A quick note about the generalization rule

I’ve been into K-pop for a while, and one thing I’ve noticed is how rare it is to find idols who feel genuinely honest or real. A lot of them seem either super filtered because of company pressure, or they go the opposite way and develop this weird ego after a bit of success. And when fans do notice this behavior, they either ignore it or twist it into some "misunderstood genius" storyline. What bugs me most is when people say stuff like, “You’d understand if you stanned them” or “Watch their YouTube vlogs, you’ll see the real them.” Like…no? Watching highly edited content where they’re 100% aware a camera is filming them doesn’t tell me anything about their actual personality. Especially when they’re being extra soft or funny for the fans, and they’re surrounded by their members who they’ve trained and lived with for years. Of course they’ll seem close and warm in that setting. That’s not the same as being a down-to-earth or genuinely kind person. Also, can we talk about how fake a lot of variety show appearances feel now? It’s all scripted banter, “chaotic energy,” and the same fake laugh they’ve rehearsed a hundred times. It’s not to say idols have to be super open or vulnerable,we all have our boundaries but let’s stop pretending that being charming on camera equals being a good person. There are definitely some idols who come across as more real and honest, and you can just feel it in how they speak, how they handle uncomfortable situations, or how they talk about the industry without sounding like a PR machine. But those types are rare. It’s totally fine to like idols for the entertainment they provide but fans acting like they personally know these people and defending every red flag is just weird. It’s okay to admit that we don’t really know most of these idols, and that not every one of them is a humble, kind-hearted angel behind the scenes. submitted by /u/Starpeachhhh- [link] [comments]

I used to extensively collect pcs and merch, and my main goal when collecting pcs would be to always collect everything in the template, but it has gotten exhausting and tiring. I'm not sure if this is the same for other groups, but Ateez has too many pcs per comeback. It's never-ending. From POBs to albums pcs and to endless fansign and fancall pcs. Why are they still doing fancalls 3-4 months after the release of their albums? Why is there a Soundwave fancall event ROUND 7? Are they not tired? Cause I am from collecting all these pcs. And it's starting to annoy me a little because a lot of the pcs have similar poses, just that they're in different clothes. It's extremely repetitive. And some of their fancalls were done while they were touring... It's absolutely insane knowing how extensive and long their tour is. And why do things like Season Greetings, concert DVDs and photobooks for example, need 3-7 different POBS from 3-7 different sites?! You're telling me I now need to have multiple Season Greeting's just to get that POB? Otherwise, I will just have to buy it off others for double or triple the price? Insane. And the merch? Diabolical pricings. I missed the dateline to order San's 2023 birthday merch, and now it's reselling for over $100... For a 10cm doll... It pisses me off because I want the doll so badly but I am not gonna be throwing $100 just for a doll 🥲 Not to mention how different merch comes with different pcs so if I want that pc then I would have to buy MORE merch. They just KNOW how to suck us financially dry 😭 I've now decided to just collect the pcs that are really cute, in my opinion, or those with really cute props and outfits for the sake of my wallet. But unfortunately, I'm a sucker for merch, especially keyring dolls, so.. Sigh.. Take my money.. submitted by /u/Alone_Collection1507 [link] [comments]

For context, GOT7 just had a comeback earlier this year and just had two massive concerts, one in SK and another in Thailand. Group activities were well satisfied given how busy they are as individuals. Mark is releasing a new single, “High As You”, on May 30th and has been doing promo for it lately. He’s done a few IG lives, dropped a few teasers, concept photos, etc. On a previous Iive, he explicitly said it was to talk about “High As You”. Answer any questions or curiosities we had. He was quite excited. Despite him saying this in advance, some fans still asked him about “when GOT7’s new comeback would come out” and about more group activities. He had to, again, make it clear that the live was just for his single. That he had nothing to say about a group cb. Then in his most recent live, again dedicated to discussing “High As You”, fans AGAIN kept asking him about group activities and GOT7’s next comeback. You could tell he was disappointed, and he had to explain that there won’t be a cb for quite awhile since two members will be enlisting this year. But everyone knew this already. If you’re joining IG Lives, then there’s no way you didn’t already know about the members’ upcoming enlistment. They talk about it all the time. Everywhere. On social media, at their group and solo concerts, etc. He shouldn’t have had to repeat this just to stop the questions (as if they stopped lol) It’s just so sad when they encounter fans like this. I’m an Ahgase, but I also think fans should respect when the members are promoting their solo works. It feels disrespectful to only talk about “but when are we getting more group stuff” in the middle of a members’ solo promotion (unless they mention it first ofc.) It makes it seem as though that’s all fans care about, group content and not the members as individuals. I’m not saying everyone should know everything all the time. Nor am I saying fans shouldn’t be curious about group activities. But if you’re truly curious, it’s so easy to look things up elsewhere (especially when it’s something everyone’s talking about like the members’ upcoming enlistment!) instead of spamming it in one member’s lives when he explicitly stated the point of the lives was to discuss his solo work. I know this is a problem that will never change. It’s not new for fans to do this when one member goes live. I’m just ranting about how disrespectful it seems. submitted by /u/strawbebb [link] [comments]

