Hannah Bahng defending Leo still doesn’t sit right with me
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Tempest had a huge buzz around their pre-debut and debut. A lot of K-pop fans were excited for them because their lineup included popular trainees from survival shows like Hanbin from I-LAND, Ahn Hyeongseop and Lee Euiwoong from Produce 101 Season 2, and Song Jaewon from Under Nineteen. They were doing so well. They released great music, won multiple rookie and music show awards, and their first-week album sales even hit 133,000—a fantastic number for a group under a mid-tier company. But lately, it feels like they're starting to fade into the background. Their company is terrible at promotions, and the way they handled the whole Hwarang situation definitely didn't help. As a huge fan, it's frustrating and makes me anxious about their future. It's such a waste because they keep releasing amazing music that I wish more people would listen to. submitted by /u/euriydyce [link] [comments]
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Every time a group that I like has one of their members put out solo work there’s so many complaints about their numbers and engagement being less than that other others members on their solo work. There seems to be this expectation that every fan needs to give equal amount of attention, streams, and sales to each member. I think that’s unfair. Biases exist for a reason. People will have a member they prefer so they inherently will give them more attention. I don’t know why that’s seen as an attack on the other members. Also it’s pretty crazy to expect fans to like all of the solo music of each member. The group I stan has a lot of solo music and they basically all have different genres that they specialize in. There’s some genres people just don’t like as much as others. I personally don’t like ballads at all. If a member makes music that is mostly ballads I’m not going to force myself to listen to it or pretend that I enjoy it. I think it’s possible to love the members and think they’re talented but just not click with their solo work. You can also show love and support without giving constant engagement or streaming. I wish group stans understood that it’s just the reality of groups that there is a ranking of popularity. Some members are going to be at the bottom. It’s unavoidable but stans can’t accept that fact and take it a lot more personally than it warrants. They also fail to take into account that some members are popular outside of the fandom. There’s a lot of casual listeners or solo fans who really help boost the numbers and engagement on some members. Those people aren’t tuning into every members music at all. submitted by /u/Thicccysmallz [link] [comments]
I recently began to be interested in this group enhypen, the members seemed very cute and talented to me and I wanted to investigate more about all of them, to see if I could follow them, in a more active way, but the more I investigate about them, it seems that their fandom (engene), has some kind of problem with Ni-ki, they always make fun of him, they created a whole personality for which, before entering and looking for more about them, I had believed it, but then I realized that he was a very sweet boy and that He cares a lot about his fans. It's a shame that they seem to hate him to the point that they act like he's not part of the group.. It's a doubt that I have, maybe I fell on the wrong side of tiktok and submitted by /u/valentina354 [link] [comments]
Any 2025 comeback you were very excited about but the result dissapoined you? It can be concept pics, MV, title track,bsides, just anything you were looking forward and it dissapoined you at end? Just add this is no hate toward any groups ajd just for educational purposes, one comeback not ruin whole groups discography! submitted by /u/Wonkislay [link] [comments]
Sometimes, I just want to hear something that will get my brain thinking. But these are what I get when I see Instagram reels that say give me unpopular opinions: Blackpink don't want to be together as a group anymore. (Most popular unpopular opinion #2.) Don't debut minors. (Because I asked fans for the opinions and not the industry, so how is this unpopular?) Normalise dating. (Most popular unpopular opinion #1.) Don't normalise the perfectly thin body and stop calling idols fat when their belly is a cm out from being flat. (Nobody thinks idols are born with the ability to have concave bellies.) Cha Eunwoo is not even that handsome. (Do you guys have some beef with him? We got it, the people who find Cha Eunwoo bland. Don't need to put it in every post since 2021.) Singing live should be the norm. (This topic has sparked debates, but it's done and dusted. Everyone has different opinions, and it's not unpopular anymore.) Stray Kids and NCT127 noise music is actually good. (Yeah, no kidding, these are some actual, real big names, so ofc a lot of people like their music and some don't.) BTS was better