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Just happy/rant with smaller nom big 4 groups making it big

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In honor of P1Harmony hitting the Billboard 200 Top 10, I just wanted to give a shoutout to the non-Big 4 groups who’ve made it this far. From what I read, only Ateez, P1Harmony, and Monsta X have reached the Top 10 without being from a Big 4 company. The rest of the chart is mostly Big 4 groups or ones that had some big company connection. I’m a MOA too, so this isn’t hate at all, I know how much Big 4 trainees go through. But seeing smaller company groups make it on their own just hits different. It’s so hard to break into the western market without that kind of backing. As a P1ece, I’m honestly so proud. They’ve worked so hard and kept improving every comeback. Same with Ateez, they built such a huge fanbase from nothing. I remember piwon starting with 2k sales while their direct competitor enhypen (which I really adore) with 100k+ sales was so sad lol now they making their path up there 🥲 (Tho not having company fandom can make sustaining these numbers hard in future but let's see where fnc take them with promos) It just makes me really happy seeing groups from smaller companies get the recognition they deserve! submitted by /u/Over_Length_440 [link] [comments]

5. Beyond the Album - 10 Years With Twice

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┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓ Hey everyone, Twice is back with a special album to commemorate their 10th anniversary as a group. Being a Kpop group for 10 years is an accomplishment and something that should be celebrated with any group. Before I hop into the project, I made a list of all the Twice album reviews I’ve done since I started reviewing music. As someone who has been a Once since 2015, I’m excited to explore this album and see what all the members have done with the record. Now let’s jump in as we celebrate the 10 years of Twice. ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛ https://preview.redd.it/50tpg4pqwbuf1.jpg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb902bb898994aa77b12a5c5d50bd1d6b0c488cf Past Twice Review Blogs: Twice First Full Album Twice Is In Love Summer With Twice Like Bulldozer, Like A Tank Twice!! Twice or Twice Twice is Fancy Twice is Special Twice & Twice Twice Falls Can't Stop Twice Taste of Twice Twice World O+T=<3 Celebrate Twice Between Twice Ready For Twice With Twice Diving into Twice The Strategy of Twice This is for Twice Enemy of Twice ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ TEN: The Story Goes On - Twice 1. Me + You The opening song on the album is the title track, which all the members helped co-write. The song is an R&B-pop tune that feels like it came right out of the 2000s. The members bring in smooth vocals that blend with the bouncy instrumental. I love the groovy nature that the tune delivers, fitting the lyrics. The hook has been stuck in my head as the lyrics and melody help make it catchy. Momo and Chae do a little rap that adds to the overall vibe of the song. The members' vocals hit hard on this tune, pulling everything together. The message of this tune hits as well as you can tell that this group has a bond and how much they’ve grown over the years since their debut back in 2015. Me + You opens up this project perfectly as everything fits together wonderfully. https://preview.redd.it/ohtrd38zwbuf1.jpg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6c24548329e1b7c3ddc10200fec4202702ded41 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ MEEEEEE (NAYEON) After the title track, we get the first solo on the record one from Nayeon, which I’ve been excited about. I’ve been a big fan of her solo output since Pop! and was curious to see what MEEEEEE would be bringing to the table. MEEEEEEgoes for this bouncy-pop tune that has some tongue-in-cheek lyrics. The vocals are smooth, fitting the pop nature perfectly as they help make this one catchy tune. I wonder if this song was a leftover from her Na album she has already released, cause it feels like it could’ve been on that project. I’ve been having this tune on repeat today since it’s one that has been stuck in my head, and one that I can’t stop humming the melody. https://preview.redd.it/nwkjr867xbuf1.jpg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d061ece163fe5269e9f5ea40d4a078f0376b9118 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ FIX A DRINK (JEONGYEON) Jeongyeon is the second solo on the album and one of the most interesting tracks. Jeongyeon’s solo goes for this country-pop tune, reminding me of Austin by Dasha. The guitar definitely has that country vibe, fitting with the smooth vocals from Jeongyeon. The lyrics have bits of a country twang to them that help paint the picture that the singer is delivering. The hook keeps pulling me back for more as I’m enjoying that section a lot. Jeonhyeon fits this country vibe perfectly, as this might be the best country-sounding song that has come out of Korea. If you think Jeongyeon can’t sing, listen to this track, cause she has a beautiful voice. https://preview.redd.it/36mon75fxbuf1.jpg?width=2669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cb6f6d5dc5f07cdb570eae473d86decbd477cf1 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ MOVE LIKE THAT (MOMO) Momo delivers the third solo on the album, fitting this dance-pop-sounding beat. Momo brings in a slick vocal performance that fits the thumping bass and synth. The hook has been growing on me with each listen, as I’m starting to like that section. Momo does give us a little rap that adds to the overall vibe of the tune, which works wonderfully with his voice. I find that Momo fits the best with a Dance-pop