So I just watched the "next monster" debut clip and it brought out a huge rant for me about how YG is already failing this group. I'm so disappointed in YG right now on multiple levels. Obligatory disclosure: I've been a fan of all YGGGs since 2NE1. I love BLACKPINK and BABYMONSTER. This is a critique of any of them, or of any members of the YGNGG. This is solely about YG's failings as a CEO and as a company. Despite what others may think, when BABYMONSTER's rollout was happening, it felt very fresh to me. The cover videos with minimal staging, lighting, and outfits helped to spotlight the members' raw talents without them having any specific concept or image yet, especially with how the cover genres being all over the place (R&B, pop, rap, a country song). Then came the intro videos with each of the members' personal stories, most of which were quite vulnerable. In comparison to BP's untouchable it girls, high-production, swagger image, it felt strikingly different in a good way. It got me really excited for BABYMONSTER to have a different style and concept from their seniors. The other thing is, they changed up each cover to make it uniquely their own. The slowed-down tempo of Rami's Let Me Love You, the acoustic instrumentation for Traitor, Asa applying her range to Me Myself and I, etc. all helped those covers to shine. There was work put into those covers to make them high-quality, which helped draw attention to this new group. I still go back and listen to those covers today, I prefer some of them to the original versions because of what they brought to that song. Now that BABYMONSTER has been around for a while, we can clearly see the similarities and differences between them and their senior groups, 2NE1, BLACKPINK, BIGBANG, TREASURE, etc. I personally see them as having a brighter, more upbeat sound and vibe to YG's other two GGs, and feel that they've successfully differentiated themselves. I think their unique rollout and the focus on raw vocal talent was a big part of that. We know BABYMONSTER's debut was in the works for years. YG copyrighted BABYMONSTER and BAEMON back in like 2018 IIRC, and there were trainee rumors floating around for 3-4 years before they finally debuted. Now, less than two years in, we get this - a stale repeat of the BABYMONSTER model, even up to the point of re-using the word monster. It's so incredibly lazy and does nothing to differentiate this new group, or reinforce the uniqueness of BABYMONSTER. It's the exact same style of video. I also don't feel like this is a good showcase of this girls' talent. She's not making this cover uniquely hers, it's like karaoke. Her rap flow and English pronounciation isn't good, despite the video mentioning she's Australian. it hurts to watch this because I have no doubt she's talented and has better performances under her belt to showcase that. What an awful first impression to give an audience, both of this girl and of the whole group. It feels like what happened is the board of investors told YG "all of your competitors have 3-4 active GGs at this point, what are you doing? get a new GG out ASAP" and YG snapped to attention and rushed a thoughtless rollout, assuming their brand would automatically make it a success. The girls of this new YG girl group, who I'm sure have given up so much, worked so hard, and put up with so much harshness to pursue this, deserve so, so much better. If YG is going to spend time and $$ investing in them, they need to set them up to success by differentiating them from their seniors and all the competition. Not do... whatever messiness this is. EDIT: I'm not responding to comments that clearly didn't read my post and are inserting assumptions on what they think it's about. If you didn't want to read, don't comment. submitted by /u/freakyfishiesunite [link] [comments]

I’ve seen some people explain why they hate kpop so much and it’s always the same crap “i cant understand the lyrics” Like, ofc you cant! ITS IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE “they all look like girls/ they all look the same” NO THEY FRICKING DONT. if you actaully cared to look at their faces and see the differences, you wouldn’t think that. Stop being racist. Also, there are idols that aren’t asian, so you’re just being rude to them “the music sucks!” Okay, and? It just doesn’t suit your taste, saying it sucks is exaggerating “the guys wear make up, it looks gay/ they act gay”. Do i even need to explain this? EVERY CELEBRITY WEARS MAKE UP. And also, they do not “act gay”, they are just showing their affection toward each other, and stop being homophobic “they have no talent” THEY DO. why do you think kpop got so popular? They can rap, sing, and dance perfectly fine. In fact, they are amazing at it. They can dance perfectly synchronized too “the fans are unhinged” not all of them are tho? Stop judging the entirety of the fanbase based on a small part of the fandom. Everyone is different. People should rly stop hating on kpop for no apparent reason submitted by /u/Beautiful-Vast7545 [link] [comments]