before their English trilogy. (How many times will you give this? It has gone down since they are not properly active for a long time, but has not died. Okay, I get it. You like Mic Drop better because that feels authentic BTS, and they have not made that tier song again, blah blah blah.) BTS did/didn't pave the way. (A very old topic. Doesn't offer new perspectives anymore. Wanna hear more like Saja Boys didn't pave the way for demon idols which brings me to) Huntrix and Saja Boys can/can't be on the K-pop charts. (The movie name was Kpop Demon Hunters. You would get what market they were targeting with that.) Ships aren't real; it's fan service. (With people commenting ships they believe are real. I am done. If you care so much about reality, drop kpop.) And the last one I have for now but certainly popular - I can't stand aegyo. (Sometimes, the ones doing it can't stand it either. A good trick I do whenever I can sense something coming that I don't want to see is cover the screen with my hand and especially for aegyo, you would also have to silence the video and best hope they don't replay it 100x. However, I can stand aegyo and my favourite group is ZB1.) submitted by /u/Excellent-Services [link] [comments]
Outside of royalties, which is like the most obvious one, what are some other things you would consider to be great long-term passive income sources for idols? Something that requires zero effort and is easy to maintain, regardless of how inactive an idol is, but still results in generally high profit. submitted by /u/oddv8gue [link] [comments]
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This is a question just to have fun, nothing serious about this.... I don't follow a lot of idols but I personally enjoy Namjoon's instagram. I love it when he posts his outings to museums, galleries, cafes, and his personal style gives him a plus.... I find it very peaceful I also like Super Junior's Yesung, Txt's Beomgyu and Soobin, and Seventeen's Joshua What do you like to see your fave idols posting and which ones are your favorite? submitted by /u/No-Function-7261 [link] [comments]
So after Grid Ent. announced Leo (ex-Trainee A) signed with them, and suddenly people online started celebrating like we all forgot why he left the industry in the first place. Let’s get the facts straight: Leo didn’t step back because of “industry mistreatment.” He left because people were horrified by his own lyrics. He wrote and uploaded a rap about strangling a woman who wanted his money. This wasn’t edgy teenage rebellion - he was 19, a legal adult, and he chose to share it proudly. these were his lyrics btw: ain't nobody gon tell me why that b***h stopped breathing f*** that h** in my bank, yeah that sh** stopped breathing tell that b***h, took that b***h to the store ain't nobody gon tell me why that b***h stopped breathing ain't nobody gon tell me why that b***h stopped breathing f*** that h** in my bank, yeah that sh** stopped breathing There were more I think but I can't find them Now, here’s where it gets frustrating. Hannah Bahng publicly defended him on X: “i would never be friends with a misogynist. … i had an in depth convo with him abt this when we first interacted and if you knew the whole story you would see him in the same light i see him.” This was manipulative for a few reasons: “Don’t judge based on what you hear online” – girl, we didn’t hear rumors. We heard the actual lyrics from his mouth. This wasn’t gossip, it was evidence. “If you knew the whole story…” – what “story” could possibly make fantasizing about choking a woman okay? That framing made fans feel like they were being irrational when in reality, we weren’t misunderstanding anything. Saying “I’d never be friends with a misogynist” while defending a guy who literally put misogyny into his art doesn’t add up. Of course Leo isn’t going to act misogynistic in a one-on-one chat with her — that’s not how misogyny presents itself. Here’s the thing like people can change. If Leo truly had grown, then the right move would’ve been to acknowledge his mistake, admit the lyrics were violent and harmful, and show accountability. But instead, his defenders acted like nothing happened and painted critics as “judgmental.” That isn’t growth that’s just erasure. Its bizarre seeing how much hate Chan gets over the smallest, most baseless controversies, while Hannah went out of her way to excuse Leo’s misogynistic lyrics and shift blame onto the fans for “not knowing him." and people were then piling on Chan for something he had nothing to do with? Ofcourse the day he publicly supports Leo I'm out of the fandom but rn he hasn't and there's no reason to hate him. Saying “he was just 19” also doesn’t fly. 19 is an adult. Being upset or angry doesn’t make it normal to fantasize about killing women. Writing and posting those lyrics revealed the person he was at the time, and pretending it was just a “misunderstanding” is insulting to everyone who took issue with it. At the end of the day, good looks and second chances shouldn’t erase the fact that Leo put out a track bragging about killing women. That was the issue then, and it still is now. And Hannah’s attempt to gaslight fans into thinking they were overreacting only made the whole thing worse. And I keep seeing sudden love for this guy who literally fantasized about choking women, all because he was "in a bad mood" (?? wtf) like be fr are the people who voted for him 12? submitted by /u/Any_Contribution8287 [link] [comments]