sound, as it lets her use a deeper tone that we don’t get to hear from her that much. I will say I like a deeper tone from Momo than her squeaky tone she normally does. https://preview.redd.it/75iu1twkxbuf1.jpg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64f65bd24610440aa1fa23bfcaccb80887f317a5 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ DECAFFEINATED (SANA) Sana delivers the fourth solo on the album, one that has a tropical vibe to it that works well with her voice. Sana has a sweet voice that fits with this tropical-dance-pop beat like crazy. The hook has a smooth vibe that fits the performance perfectly. I wasn’t sure what type of song Sana would be going for, but after hearing it, I find that this tropical-dance-pop vibe fits her wonderfully, and this is another song on the album that is growing on me just like the Momo solo. This new Sana solo is just as good as Mirage, which was on the Misamo album. https://preview.redd.it/46m554vrxbuf1.jpg?width=266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=741c47abbceee0e0632641ccc49c1045a8e2a3aa ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ ATM (JIHYO) The fifth solo on the album is from Jihyo, who goes for this slick-saltry-R&B tune that hits hard. Jihyo’s performance has a bit of a swag nature that blends with her voice. I love the delivery of the vocals as Jihyo hits some slick notes that blend with the smooth instrumental. The hook is smooth, just like the verses that keep pulling me back for more. Jihyo is a great vocalist, and this is another tune she dominates, even in the lyrics. The thumping nature of the bass adds to the vibe of the tune, which is helping get this song stuck in my head. The bridge is another section that hits hard as Jihyo hits some fantastic notes. https://preview.redd.it/4lczla0xxbuf1.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f86f8b12fa0602c4a90bfcb8c774aac576bc13b ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ STONE COLD (MINA) For the sixth solo on the album, Mina delivers this dark-pop tune that I didn’t expect from Mina. Mina’s slick voice hits hard with the dark nature of the instrumental. The groove the instrumental delivers is something that fits the delivery of the vocal performance. I might like this dark-pop tune from Mina a little more than Misty, but that was still a great song. The hook has this experimental vibe that adds to the overall vibe. Mina does a great job with her solo, which I will be having this track on repeat. https://preview.redd.it/6keh8zo1ybuf1.jpg?width=2001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b2edf7dd131fbf52021772f9d40a335af5850d7 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ 8. CHESS (DAHYUN) Dahyun’s solo on the album turns Für Elise into a trap tune, which I didn’t expect. Dahyun delivers a killer performance that fits perfectly with the Für Elise sample. The hook is pretty catchy thanks to the sample the producers used. The thumping trap vibe moves the tune forward, blending with the vocals from the singer. During the bridge, Dahyun spits a rap that I didn’t expect at all, but it works wonderfully with the vibe. With each listen to Chess, I find myself falling in love with it even more as Dahyun keeps impressing me. https://preview.redd.it/vc5itl48ybuf1.jpg?width=278&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4c7fbb204bb198bc83257265ac273b0541a3d3b ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ 9. IN MY ROOM (CHAEYOUNG) Now, long ago, we heard Chaeyoung’s first solo album, one that went for an indie-pop sound that I didn’t expect. For her new song, she goes for a dream-pop sound with vocals that feel a bit pitched. At first, I didn’t like the vocals much, but I’m starting to get used to them. Chae’s performance fits the dream synth-pop melody that works with the singer. The hook is bouncy with its dreamy nature, which I think fits the singer the best. I have always found Chae the most different out of the group, and he solo music shows that she likes a different kind of sound than the rest of the group, but it’s something that works for her. https://preview.redd.it/0czw3xtcybuf1.jpg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9a75148990e1df4afcf1bb8a862e73ae8c31209 ━━━━━━━━☓ ━━━━━━━ 10. DIVE IN (TZUYU) Tzuyu closes out the album with an R&B-pop tune that works perfectly with her sweet voice. Tzuyu fits wonderfully with the high hats, the moves, and this bouncy tune perfectly. The hook is slick and smooth as Tzuyu brings in a sweet tone that adds to the mix. I feel like this solo from Tzuyu hit differently than what we got on her solo album, which I enjoyed a lot. DIVE IN closes out the album in an excellent way that makes this project complete. https://preview.redd.it/9qoha78hybuf1.jpg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a6e661ba1049ca5070f43df9bcba9eea1bf11c5 ┏━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┓ Summary: Twice released a special album that I had a fun time listening to, as it felt like a celebration of the ten years of being a group. The members do a great job with their solo’s impressing me a lot. Jeongyeon goes for this country-pop vibe that I wasn’t expecting at all, but it works wonderfully with her voice. Nayeon gave us a catchy pop solo that I know will be stuck in my head like crazy. Dahyun hit hard with the classical sample her solo brought to the table. All the solos on the project brought something to the table, and they are all ones that I will be having on repeat as I continue to celebrate ten years of Twice. ┗━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━┛ https://preview.redd.it/7s03omakybuf1.jpg?width=1292&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af3b402610c5ad9f7f35986e80c1ed7d097dcd83 submitted by /u/Maltifandom23 [link] [comments]