Hello everyone! We are excited to take a trip back in time to revisit some K-Pop classics once again, continuing with this rate, the "Early Gen 3" Girl Groups Rate! (If you haven't already, make sure to join r/kpoprates to ensure that you stay updated on future rate-related posts!) Quick Links: Ballot submission: Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot // Ballot template (Google Docs ver.) // Ballot template (Pastebin) Playlists: Spotify // Youtube (Audio ver.) // Youtube (Lyrics ver.) // Youtube (MV ver.) Deadline: July 7th (Monday), 11:59 Pacific (Link to a timezone converter) How the songs were selected: We used the /r/kpop Top Ten Tuesdays results to grab the most adored songs from each of the artists on Reddit, and we also had a songlist feedback survey on /r/kpoprates to help decide the songlist! Now, without further ado, let's introduce the 55 songs (& 7 bonus songs) that were selected for this rate, ordered chronologically for each artist (artists were also ordered by debut date): . Spica: Russian Roulette You Don’t Love Me EXID: Every Night Up & Down Ah Yeah Hot Pink Night Rather Than Day DDD I Love You HelloVenus: Wiggle Wiggle I’m ill Mysterious Crayon Pop: Bar Bar Bar AOA: Miniskirt Short Hair Like a Cat Heart Attack Good Luck 10 Seconds Excuse Me FIESTAR: One More You’re Pitiful Ladies’ Code: Pretty Pretty Galaxy The Rain BESTie: Love Options Excuse me Mamamoo: Piano Man You’re the Best Décalcomanie Starry Night Egotistic Wind Flower Gogobebe HIP Laboum: Journey to Atlantis Hwi Hwi Lovelyz: Ah-Choo Destiny WoW! Now, We That Day Sonamoo: Friday Night GFriend: Me Gustas Tu Rough Navillera Fingertip Time For The Moon Night Apple Mago Brave Girls: Deepened Rollin’ We Ride Chi Mat Ba Ram After We Ride . Bonus Rate: The bonus rate is basically an extension of the main rate! There were several songs that received high praise during the songlist feedback survey that still were barely not able to make the main rate, so we have put them into the bonus rate here to give them a chance to be rated. . EXID - Lady HelloVenus - Venus Crayon Pop - FM Fiestar - Mirror Ladies’ Code - Bad Girl Laboum - Between Us GFriend - Labyrinth . The Bonus Rate is optional and you do not have to submit a score for every song in the bonus list if you do it: you can score none of them, all of them, or any number in between. You cannot give a 0 or 11 to any song in the bonus, as they are not part of the main rate. While it is optional, we hope you consider participating. Spotify playlist YouTube playlist (MV version) YouTube playlist (Audio version) YouTube playlist (Lyrics version) Rules: You must listen to and assign a score to EVERY song listed. If your ballot is missing any scores it will not be eligible and you'll be sent a message asking you to fill in the missing scores. Each song should be assigned a score between 1 to 10. Decimals up to one point are allowed but any further is a no-no – 6.9 is fine, but 6.99 is not. You can use ONE 0 and ONE 11 for the entirety of the rate, for your least favorite and most favorite song respectively - they are optional but HIGHLY encouraged if you feel some type of way about any given song! Comments are also encouraged but not required for such scores (except if you give a song a 0). Comments are encouraged and much appreciated (but not required, except for if you give a 0) and can be added to any song by simply typing after the numerical score, like so: Hip: 2.4 Ofc the title track that utilizes Mamamoo's vocal power the least ends up becoming the most popular (yells angrily at cloud) This is the ONLY correct way to format a comment. Please do not include colons (ex. 9: I stan!), dashes (ex. 3.3 - This song sucks), or any other symbol after your score/before your comment as it breaks the program. You can also give comments for individual artists! Just write your comment after the :, such as the following: EXID: Are they pronounced like "exit" or are you supposed to say every letter separately? I'll never know For this rate and most future rates, we have a ballot average minimum of 4.00. In addition, if your ballot average is between 4.00-5.50, you must leave comments on your lower scores (which we define as any score that's a 3 or lower). {Do not worry about having to calculate your ballot average, once you submit your ballot, we will tell you if you need to make changes to your ballot for it to be accepted.} SUBMITTING A BALLOT: * Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot As Reddit is (unfortunately) moving away from the private messaging system in favor of utilizing the Reddit chat system, we are forced to also adopt the Reddit chat system for messaging. You can make a copy of either the Google Docs or Pastebin ballot templates below, add your scores on your local copy/file, and send the link to your local copy/file in your Reddit Chat message to u/KpopRates_Ghost. * Google Docs ballot template * Pastebin ballot template Google spreadsheet template that you can use to calculate averages, record scores, and make predictions Alternatively, if you have Discord, you can message the link to your ballot to both the rate hosts, @Zypker124 and @aidshha. You can also submit the top/bottom 5 prediction form at any time. DUE DATE: Monday, July 7th, by 11:59 PM Pacific - This will be the FINAL deadline, no extensions will be given this time! (Here is a link to a time zone converter for the deadline.) REVEAL DATES (Reveals will take place on /r/kpoprates as well as the KpopRates Discord: https://discord.gg/4YY2ksBbT6) Day 1 - July 12th (Saturday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) Day 2 - July 13th (Sunday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) submitted by /u/kpoprates_ghost [link] [comments]