I can't get over how weird it is that these videos seem to be such a popular phenomenon right now. We all sometimes have that 'sense' that something is up, and yes that sometimes applies to certain idols. But announcing to the world that a certain idol gives you creep vibes (yes that seems to be a common word thrown around in the comments) without any indication of this being true is WEIRD. Like straight up weird and disgusting. Most of the time the idols being named haven't done anything significant and are just being named because they're the current topic of conversation or the certain person commenting that has a weird vendetta against them. Again, having those thoughts can happen, but you don't need to announce them to the world. More than anything I despise the people that post these videos because you know damn well you're only inviting hate in the comments. Like spare me the 'this post isn't meant to hate on idols' shit, that's literally the only thing you're getting by making a post like that. submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]
Well, my songs would consist mostly from Bts, Blackpink, le Sserafim, babymonster or some twice ones too. Give me some colours.. even if u repeat the colours I will give u a new song associated with it. Keep sharing haha!! Waiting for your colours. submitted by /u/princess_bella- [link] [comments]
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There is an ongoing trend with sea fans majority indonesian fans that use ai to create intimate pics with idols. Yesterday, Cortis fans have called out some fans doing this edit towards Keonho who is a minor, as well as Ian of h2h. And now, some crazy fans follow suit and is making this a trend. This is why AI should never be a thing coz imagine the weird things people do to feed their fantasies... submitted by /u/behindsomewalls [link] [comments]
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So I decided to go ahead & make a YT channel to post Kpop playlists, I find that rlly fun & I have a TON already planned bc I was overflowing with ideas for so long!😍 One of those ideas was making compilation playlists for Kpop groups! I already started planning some, those being my top favorite groups, as youd expect, but I would like to know what groups yall would like to see! 🩷 Done/being done: Ive Twice Illit Itzy Lesserafim Red velvet StayC TXT Gfriend Babymonster Rules: any artist is welcome, solo or group, as long as theyre Kpop! Solo/unit projects are excluded, except if they are appart of a group album/ep; Japanese or English releases wont be includes & will have a seperate playlist! 🩵 submitted by /u/d33pblushxy [link] [comments]
It's kind of hard to change label you debuted in unless your white (Taylor Swift, Post Malone). Kpop used as genre rather than an industry to much. It's typically kpop group rather than kpop pop rock or kpop hip hop. But the groups are rather fluid in genre and concepts so I understand why kpop mostly used in addition to powerful label since 1st Hallyu Wave. It seems very weird to complain about western shows grouping kpop idols but kpop awards shows or news group all kpop idols the same. Most categories are broad see “Best K-pop Album” or “Best Male Group” with only occasional side awards like “Best Dance Performance” or “Best Hip-Hop Performance.” That reinforces “K-pop” as a single block. Afrobeats faced a similar issue: the VMAs gave South African singer Tyla two Afrobeats awards, sparking debate about who defines the genre. And it doesnt help that fans still discuss them in these very public kpop spaces. For example if Rose isnt kpop. Rose shouldn't be in any Twitter posts, campaign, etc related to any other kpop artists. Compare her to Taylor Swift. Same with BTS, Katseye or Blackpink. If they are no longer kpop fans dont want them to be considered such then stop going to Twitter and comapring them to other kpop idols and groups. These labels, journalists, and other fans keep seeing them discussed on Twitter, reddit etc along with other Kpop idols but when it comes to Western media doing the same your confused. Talk about them in hip hop, pop, or r&b spaces and those spaces only. But many of the fans I feel like have kpop as only safe space and mostly because they want to put themselves above kpop idols so continue to do comparision with othe kpop idols rather than western ones like Taylor Swift. submitted by /u/kdramaddict15 [link] [comments]
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