6. "I would recognize my idol anywhere" until it's a video of him walking hand in hand with another female idol

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I'm digging up old stuff I know (this being downvoted wouldn't surprise me and if it does it's fine lol), but is anyone still so dumbfounded by this? 2 of the biggest idols of the biggest kpop groups, being seen walking hand in hand together. Tons of evidence to support it was 99% them, and yet fans decided to.... mass delude themselves into believing they were cosplayers? Look, if they can play parasocial, so will I for a second; that walk and posture in the video was very Taehyung lol. I guess I got reminded of this incident because of the whole 'Jennie, Kai and Taehyung' incident this week of them all going to Paris lol, and for some reason, so many comments were once again stuff like "why is Taehyung dragged into this, they never dated". (and ofcourse they are ALWAYS Taekook shippers lmao). Anyway, I just think it's funny how these fans will act like they know their idols the best, up until it gets a bit too real for them and then all of a sudden they all are apparently in desperate need of a pair of glasses. submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

7. Four Different Perspectives in the Light of a Dreamlike Night 🐉

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A perfect blend of traditional Chinese beauty and fantasy aesthetics. Which photo gives off more 'main character' energy? submitted by /u/GooseSignificant8293 [link] [comments]

8. Anyone wanna go Kpop clubbing London? 18+

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There is a Kpop clubbing event in London on 17th October but I have no one to go with! Anyone wanna go? https://www.instagram.com/kpoppartyuk?igsh=MW1vMjFzdHc0b2JhYQ== submitted by /u/Straight_Ad_2386 [link] [comments]

9. Group member age orders that make no sense?

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What are some groups where their members have a totally unexpected age order? For example, Rei being half a year older than Wonyoung is crazy. And also that Yujin is only half a year older than Rei also doesn't feel real. submitted by /u/SpecSlayerSC [link] [comments]

10. guys i need kpop mutuals im going insane!

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came back on x after like a year and a half hiatus 😭 last time i was active was during all the elast drama and ngl they were my ult of ults so the thought of them disbanding + life going on at the time was literally sending me into a full autism burnout but now i’m back and i need more moots!! i stan way too many groups (basically every gg under the sun + a ton of bgs and trainees)... i’m a certified nugu addict if you need someone to unhingedly yap with my @ is EONDOKKIES (yes i’m evnnemaxxing, it’s terminal at this point) let’s be friends pls submitted by /u/yukasbf [link] [comments]

11. Rate the songs I listened the most in the past 1 year!

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12. NINGNING (aespa) - ALO x NINGNING (ALO CF)

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13. Why is every other member’s hate/shady remarks unacceptable until it comes to Dani of Katseye?

