I think kpop stans need to stop thinking calling kpop groups industry plant is being rational
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I am really curious if anyone else has found this strange. Most of the major kpop companies wait around 3-5 years between debuting groups of the same gender in the same market For example, I’m thinking of the gaps between JYP debuting GOT7 (2014), Stray Kids (2018), and Kickflip (2025), and in terms of Korean girl groups Twice (2015), Itzy (2019) and Nmixx (2022) — I’m considering their bands and Japanese groups as intended for different markets. I am using JYP as an example but this seems to be the prevailing pattern. I had been a little tuned out of Kpop for a while so coming back and seeing that HYBE has been pretty much debuting a boy group a year beginning with Tomorrow X Together (2019), Enhypen (2020), Boynextdoor (2023), TWS (2024), Cortis (2025), all while BTS and Seventeen still have huge fanbases. I understand that HYBE now owns many labels and not all of these groups are under the same label but they are still competing for the same fans in the kpop market to an extend. They also debuted three girl groups in quick succession, Le sserafim (2022), New Jeans (2022) and Illit (2024) and the comparisons of their concepts/treatment both from staff within the company and by fans externally has contributed to a lot of controversy. One might think that HYBE would learn their lesson and spread out their debuts to avoid groups cannibalizing each others audience and fan wars/comparison, but it seems like they’re keeping up the pace. Hearing that they are debuting a new girl group for the western market in 2026, after Katseye is finally hitting their stride, made me really question this. There just isn’t a huge western audience for girl groups yet so I don’t understand how they expect both groups to be able to develop unique identities and succeed so quickly. I genuinely would like to know if anyone has any theories about why HYBE is doing this. Are they just that successful? Is this strategy working for them overall? Why don’t other kpop companies use it then? The only theory I have is that HYBE might be trying to monopolize the market. They’ve have so much money that they can just keep debuting groups, and eventually one of them will stick and become super successful, even if not all of them do. submitted by /u/alonelydimple [link] [comments]
Variety has this youtube series where they invite 2 actors who are a pretty unexpected pairing to chat with each other in an unscripted environment. I was thinking if kpop had that format which 2 unexpected idols would you put together to just have a conversation with one another regarding music or their careers? I would probably pick Yoongi and Sakura. Even when suchwita aired I really wanted le sserafim to guest on the show cause I think for some reason the two of them would have a lot to talk about. Given sakura's extensive career in the industry and yoongi's passion for music as well as both of them being pretty transparent individuals especially when it comes to all the hatred theyve faced, I genuinely think they would have a pretty great conversation. submitted by /u/PrimaryTomato3310 [link] [comments]
cuz r/kpop removed this for being a “shitpost” even though it was a serious question… Does anyone else remember the “i see you… OPPA!!!” purge horns blaring meme?? Im specifically looking for the old video where theres a girl with a blindfold over her eyes sitting in a room and she screams oppa and it cuts to BTS running on a field please help the video was so hilarious and i cannot find it anywhere 😭 submitted by /u/Friendly_Chart_9030 [link] [comments]
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Honorable mentions go out to Woo!Ah!, Dreamnote, CSR, and basically any (other) nugu group. Disclaimer: This chart does not reflect my opinion but rather that of those who voted. Feel free to let me know of any objections you have of the chart. Since I find the chart to be dominated by female artists, I am planning on making 2 more versions of this chart, with each one being split by gender (spoiler alert: KARD will be in both charts). The final table: Row 1: BTS, Loona, Dreamcatcher Row 2: IVE, STAYC, KARD Row 3: IU, Oh My Girl, The KingDom submitted by /u/VigilMuck [link] [comments]
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Photocards don’t even guarantee you’ll get your bias, and the actual list of cards is usually private. I still can’t believe we have to dig through X posts or Pinterest boards just to figure out what versions exist. For something that people are willing to spend money on and collect, the information is surprisingly scattered and unfriendly. I get that the randomness adds some fun, but it feels kind of backwards that the more seriously you want to collect, the more detective work you have to do. Just for fun, I tried making a template where you can see all ATEEZ photocards in one place — versions, member cards, everything at a glance. Would something like this actually be useful for collectors? Or do most people prefer their own systems like spreadsheets or folders? Curious to hear your thoughts! submitted by /u/kpop_bunjang [link] [comments]
Super Junior fans know just how insane Kim Heechul’s stage presence is. Even non-fans witnessed it during the past two SMTOWN concerts—he always drew some of the loudest cheers. Now, imagine the sheer joy of seeing him back on stage: Beautiful Idol Kim Heechul has officially returned for Super Junior’s 20th Anniversary Tour, marking the end of a 10-year hiatus from full, live concert performances. And he did not disappoint. The idol with the distinctive flair and stage charisma is back! He came back strong—and made the stage even more exciting, seductive, and unapologetically fun—in true Kim Heechul style. (We almost can't believe/forgot he's also the Variety blue chip, Kim Heechul!) Welcome back, Space Big Star. The stage missed you—and so did we. 💙🔥 submitted by /u/arcieghi [link] [comments]
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Like I think some kpop stans forgot that industry plant is artist who came out of nowhere and got massive success from connections and pretending to be indie. I saw people used that for cortis, and I disagree because cortis have never said they are indie group. They came to bighit due to bts and they started working on others' work during their trainee days just like other bighit artists do: be other groups' background dancers, write other groups' songs, etc. And people were already hype about the group since there's news about a new bighit boy group debuting so it makes sense why people rushed to listen to them. And no, it's not rational to call any kpop group that because it is used to downplay any artists. Just because people called their music and aesthetic refreshing, them doing their own production, and they debuted under a company you don't like, it's not being industry plant. submitted by /u/Routine_Example5803 [link] [comments]
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So I was just tapping through my insta stories, everything is normal, until all the sudden I see...pomni? jax? I look up at the username IT'S TAEYONG?? HELLO? IS THIS A CRY FOR HELP??? I'm sure he got hacked or something, but it's still so crazy to me that someone put in all this effort to get into his account just to promote their fucking digital circus edits 😭😭. submitted by /u/emilyisawaytoo [link] [comments]
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"Leeseo shouldn't have been in the group", "IVE don't need her", "She doesn't do or add anything to the group" These are all statements I have heard a million times. The thing is, despite disagreeing, I don't actually have much of a problem with these statements. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,and as long as you are not being hateful, you should be able to voice any opinion you have. The problem I have is that these same people who say these stuff, don't give her credit when she actually does some great work. Take the Attitude MV for example, Starship Entertainment tried some really creative things with Leeseo and despite not having too much time to work with, she put her all into the character she was portraying in the MV and she was one of the bright spots of that MV and era. She added so much more personality to her dancing and performances as well. I saw almost nothing about her from these same people. Some even go quiet which is quite telling. Then, we have IVE's most recent comeback, XOXZ. Leeseo absolutely shined in this MV so much. Whenever she was on screen, it was hard to look anywhere else. She crushed it. Yet again, dead silence. I then listened to the album and Leeseo had undeniable major singing improvements. Nothing. You don't have to praise Leeseo, but don't go out of your way to hate on her and then don't acknowledge when she actually improves. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]
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