This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

In this post I have assembled every K-pop boy group survival show by and generation with some basic analysis around the success of shows outside the Big4 and Mnet mainline series 2012 (0) 2013 (1) WIN : Who Is Next (WINNER) 2014 (2) MIX & MATCH (iKON) NO.MERCY (MONSTA X) 2015 (1) Pentagon Maker (Pentagon) 2016 (1) BOYS24 (SKYE) 2017 (3) Produce 101 Season 2 (Wanna One) Stray Kids (Stray Kids) The Unit (Male) (UNB) 2018 (2) Under Nineteen (1THE9) YG: Treasure Box (TREASURE) 2019 (2) Produce X101 (X1) World Class (TO1) 2020 (2) G-EGG (NIK) I-land (Enhypen) 2021 (2) Loud (KickFlip and TNX) Wild Idol (TAN) 2022 (3(1*)) *(&Audition - the Howling (&Team)) Dream Maker (New:id) The ORIGIN - A, B, or What?(ATBO) Stars Awakening / Youth Star (N.SSign) 2023 (5) Boys Planet (ZEROBASEONE) Fan Pick (PICKUS) Fantasy Boys (Fantasy Boys) NCT universe: LASTART (NCT Wish) Nizi Project season 2 (NEXZ) 2024 (6) Build Up: Vocal Boy Group - -Survivor (B.D.U) MAKE MATE 1 (NouerA) Project 7 (CLOSE YOUR EYES) SCOOL (SEVEN TO EIGHT) Starlight Boys (POLARIX) Universe League (AHOF) 2025 (3(1)) Debut’s Plan (IDID) B:MY BOYZ (YUHZ)* Boys II Planet (ALD1)** *(Oen-High (aoen)) yet to make Korean debut * yet to debut 3rd Gen total shows: 8 Average number of shows per year: 1.3 4th Gen total shows: 12 Average number of shows per year: 2.4 5th Gen total shows: 15 Average number of shows per year: 5 Excluding big 4 and Mnet Mainline 3rd Gen (4) 4th Gen (7) 5th Gen (11) Successful groups only (+100k sales in last comeback or debut) (excluding big4 + Mnet Mainline) 3rd Gen (2) 4th Gen (0) 5th Gen (5) By fan vote (and previous exceptions) 3rd Gen (0) 4th Gen (0) 5th Gen (2(+2*)) *Debut Plan and Makemate1 had a mix of fan and judge voting If we consider when the group debuted and as part of what gen we have some shifts 2 from 3rd to 4th Gen (Stray Kids (2018) and UNB (2018)) 3 from 4th to 5th Gen (KickFlip (2025), NEW:ID (2023) and N.SSign (2023)) This makes the numbers 3rd Gen 6 4th Gen 11 5th Gen 18 The average survival show group debut per year 3rd Gen 1.0 4th Gen 2.2 5th Gen 6 (Assumption YUHZ and ALD1 will debut in 5th Gen (both set to debut early 2026)) Making the final distribution of Successful groups (100k+ sales at last comeback/debut) by debut date Chosen by fan vote (Non Big4 and Mnet Mainline) 3rd Gen (0) (including judge pick shows 2) 4th Gen (0) 5th Gen (3(+2*)) *Debut Plan and Makemate1 had a mix of fan and judge voting If I missed something or made a mistake do say. I hope you find it interesting. submitted by /u/ARG_obesessed [link] [comments]

