It doesn't matter if you are a "pre-debut"stan or a "there before they were popular" stan

Most idols, imo, make some progress after their debut. It's only natural - even if their skills don't technically improve, gaining confidence, learning what does and does not work for them alone is enough to make a difference. But I'm kinda curious - who do you think had the most impressive growth when comparing their rookie days vs. peak / now? Idols whose "glow-up" honestly had you amazed with just how much they've developed as a performer / artist throughout their career? submitted by /u/OkCauliflower7443 [link] [comments]

Simply put, people tend to paint the whole industry with the same brush while glazing an industry with similar issues that they remain unaware of because they have limited music knowledge/history and speak on a surface level. For Korea, idols represent the entire music industry while for Japan and America, whatever niche said critic listens to represents that industry. I know a primary factor is because Korea is a smaller music market and its a huge export for tourism but I honestly don't think it's an excuse to be ignorant. The amount of times I've seen someone say and I quote "Koreans have no talent/originality because they are racist and stole every aspect of their music from black people/jpop" with no self awareness is astounding. This isn't to say that K-Pop was not inspired by black music or the Japanese idol system but there's a lot of nuance that is never discussed frankly due to racism and an individuals personal dislike of k-pop for various reasons. As a black woman, I think the most egregious to me is poising k-pop as the biggest or primary stealer of black culture as if the American and Japanese music industries are innocent of this. I could name numerous examples of theft/racism within both industries but the difference is those instances are written off as not being a reflection of the entire music industry while Korean artists and their work is always shoved under the transgressions of idols. It's the double edged sword of Idol culture being so popular. At the very least, I would like people to stop labeling their criticism under the "Koreans" label and start focusing on actually talking about the idol system and its positives and negatives. submitted by /u/External-Molasses-50 [link] [comments]

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https://preview.redd.it/9gwhrsnmhwvf1.jpg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6132a4084e419b5316a14529e1d14a2106cbcbf8 Here is my current month Top Artists list, can you guess who is missing? submitted by /u/mjlttown [link] [comments]

J has won Sagittarius! We are now moving onto Capricorn Rules: Please don’t comment the same idol more than once and upvote instead Female idols ONLY, no exceptions Has to be kpop, no kpop adjacent groups like katseye or xg 1 person per group to make it fair You have 24 hours to vote! Have fun Previous winners Aries: Irene - red velvet Taurus: jiu - dreamcatcher Gemini: dahyun - twice Cancer: Lia - itzy Leo: chaewon - le sserafim Virgo: wonyoung - ive Libra: lily - nmixx Scorpio: ningning - aespa Sagittarius: j - stayc submitted by /u/staycgurlss [link] [comments]

Just because I don't like some of the groups doesn't mean they are bad. It just means I don't like them. BG Stray Kids- 5 (Only group I stan) BTS- 5 TXT- 5 Enhypen- 5 XLOV- 5 Day6- 4 Big Bang- 4 EXO- 4 Astro- 4 Seventeen- 5 MonstaX- 2 Ateez- 4 Treasure- 4 Big Ocean- 5 Boynextdoor- 3 1verse- 5 ARrC- 5 Cortis- 5 P1harmony- 5 Shinee- 3 Got7- 3 GG Twice- 5 Blackpink- 3 Idle- 4 Red Velvet- 2 Everglow- 5 Illit- 3 Girls Generation- 3 Baby Monster- 2 Wonder Girls- 2 Itzy- 3 Aespa- 4 Ive- 4 Le Sserafim- 5 Fifty Fifty- 3 Katseye- 5 Gfriend- 3 Dreamcatcher- 3 If you have any more group suggestions, please write them in the comments. submitted by /u/Academic_Autistic [link] [comments]

The concert numbers seem too low for 4th gg with their popularity. For example, Twice held the first ever dome tour by kpop gg in Japan in 2019, and they further held concerts in even bigger stadium later. However, no other gg have held an dome tour since then, even groups popular in Japan like Ive and Lsf. Similarly, Blackpink held multiple stadium concerts in SEA with their popularity there, while aespa, being the most popular 4th gen gg in SEA, has not held a concert in stadium in SEA ever. If comparing the popularity of Twice in Japan and Blackpink in SEA is unfair, then take China and Taiwan as an example. Twice is not that popular in China due to the famous flag incident and they cannot promote in China and Taiwan for all these years. However, in their current tour, they can hold two full stadium concerts in Hong Kong, even though this is their first time in China in their whole careers. While i-dle and aespa, despite being super popular in China and Taiwan, are still having concerts in arenas there. So why are 4th ggs have such a low concert numbers relative to their popularity? submitted by /u/charlie19988 [link] [comments]

Rules: Nominate a female or male idol with the best costume. (Horror characters) It is recommended to comment with the photo for reference. Most upvotes win. Swipe for the male winner Results: Female winner: Hwasa (33 upvotes) 2nd place: Jeonyeon as Mad Hatter(28 upvotes) 3rd place: Dahyun as Genie (21 upvotes) Male winner: Lee Know and Jeongin (54 upvotes) 2nd place: WayV as Disney princesses(47 upvotes) 3rd place: Key as Marge Simpson (29 upvotes) Past winners Korean character = Dreamcatcher as Joseon era zombies and Epik High as Saja Boys Super hero = SuA as Hellboy and Chanyeol as Ironman Cross dress= Hwasa as a greaser rebel and Lee Know and Jeongin as hot ahjummas. submitted by /u/OptionSpare718 [link] [comments]

my ults are no way near nugu and tbh I do stan a lot of the popular groups but I do stan lesser known groups but ultimate nugu groups I maybe do not stan depends what’s considered ultimate nugu ? when it comes to being a esp for me a big groups fan its almost impossible to get noticed by your favs and if you wanna have the closest interaction possible to them you gotta pay a lot of money whether it’s things like buying loads of their albums to win a possible fancall or having vip 1 at concerts, theirs the fanwars, saesangs ect; nugu groups however you don’t get that stuff or very little of it if you do you get to see every milestone and watch them grow and be part of their journeys from the beginning, as their fandoms are much smaller they are able to notice their fans more remember their names, comments so forth and fan interactions feel personal like your genuinely appreciated not saying non nugu groups don’t make people feel like that and the fandom feels like family being a small group of people. Theirs no insane competition or stress.when it comes to photocards or ticket sales, you feel more seen as their aren’t millions of you as fans the connection is more real and deep and when they have some sort of success you feel it personally and the pride you feel is unmatched and if they end up more popular like omg I was here before the fame and now my favs are getting the more attention they deserve but when their nugu aswell you get to gatekeep them and their music and be in this little world with them and few other fans. submitted by /u/Desperate-Gur-6776 [link] [comments]

Hopping on the trend submitted by /u/rand0mbl0b [link] [comments]

Purely hypothetical. Would you pay, say €10, to see a kpop tribute concert that was about 45 minutes long and covered artists like Blackpink, Twice, Itzy, IVE, XG and Katseye? Yes I know Katseye and XG arent Kpop, but they are adjacent submitted by /u/CrimsonBlade2018 [link] [comments]

https://spotify.link/XIxkG0SlzXb There is both girl groups and boy groups submitted by /u/D1n0nara [link] [comments]

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That one release which made you re-think everything you thought about the grp. Maybe you started stanning them from that point/take a deeper interest in their music. submitted by /u/Zealousideal-Pop9123 [link] [comments]

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I've been seeing a lot of K-POP fans doing this here! (I only stan SKZ and NCT) submitted by /u/omyour_jungwoo [link] [comments]

https://spotify.link/U10fYzTizXb My playlist has dozens of groups (both boys and girls) submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]