're obviously talented but how is YG so sure that these girls will be the Top 4 frontrunners amongst trainees for the next 2 years? What if other trainees improve and overtake them, would they still have no chance to replace these introduced girls? To be honest I don't really love this style of promotion. Babymonster had a very long drawn out period of more than a year from being introduced to actual debutation and even that felt very dragged out. I'd say hype was highest 1-2 months after introductions, but after a year plus of getting teased, the girls just felt like old news by the time they actually debuted it didn't even feel like a real debut. And now this group is going to take EVEN LONGER at 2 years. Then again it was 4 years between when Lisa & Jennie was first introduced (2012) to their actual debut date (2016), so maybe it's not an issue, but that would mean YG are extremely confident these 2 4 girls are going to be the chosen ones. Sidenote: I wonder why YG only teased Jennie & Lisa prior to debut. Like maybe those 2 were the locked in members since 2012 and the other 2 were still up for grabs for the other trainees to compete for the 2 remaining debut positions? submitted by /u/papapamrumpum [link] [comments]

Is there anything that KPop has taught you about your musical tastes/preferences in music? Im a huge music fan, growing up listening to 80s then the whole hip hop scene in the 90s, and ultimately discovering KPop mid 2010s. I notice that for me, the production is everything, while lyricism is hardly a factor at all. But, I absolutely value vocals (RV is my ult). I definitely prefer Korean tones even though I understand virtually nothing. Harmonies and electronic music form the perfect union for me. Has anyone experienced anything like this? submitted by /u/M_Prodigy [link] [comments]

I will cover 3 issue: His braids Him following Tory Lanez ’’Mocking’’ black culture by calling him Tarzann For the first one,all of you are just not it like there is a difference between culture appropriation and culture appreciatio.Over a year ago,he had said he briefly went to the US and got inspired by black artists and their styles.Unlike KIOF,he isn’t disrespectful in anyway For the second one,I feel that he shouldn’t be following him in such way as he shot someone though behind it may have some reason to it,for example take liking his music or just not knowing this whole mess at all,everyone makes mistakes! For the third one,he only named himself that as he is tan and y’all are not happy at all and saying that he thinks white people are more superior to the others and I just don’t get it,you keep cancelling K-pop idols for mere unreasonable conclusions like Young Posse even had to cancel their christmas release and when Manon said the n word,y’all were fine but when Julie and BP says it,you go as far as to hack them.I don’t understand,I feel most of the haters are not even black or Hispanic and just hate for the sake of hating Protect him and Allday Project,he doesn’t deserve it at all submitted by /u/Icy_Age_6024 [link] [comments]

Obviously recently released albums without at least a full 1 week+ tracking are not added (since you need at least a week or more for the vast majority of sales to be counted). Top10 for both BG and GG, with an additional (close) 11th place respectively. Boy groups: Artist Best-selling album Total Most recent album Total Seventeen FML (2023) 6.4M HAPPY BURSTDAY (2025) 2.7M Stray Kids 5-STAR (2023) 5.2M HOP (2024) 2.2M BTS MOTS7 (2020) 5.1M PROOF (2021) 3.5M NCT DREAM ISTJ (2023) 4.27M DREAMSCAPE (2024) 1.59M TXT THE NAME CHAPTER: TEMPTATION (2023) 3.3M THE STAR CHAPTER: SANCTUARY (2024) 1.9M Enhypen ROMANCE: UNTOLD (2024) 3.09M DESIRE: UNLEASH (2025) 2.19M NCT127 STICKER (2021) 2.4M WALK (2024) 1.1M Zerobaseone YOUTH IN THE SHADE (2023) 2M BLUE PARADISE (2025) 1.3M Treasure RABOOT (2024) 1.9M PLEASURE (2025) 803K EXO EXIST (2023) 1.8M EXIST (2023) 1.8M Ateez THE WORLD EP.FIN: WILL (2023) 1.79M GOLDE HOUR : PART 2 (2024) 1.49M​ Girl Groups: Artist Best-selling album Total Most recent album Total Blackpink BORN PINK (2022) 3M BORN PINK (2022) 3M NewJeans Get Up (2023) 2.26M Supernatural (2024) 1.3M Aespa MY WORLD (2023) 2.17M WHIPLASH (2024) 1.1M IVE IVE MINE (2023) 2.1M IVE EMPATHY (2025) 1.48M (G)-IDLE 2 (2023) 1.7M WE ARE (2025) 1.05M TWICE READY TO BE (2023) 1.67M STRATEGY (2024) 947K ITZY KILL MY DOUBT (2023) 1.2M GOLD (2024) 707K LE SSERAFIM EASY (2024) 1.18M HOT (2025) 707K Red Velvet THE REVE FESTIVAL 2022 - BIRTHDAY (2022) 995K COSMIC (2024) 314K BabyMonster DRIP (2024) 959K DRIP (2024) 959K NMIXX EXPERGO (2023) 953K Fe3O4: FORWARD 751K​ submitted by /u/silveraes [link] [comments]

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could be anything, e.g. number of group members, lack of promotion, past scandals, etc ! this is just for fun and not meant to cause any division between fandoms, let's please be mature! submitted by /u/Obvious-Name352 [link] [comments]

So I’m half Vietnamese and I often get complimented (especially when being with other kpop fans) as „Korean“. „You look Korean“ is such a weird compliment and I’m asking all of you to stop using it (if you do). Because what do you mean, „they look Korean“? Do you mean they look like a Kpop idol? Do you think all Koreans look like idols or actors? Do you think all Koreans look perfect? It’s just so weird and generalising and plays being Korean down as just being pretty. So again, if you compliment people by saying they look Korean, don’t. Just say they’re pretty or something, but saying someone looks Korean is just weird. submitted by /u/DaGayEnby [link] [comments]

It's been six years since her debut... and it's been in The Black Label basement for almost a year (if not longer). And now with the AllDay Project right there in the corner... (I don't hate AllDay, just the person who manages the groups) Ice Cream wasn't even a good comeback... Somi is so talented, and no one is giving her support at that company... it makes me very sad, because with Dumb Dumb and XOXO she showed that she had the potential to be a very recognized soloist.... submitted by /u/_issio [link] [comments]

Essentially, what do you think were certain songs, debuts, events and scandals in K-Pop that would unwittingly change the trajectory of K-pop and how it is today. Feel free to drop an explanation too! For me my picks are (in no particular order): Burning Sun SNSD's Into the New World BTS's debut Sulli's early death JYJ & EXO's members suing SM NewJean's debut Boa's success in Japan T-Ara scandal BlackPink's debut There are likely many, many more but I'll stop here. Intrigued to see your picks :) Let's all be kind! submitted by /u/angie_kiprevski [link] [comments]

I do like it. Im surprised it wasnt a Teddy-esque empty chorus and just AAVE thrown out everywhere - I might have judged a little too early. Although knowing its YG-adjacent abd Teddy is involved I am still not convinced they will stay away from it forever submitted by /u/thebarted [link] [comments]