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[I know Katseye isn’t kpop but they’re kpop adjacent and the main Katseye sub didn’t approve my post] I want to preface this by saying I’m not a stan of Katseye yet, but I finally watched pop star academy a few months ago and I tend to see them very often on my fyp. And what’s been showing up more recently is people harping on Daniela from trying to downplay her talents to making fun of her looks/facials. This was barely something I would’ve seen a few months ago. If you go on a lot of Dani-specific posts on here or other platforms, I’ve noticed a trend of people talking about anything else BUT Dani. Or trying to downplay the post. I know how kpop and kpop adjacent fandoms work and this would never fly with anyone else, and if it did happen then fans would rightfully call out this behavior. I don’t know if it’s intertwined with a racial aspect, from some eyekons saying they didn’t want a “white girl” (Emily) to be in the group, to being dogged by people calling out Dani for being white, to some eyekons in turn not wanting to be seen defending a “white girl” but it’s so strange. I’ve noticed this weird animosity towards her started AFTER a few posts calling Dani white went viral. And honestly after she herself shot up in popularity. All of sudden people are hyper focusing on her facials when just a month or 2 ago everyone was ravingggg over how she executed Gnarly. Now all of sudden people are mad she’s in the in the center when she and Manon have majority of the time been joint center/faces from debut (I searched it up!!!). Now apparently she barely has stage presence (but Gnarly their breakout single gained a ton of traction because of her overall execution and her fancams? 😭), she’s a terrible singer, she’s not good looking, she lacks versatility (super untrue but let online evaluators tell it lol) — all according to the tens of Katseye ranking videos on TikTok 🫩 And the most disheartening part is, I see so many other so-called “EYEKONS” in these comment sections equally bashing Dani or getting /mad/ at others for trying to change peoples’ perspectives. As someone who knew Dani, her family before Katseye even began and is engaged in Latin American politics; Dani is just as mixed as Manon and Megan 😭 when yall call her just white you are erasing her indigenous ancestry specifically from her mothers side (her dad has a little 🤏🏾 too). The same way it would be maddening to call Megan or Manon just white. People’s understanding of race outside of America—even in America—is so limited. The masses are just realizing Latino/Hispanic isn’t a race but also still thinks that the only 3 racial classifications in LatAm are white, indigenous and black lol. Even in America there are more racial classifications and even some that recognize mixed people like the rest of the world, but is for some reason ignored. She looks white passing to some but to me and many others she looks obviously Mestiza because… well hello she is Mestiza. And for those who are unaware, Mestiza is a term that classifies a certain mixed racial group in Latin America that descends from both Indigenous (South) American and Spanish/Spaniard roots. Yall love to say race is based on how you navigate the world or how you are perceived (wrong) when it comes to labeling mixed girls as just their non-white half, but yall completely disregarded how Dani said in P.A. how she felt like she didn’t fit in with the other (white) girls, as do most POC, and straightened and dyed her hair blonde to try and assimilate. Why is her experience constantly invalidated or less defended by eyekons? As a fully black girl, growing up I’ve never seen Dani as just white and most of her family doesn’t even identify as white 😭😭😭 Just my little 2 cents, this is both a question and place for discussion. Please let’s be respectful to one another prayer🙏🏾 submitted by /u/niaaaaaintheflesh [link] [comments]

14. Just happy/rant with smaller nom big 4 groups making it big

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In honor of P1Harmony hitting the Billboard 200 Top 10, I just wanted to give a shoutout to the non-Big 4 groups who’ve made it this far. From what I read, only Ateez, P1Harmony, and Monsta X have reached the Top 10 without being from a Big 4 company. The rest of the chart is mostly Big 4 groups or ones that had some big company connection. I’m a MOA too, so this isn’t hate at all, I know how much Big 4 trainees go through. But seeing smaller company groups make it on their own just hits different. It’s so hard to break into the western market without that kind of backing. As a P1ece, I’m honestly so proud. They’ve worked so hard and kept improving every comeback. Same with Ateez, they built such a huge fanbase from nothing. I remember piwon starting with 2k sales while their direct competitor enhypen (which I really adore) with 100k+ sales was so sad lol now they making their path up there 🥲 (Tho not having company fandom can make sustaining these numbers hard in future but let's see where fnc take them with promos) It just makes me really happy seeing groups from smaller companies get the recognition they deserve! submitted by /u/Over_Length_440 [link] [comments]