So... I'm seeing some similarities in the way both groups blew up/are. Katseye is right now in the middle of blowing up. Y'all think Katseye will be as big as BP at their peak? submitted by /u/HailzButtercup [link] [comments]

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He gets overlooked so much . He loves gg dances , to him it's more than a gag , it's a skill he is proud of . He is a huge perfectionist as well . submitted by /u/GrabMore8308 [link] [comments]

I see lots of posts accusing people of being Hybe stans or antis or whatever. Who are these actual people who are solely committed to a single company? Do they actually exist? The groups I listen to are IVE, Blackpink, Itzy, Le Sserafim, and aespa. They are all from different companies. I would expect others to be more like be, but there's a ton of discourse acting as if that isn't the case. submitted by /u/SpecSlayerSC [link] [comments]

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In 2023, I met Kang, the CEO of a small Korean company. He praised my potential but made it clear that I needed to improve my skills. He asked me to improve my Korean and gave me almost a year to prepare. We set a date: November 6, 2024. During this time, I had an inspiration: I created the group "SWG." The project took four months of intense work to complete. I presented the idea to Kang, and he liked it and said he would support the project. In the meantime, I was selected for another audition in Korea. They asked me to come to Korea on a specific date and month and said they would arrange a place for me to stay and participate in the competition. I said I couldn't go because I didn't have the money at the time, so they simply ignored me. I wanted to be loyal to Kang's small company, as I had promised, so after a while, I started ignoring another company that had contacted me. I still needed to finalize and structure the marketing strategies for the project and the necessary investment specifications for the group, something that could take approximately six months and include around 1,000 slides and other documents. Meanwhile, while preparing the marketing strategies for the group, Kang began to ignore me for an as-yet-unknown reason. I became discouraged. I became so discouraged that I stopped working on the marketing strategies and realized that perhaps I shouldn't have ignored other companies that wanted me. I simply wanted to give up on everything; it's very difficult to work without some kind of financial or business support. I was working so hard on the project that I simply ignored the people around me, including my family. During this period, I ended up having a burnout that made me lose the desire to do everything I loved, including music. I simply lost the desire to be an artist. So I wanted to give up, but while on YouTube, I came across "Agust D," the artist who sparked these dreams in me when I was 13. Hearing the song "Snooze," I finally felt the support I needed, and so I wrote a response song on June 6, 2024, called "Rosa Azul." During this time, I started thinking about the negative aspects of being an artist, such as being yelled at, exaggerated compliments, unrequited love, lack of privacy, mental exhaustion, and lack of time to focus on myself. I also learned during this period that sometimes we get so focused on our dreams that we forget to improve ourselves as human beings. The years pass so quickly, and over time we realize that we may never feel the same way again. My feelings that I had over many years simply faded. Emotions change, experiences transform us, and what was once intense can become just memories. Because people change all the time, and so do their thoughts, feelings, and opinions. Each person lives in their own world. While you see one reality or a phase of life, someone else may experience something completely different. This requires patience and empathy. We shouldn't expect everyone to think like us. It's important not to fixate on a single thing for too long. Our minds have the power to create unrealistic scenarios and possibilities that don't exist. This can generate unnecessary anxiety and frustration. The world we live in is built by our actions. There's no set destiny, only choices. Therefore, we shouldn't expect something to be prepared for us. Just go after what you want, and if something doesn't happen as expected, we must accept that there are many things we can avoid, but others that simply cannot be changed. In these cases, acceptance is the only possible path. After all, one day we will all die, and that is part of human existence. What we do between the beginning and the end is what truly matters. I'm currently taking care of my mental health. The burnout I suffered was very severe, and I had to be hospitalized and take heavy medication. And it was in this darkness that songs like Snooze made me find a reason to live again. My only dream is to meet Agust D. submitted by /u/snow20300612 [link] [comments]

Interested in old, both niche and popular kpop eurodance and trance hits mostly from the late 90s and early 00s? Give me a number between 1-121 and I'll give you a song from my euro k-pop playlist! submitted by /u/helios0l [link] [comments]

Who is your idol Mount Rushmore for Japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, Australia, and USA? Gender does not matter as long as the idol is from that country. (You can include Korea and other countries if you want; you can also add honorable mentions) submitted by /u/Busy_Scene_5351 [link] [comments]