ILLIT deserves the biggest apology.
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This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]
Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]
As I said. Yes, many kpop stans have parasocial illness. (I just made this up idk if it's a real word) First off I just wanna say I've been in a lot of fandoms all over the world. Before you start saying "this isn't only an issue in K-pop!" Yes it's not only in K-pop, but it's A LOT MORE common in K-pop than other fandoms. I'm just genuinely curious. Do people not care about music anymore? Genuinely, why is everyone so curious about idols and their lives? It's crazy how much that matters to K-pop stans it's almost like they wanna date them. Turns out they probably do. Like honestly if you look at Beyoncé. Her life is so private to the point that she doesn't even do interviews anymore, it's probably been more than 10 years since her last one. She drops a music video drops an album and goes to tour. submitted by /u/StonDelRey [link] [comments]
Wtf is kpop even about now. Why would you do that to someone just because you dont like a kpop group. Stan culture is getting crazy nowadays. 😭. Apparently TXT were in USA for a tour and that gave that person a chance to report Soobin as an "Illegal immigrant" submitted by /u/eyesonaeri [link] [comments]
The girls have never had a criticised performance before and as a person who's had the priviledge of going to many girl group tours, Itzy's Born To Be tour was, by far, the best. Their energy, chemistry, fanservice was off the charts. And the production!!! The live band, the stage set up, the props were just... Amazing. The girls danced like crazy, it was mesmirising seeing them in real life 😭😭😭 They also all made sure to speak a bit of the language of the countries they were in, and their english was amazing. The solo stages were gorgeous, too (although they didn't perform all of the solo songs live), and they somehow made the stage feel full even at times when there were no backup dancers there. Despite their success "wavering" for the past 3 years, they've kept up the energy they've had since rookies. And their personality on camera and in fanmeets, fansigns ect are just so, so lovely and funny. They are one of the big 3/4 groups that have the least amount of scandals and the "scandals" they do have are rarely anything serious. Their consistency is amazing and they never seem to slack off. I think this should be the bare minimum, but in reality, the industry's bare minimum is literally in hell. Just wanted to praise the girls since they've been at a lot of events recently and they're performing like they're fighting to debut lol Itzy ❤️❤️❤️ submitted by /u/Gold_Meaning3688 [link] [comments]
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recently It was fun to see a Chaebron type of nickname, can you give some of those? I also like the Hanniburton one😭 submitted by /u/Minjisaurus [link] [comments]
Hii, just wanted to recommend some songs to someone to listen to, and they mainly listen to laufey, beabadoobee and d4vd from what I remember. Any recommendations for songs to check out with similar vibes? Thanks! submitted by /u/TourNo9847 [link] [comments]
ILLIT deserves a big apology. They have false accusations and plagiarism claims of copying NewJeans, in terms of aesthetic, concept and actions, claims by Min Hee-jin, associated with NewJeans. They suffer bullying and harassment from fans because of those accusations, they are constantly facing harsh criticism and harassment from NewJeans fans or related fanbases, including being called out publicly, losing brand deals, etc. They are not well protected by their company. ILLIT’s agency (HYBE & Belift) has not adequately protected them from the backlash, or helped at least to clear their name. They are getting reputational damage and emotional harm. Because of the accusations and the public disputes, they are losing opportunities, suffering stress, and having their public image tarnished even before any formal resolution. This is NOT fair, since ILLIT didn't do any of the things they’re being blamed for. There’s no proof of wrongdoing or evidence that shows all of this is true, they are being treated as guilty by public opinion. There should be accountability, and obviously, an apology. This is also their agencies fault, they have the responsibility to manage claims, protect their artists, and clarify misinformation, and... they don’t. In resume... all this damage for no reason is real (emotional, reputational, commercial), an apology IS needed. ILLIT needs and deserves justice. submitted by /u/witchvamplady [link] [comments]
I hear a lot of the time that an idols main job is to be a singer, and that most of the time the idols can’t even do that but I disagree. Idols are more performers than anything, many can give you a ballad here and there but most of the draw, in my opinion, comes from the more dynamic choreographies as well as more animated stage presence on stage compared to say some western artists. I bring this up because while some idols have trained extensively to be able to sing great live while dancing, many idols as we have see. Have debuted with minimal training. I feel like idols aren’t being worked to the bone in a companies trainee life for 5-10 years anymore which is great for the idol, they can achieve their dreams at a more realistic rate but obviously their proficiency in some skills may not be as high if they were a trainee for say 6 months to 2 years. I think it’s perfectly acceptable to lip sync and adjust the amount based on the choreography. Like, for example, when izna performed Golden from kpop demon hunters at kcon LA, they performed an entirely original choreography that was kind of explosive to me: lots of jumping, highs and lows etc. And that paired with the level of difficulty that Golden as a song is in and of itself, in that situation I find it appropriate to lip sync to not degrade the performance aspect of the stage. And I think many idols encounter this often whether it is a cover or their own song. But when idols do things like this they’re met with so many negative comments and to me some fans don’t seem to live in reality because idols are not robots. Of course I agree that if the choreo is basic enough or they’re standing for a ballad, singing live with a backtrack is the bare minimum fans could ask for in a performance but I feel like regardless of the song or stage, if an idol is lip syncing, there’s going to be someone trying to crucify them but to me I think it’s reasonable to use at times, that’s why I’m feel like I’m missing something. Is lip syncing truly that great of an offense? submitted by /u/Prize-Square9817 [link] [comments]
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for me, maybe its minji? and yujin ig submitted by /u/Minjisaurus [link] [comments]
~ Name any main dancer idol that fits the category ~Allowed to use other main dancers if there are more than two main dancers in the group ~After 24 hours the voting will be closed and I will post the next category ~Today's category: Maknae (May 26 2006) ~ Vocalist: Seulgi ~ Dancer: Momo ~ Rapper: Ruka ~ Leader: Yeji ~ Center: Karina ~ Visual: Mina Ace: Kyujin ~ FOTG: Yuqi submitted by /u/Ok-Database9509 [link] [comments]
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I don't know if you guys understandmd my question, i hope y'all do though. But for me it's inception and now this house ain't a home by ateez, it's like so incredibly relatable like it's basically ME yk😭 submitted by /u/hearts4him_ [link] [comments]
Usually, Theqoo is mostly pro SM artists except when it comes to politics, etc, but today, 80% of the 900 comments are just negative, https://theqoo.net/hot/3911986428?page=4. It's either an overreaction or they really did mess it up. submitted by /u/Accomplished_Low2452 [link] [comments]
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the siren (kind of), pearly, ocean type of vibe submitted by /u/ContextTurbulent3054 [link] [comments]