15. Rui from xlov was recently yelled at by their CEO for trying to pick up a pride flag

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It's just so sad seeing his reaction. He was definitely confused and upset. The company is definitely taking advantage of the members queerness but not letting them fully embrace themselves. submitted by /u/xlov_mother_muti [link] [comments]

16. What color do y'all associate with your favorite groups?

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Just curious if everyone associates a color to their favorite groups. Even if they have a designated color (like purple with bts), you know sometimes you think of a color that they remind you of. submitted by /u/annimba23 [link] [comments]

17. Did you know?- That this year, Xiaojun of NCT organised a birthday dinner at a restaurant for his fans and that long white "scarf" is the receipt cause he paid for all their meals😂😂

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In that case- I’ll have the steak, smothered in onions. A rack of ribs. Pasta with extra garlic. French fries with lots of vinegar, and a side of onion rings with lots of sauerkraut. Thank you😂😂. I believe this was in China, not sure submitted by /u/Muted_Bodybuilder109 [link] [comments]

18. Which K-pop group do you think Yoonchae would fit into if she were a K-pop idol?

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Mine: nmixx or lsrfm submitted by /u/Any_Mountain_8886 [link] [comments]

19. What’s your opinion on idols getting plastic surgery and the fans that say the idols never get them?

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I hate it when idols get plastic surgery, especially the really young ones. It’s a known fact that 99% of idols get some form of surgery, but there’s a lot of fans that attack people when someone tells them their favs got surgery . submitted by /u/Plumie26 [link] [comments]

20. Non Kpop songs I NEED idols to cover ASAP!! 🔥

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Whataya want from me - Adam Lambert: inspired this post, I would love to hear a make Idol with a powerful voice like Jungkook, the main vocal of Ateez (sorry Atinys idk,is it Jungho? 🥹👉👈) or Yeonjun! Golden hour - Jvke: this song is just beautiful, listening to this near nature is even more, I need a voice like Liz, Rora or even TWS main vocal (sorry 🥹👍....) to cover this!!! Cry baby - official hige dandsim: no other group would do this song justice like Ateez, I don't even follow them but YES🤌 Ghost town - Benson Boone: Such a sweet song, love it, wish it was longer but that's another story, PLS ROSÉ COVER THIS!!! 😍 Die with a smile - Bruno Mars & Lady Gaga: speaking of the Queen, we needa Bruno Rosé duo on this song, if you don't get it I don't get you 🤭 Birds of a feather - Billie Eilish: I think someone with a style like Ahyeon would slay this song!🎀 The reason - Hobastank: Oh how I love this song, tbh any Idol who covers it I would be rlly happy, but idk... Yujin (Ive) is CALLING meeeeeee!!🔥 Well these are some, wbu? 🩷 submitted by /u/d33pblushxy [link] [comments]

21. Who's your bias and bias wrecker in CORTIS??

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mine is martin!! >o< submitted by /u/Any_Mountain_8886 [link] [comments]

22. There is an overwhelming use of samples in kpop songs right now

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I understand that in today's day and age, it's very hard to think of parts of songs that haven't been done before by someone one way or another, but I find myself missing when every single Kpop song that I heard didn't use a (most of the time very well known too) sample that just makes me want to listen to the original song more than anything. I get it, the company has bought the samples (most of the time atleast) so they're not actually doing something wrong, but it does bother me the slightest bit. I also just think that the samples very often are incorperated quite lazily. They buy the sample, slap a bit of lyrics as a prechorus before, and then just use the sample as 'the beat drop' and 'highlight part' of the song. Just now, Babymonster's "we go up" (for which I haven't figured out from which song the sample is exactly but it's so recognizable), Blackpink's "Jump", Illit's "do that dance", Enhypen's "Bad desire", Lisa's "Rockstar"... Then again, we can also make the point that this is happening a lot in the western music market. Atleast Kpop artists (so far atleast) haven't gone the 'David Guetta (ft. Bebe Rexha)' way of just straight up ripping off old club classics and making terrible remakes of them' (that for some reason get radio play?). Shit like that genuinely pisses me of (because oh my god the songs suck so bad) but I'm scared that's what music will turn into in a few years submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

23. MEOVV - BURNING UP (Title Poster)

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