i completely get music is subjective so before you come for me i’d like to say- this is not to say their music is awful and the worst stuff ever made, if you enjoy it then you enjoy it and that’s great. but i have really noticed a problem/pattern with their title tracks in the last like, 3-ish years. also i’m not a stay and i only ever really listen to the title tracks or what’s being promoted online, just to preface. anyway- i remember asking myself why the last time i liked something from them was the noeasy era with thunderous, and why i immediately wasn’t feeling maniac/case 143 after. and every song after that. but it’s because all these songs follow the same exact structure. i don’t know if this has to do with them switching to being more self produced or writing more of their own songs or whatever but i’m not kidding when i say every…single…song. is the exact same. they all have a repetitive chorus that begins with a more mellow version of the “catchphrase” of the song (maniac, “vamos i know that you want it boom”, lalalala) and then another person sings the same line but like…more aggressive? i don’t really know how to describe it but just listen to the choruses of maniac and case 143 and you’ll see what i mean. i think this structure of a song just ultimately gets kind of repetitive and boring especially because they’re never really singing the chorus, per se, and of course they’re not a super vocally strong group so fine, but they’re always just sort of like…chanting it? there just is really no variety in their title tracks at least- i’m sure there’s some in their b-sides but at the end of the day title tracks are what are being promoted and spread to the public. noise music CAN, and HAS been done right. coming from an nctzen i am a huge fan of noise music and even chanty choruses, but i just find nct to do their noise music so much more…tastefully? if the song has chanting as the chorus it balances it out with lots of vocal parts to not let it get boring. if the chorus is a vocal chorus, it’s not the same line repeated, instead it’s a whole phrase of a complex melody. it’s just so much more interesting and dynamic especially as a musician, like even the little details of nct’s noisy tracks do it for me. basically if you need an example of noise music done really right then nct (127 specifically) is absolutely the group for it. even sticker, even if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea (it is mine 😁) is just a fundamentally well structured and diverse song. sure the piccolo is a little out there, but because of the actual singing and rapping in the song it doesn’t become repetitive and instead serves as a good backbone for the track. stray kids HAS done noise music right, and that’s what annoys me, is that just in these last 3-ish years their music has declined so much for me. miroh, for example, is a really really well done song, and a pretty noisy one at that. but because they don’t rely on one singular phrase to complete the whole song it is very dynamic for me and just interesting to listen to. god’s menu, back door, double knot, even hellevator, all rely on the instrumental and not a repeated phrase, which, though it sounds contradicting, makes the song much more interesting. lots of these older songs (not god’s menu and back door obviously, but like pre-2020 i guess) are more youthful and fun probably because they were younger and early in their careers, so these booming, like, coming of age songs probably don’t work when they’re all in their mid-late twenties. but now that they’ve realized the whole party anthem easily tiktokified earworm-like noise tracks are what do them good (in terms of money probably) that’s what they stick to making. i have no problem with following a formula but you can make a catchy song without using the same structure for every one of them. illit for example has lots of very catchy songs but i would argue they’re all pretty unique. i noticed ceremony was written by 3racha and like one other guy and i was not at all surprised because it is the exact formula of a stray kids song. relies on one phrase “hip hip hooray” (jesus christ) and the chorus is them just repeating it. and the karma part was even worse because it was basically a secondary chorus, and that word was also just repeated so much. also the way they said ceremony sounded like sandwich. sorry i’m being nitpicky but yeah i can definitely tell it was a self written produced track made in 2021, at least that’s what i’ve heard about the song and it completely tracks. but i guess this is more just because i used to really dig their music and i was a stay for like a year, and thunderous was my first comeback, and of course it was highly impressive and i really liked their discography. and then maniac dropped, and fine, a different style, but whatever. and then case 143 dropped, and it was basically the same song- same structure, same key, same people (hyunjin and felix) saying those low-voiced lines in the chorus that really irked me. once i realized i didn’t really like the direction they were going in i stopped being a fan, and now looking at it i think they’ve just stuck to that exact same formula. look. do what works best for the money, since i know they’re probably JYP’s biggest artist after twice and whatever they’re doing is working, and even people talking about them negatively still gives them attention, so it’s fine. but their songs are just so…boring. there’s so much and yet so little going on that it’s just not fun to listen to. again, not saying you should stop liking them, and if you like their songs and their direction, that’s amazing. i just kind of had to dissect why i believed so many people would say stuff online like “noeasy was their last good era” because i think they’re spot on, that noeasy was the last time they ever took a remotely interesting direction in their music. but let me know if you guys feel the same way or have noticed similar things. submitted by /u/_whatareYOUdoinghere [link] [comments]
the problem with stray kids’ title tracks
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