Idols and the Church: Rewording my previous post.

It has come that time of the year where the biggest kpop award show is just around the corner, the MAMA awards. Of course like usual, it has already stirred up controversy regarding the criteria changes, some fandoms being upset their faves did ‘t get nominated, and most notably regarding the best new artist award. Recently mnet decided to combine both the best new female and male artist category into one, which ofc means that between 10 groups only one will be given the rookie of the year award. This caused huge controversy around the kpop space since many found it quiet unfair, and instantly started claiming that allday project was the reason behind this. Now we all know who allday project is by now, since they are a coed group they wouldn’t had for the criteria for any so due to their mass success mnet most likely decided to combine both. Ofc many were upset, claiming that it was obvious favoritism and that they clearly only did this so they can have a huge benefit over all the other groups(which csn be the case its mnet). While I do find it strange, I want to point out that this isn’t really the first time mnet has done this. Back in 2014 due to akmu’s huge sucess, they decided to combine it aswell yet winner still won best new artist that year. In mnet’s defense, they probably thought that due to allday project massive success they couldn’t just leave them out of the nominations, like it or not they were probably the most successful rookies in charts since 2022. Ofc I have my own thoughts and I don’t know mnet’s true intentions, and I understand why many fandoms are upset by this I am aswell. Now besides all that, here are the 10 nominees for best new artist: AHOF, Allday Project, Baby don’t cry, Close your eyes, Close your eyes, Cortis, Hearts2hearts, idid, izna, kickflip, and Kiikii. Out of all this groups, who do you think will be the winner? Plus what are your opinions regarding the criteria change for best new artist? Please try to be the least biased you can, I know some of you might not like the nominees(allday project, which same). submitted by /u/DinnerSolid6462 [link] [comments]

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Proud to announce that Ive's V2 Lightstick will now officially be a new member in the Prettiest Lightstick lineup alongside Illit, Artms, Loona, Dreamcatcher, Ateez and other honorable mentions! So happy they have finally left the Round Lightstick with Name Placard lineup. What do you think about their new lightstick? I think its the perfect upgrade. submitted by /u/Nynasa [link] [comments]

People are not mad because idols partied. People are not mad because idols barely donated anything. People are not mad because the idols got drunk. People are mad because almost none of them said anything about breast cancer awareness. Showing up to the event does help the cause, but the least you could do if you are attending a fancy event with dinner and everything is shoutout the thing the event is for. This is not an excuse to hate on these idols though. Also, some idols actually did say stuff about breast cancer awareness. People are overreacting on both sides. These idols messed up, it happens. None of them are bad people. It was just kinda a dumb mistake. Thats all submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

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Over the past couple of days, I’ve seen people’s reactions to Twice’s negatively received Victoria Secret performance, and in their defense, some say, “Well, they’re not a vocal group; they’re known more for their performance and dance.” However, is that something the idols say themselves; I see the same thing happen with Itzy too. I just couldn’t imagine putting my heart and soul into producing good-quality music, only for my fans to defend my possibly weak vocals by saying, “Well, they’re not known for their singing.” I think the opposite can exist too, for example Aespa. They often struggle with their stage performances, and their fans might say, “Well, they’re known more for their singing.” But what if the members themselves believe they’re a performance-based group instead? submitted by /u/Flounder-Cute [link] [comments]

Fans have been asking for acapella music from them for the longest time, and squ4d finally delivered! What did you all think of this version? Source submitted by /u/rnbgal [link] [comments]

With the current tds4 tour of nct dream, in every performance or jeno fancam of no diggity, the fans scream s get extra loud during the part where they hip thrust to the beat three times because it's an attractive dance move. I'm not complaining. But let's be real, fans scream at these moves because it focuses on the idol's crotches. I wouldn't say I'm anti-hip thrust in bg choreo but examples like these point towards the inclusion of these moves is due to fanservice. Is it a reach to assume that these dances moves are an example of the objectification of male idols or is it to move along with the beat? I feel that this phenomenon has increased in the past 4 years idk how the past gen choreos differed. Actually, I know one. A horrific example is when 17 year old Yugyeom and Bambam performed with 20 year old Jackson on a stage in Thailand where they body rolled and hip thrusted, and unbuttoned their shirts completely. I just thought of another clear example of the objectification of teen male idols. In 2023, 2 days AFTER Hunter of Xikers turned 18, he and Junmin(aged 20 then) performed a dance cover of Die for you by The Weeknd in Japan. The "killing part" of the dance was when they showed their abs as they body rolled. In some performances, Hunter even bites the end of his shirt. Now, idk if he is told to that or not, but if he is, that's disturbing. The performance is clearly presented as sexy and hot. I find it convenient that both of these companies had the teen idols with their adult members. I don't care if these groups' fans are mostly teen-aged or even hypothetically that everyone in the audience was a teenager. None of the teen idols should have participated in these stages. Companies normalize the sexualization of teen/freshly adult male idols to their adult fans. I'm all for male idols expressing their sexuality. Kai's tour this year is a good example of that. But, teen idols need to be protected more. submitted by /u/adrianchavezisaorbit [link] [comments]

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Obviously mainly because they have barely any time (and most likely energy) to practise a religion at a very religious level. But also for other reasons. Mainly, a lot of parts about being an idol are kind of against the wishes and teachings of the super religious Churches in Korea. Idols do a lot of things that are frowned upon by the ultra religious. Being ultra religious and an idol at the same time don't really mesh well. Obviously, some people are really religious just in their heart and head and dont actually do much to practise it but with some idols, something is definitely up. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

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Recently I have seen so much people saying kpop is not creative. I even saw someone unironically say mainstream western pop is more creative than Kpop... and they got upvoted. Kpop is one trillion percent a creative industry and that is one of the best things about it. Creativity is a defining trait of Kpop. Even the most corporate soulless kpop out there today I find to have some creativity. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

i really don't mean this to be hateful towards any groups bc i fuck up at my job too sometimes. i'm just curious to see some of examples of when a group that is typically someone's taste, does something that's not their taste. please share a single/title track from your favorite group that you didnt like! submitted by /u/Relevant_Loan2278 [link] [comments]

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