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So this post is not really about the YGE typical concept/sound being good or bad. If you like it, cool, if you don't, also totally fine. But it's hard to deny that what is viewed as a blueprint for YGE girl groups has been plenty successful for a long time now, starting from the 2nd gen and to the current 5th gen. I think 15 years of continuous interest from the public is a decent indicator of it not being a fluke. And interestingly enough YGE girl groups get to claim that entire lane without being really challenged. As an example, the same is not true for their male counterparts. The pattern of a self-produced boy group with a strong rap line and charismatic performers, first popularized in Asia by BigBang and then made famous worldwide by BTS, does get utilized by a lot of labels. Treasure don't get to be unique in that regard, since groups like Stray Kids, ATEEZ and others are also active and killing it. While the pattern of a girl group with a charismatic rap line and hip-hop/EDM based music isn't utilized to the same degree despite a proven track record of success. Obviously we had a girl crush wave at the beginning of 4th gen, partly due to BP's meteoric rise, but groups like ITZY/Aespa/Le Sserafim weren't particularly similar to BP despite having certain elements in common. Maybe Everglow had some singles in that lane. It helped BP because nobody was offering what they offered, so they could maintain all of the interest and attention more easily even without putting out as much content. But the biggest beneficiaries were certainly BabyMonster. Their rollout was messy, they debuted without their most popular member, the promotions were subpar for a big company, their concepts were not exactly original, but they still practically sleepwalked into becoming arguably the biggest 5th gen girl group. And the truth is that there's nothing groundbreaking about why they are successful. They are charismatic and skilled live performers with a hip-hop/EDM based discography, they release bangers that make people want to attend their shows, basically the same reasons why their predecessors did so well too. They just don't have a lot of competition in that lane despite the consistent interest from the general public and K-pop fans alike over the last 15+ years. If you're the only pizzeria in a big city, you don't have to be exceptional to be in demand, you just need to make a good pizza. submitted by /u/Asleep_Swing2979 [link] [comments]

I seen this done with hair color and female idols but not with outfits for male idols so chose what you feel is the most iconic male idols outfit in each color The commented the most is the one that will win submitted by /u/kpopfan230 [link] [comments]

Now I don't like this user. They're incredibly problematic and have done and said very questionable things, and they are my number one opp in the kpop spear, but regardless these are some great points (do you know that article that's like "worst person you know made a great point?"me rn) The wording is harsh and I don't like that, but there's points here that I agree with Heavy on the first paragraph. "You can't consistently over share and communicate with those who admire you and expect them not to form a parasocial bond" submitted by /u/acorrnn [link] [comments]

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Outside of gnarly, I feel like Katseye music are made to appeal to the western audience. Touch, debut, gameboy or Gabriella are songs that are more likely to be liked by « locals » and k-pop stans all togheter. Whereas Vcha’s songs are way more « kpop coded » reminding me of vibrants and catchy Disney coded songs that are more likely to appeal to kpop Stans. To me, this is one of the reasons why Vcha never gained recognition outside of the kpop community. Moreover the group itself was branded as a girl group of youthful and energetic young girls, which is once again how a lot of kpop girl groups are introduced to the public where Katseye adopted a more mature and atypical concept. To be honest when I look at Katseye them I see young, funny, attractive girls in their 20´s. This is again more appealing to an audience worldwide as a lot of people can actually relate to them while JYP monitored every single of Vcha’s public appearances and wouldn’t let them being fully themselves on camera. In that sense I think that the mistreatment played a big role in that aspect as they couldn’t express themselves freely. submitted by /u/Elynuunn [link] [comments]

I'm only counting the groups which have the highest votes I'll count soloists The top 5 results for favorite group beginning with F: 1. f(x) - 66 2. Fromis_9 - 65 3. F.T. Island - 15 4. Fiestar - 13 5. Forestella - 11 submitted by /u/Fun_Mine_4937 [link] [comments]

Idk why but lately, I find myself having this insane feeling towards BONEDO. Like some sort of dopamine or smth. I don't know if it's because of them or just a normal feeling towards stanning new groups but I think it's different. I really like their songs and how it really lifts the spirit within me. Some top songs of mine were IISILY, Serenade, and OUR. I haven't really fully discovered their songs yet and I'm excited to explore more of them. Just wanted to share my feeling cuz I don't have any friends to talk to abt this submitted by /u/min_shu [link] [comments]

I have been stewing about this for the last few days....As a fan of KARD for years, I have always wished them to get a music show win. I know it doesn't matter to them having sold out concerts world wide, or if they are at risk of disbanding cause they obviously are not and have been around for 8 years and still going strong. But as a fan I wish they could have that accomplishment. Then Allday Project shows up and wins only days after debut with KARD promoting their own comeback (Touch which is super sexy btw). I keep asking why. Is it the new shinny thing? Is it Black Lable's money? Cause I think co-ed groups are great and I always wish new ones luck, I am glad to see a co-ed group get love like that. But at the heartbreak for KARD....too soon (I hate when brand new groups win right away always, I feel like it means less) Am I the only one feeling this way? submitted by /u/AncientKpopStan [link] [comments]

Template by u/Funny_shit_ig! Just a small request, let's try to be as fair as possible when naming idols. I know we all love our biases but avoid defaulting to them if there's someone you genuinely think stands out as a dancer even if they're not your ult please feel free to name them. The goal is to appreciate real talent and keep things fun and respectful for everyone! Again to keep things fair, please avoid repeating names that have already been mentioned. Let's give everyone a chance - the comment with the most upvotes wins! submitted by /u/lia_core [link] [comments]

so, i wanted to compile all anime/jpop sounding kpop songs into one playlist, but i feel like i'm still missing some, could anyone help recommend me some songs that arent there yet—especially the ones with a melancholy feel please🥹🙏 thank u sm ^ submitted by /u/Admirable_Return1178 [link] [comments]

📌 Template by u/Funny_shit_ig! Just a small request, let’s try to be as fair as possible when naming idols. I know we all love our biases but avoid defaulting to them if there’s someone you genuinely think stands out as a dancer even if they’re not your ult please feel free to name them. The goal is to appreciate real talent and keep things fun and respectful for everyone! Again to keep things fair, please avoid repeating names that have already been mentioned. Let’s give everyone a chance — the comment with the most upvotes wins! submitted by /u/lia_core [link] [comments]

Not to mention The choreography is not even that hard and they not even singing in that song its just rap talking. submitted by /u/Mysterious-Oil120 [link] [comments]

Yesterday, it was announced that a group of HYBE idols were invited to be members of the Recording Academy. Woozi and Zico makes sense, they're actual producers and artists, even yunjin makes sense. but katseye? really? And I saw people saying, well Addison Rae got invited, so why not katseye, addison co-wrote and co-produced a critically praised album alongside 2 female producers. katseye do not have a single credit in their two critically panned EPs which was described as generic and incohesive, for all we know the girls have never even been in the room which their music was made in, what do they know about music? and i know this is all HYBE and they applied for the members but the optics do not look good. leon thomas spent years in the industry before being invited, katseye is a year old group with no credibility besides a billion dollar conglomerate backing them submitted by /u/Positive-Guava4746 [link] [comments]

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I'd like to preface by saying that I am a male. So if you want to say this brings forth some bias then sure. I understand that Katseye definitely takes elements from KPOP culture but its important to remember that they are a girl group not a KPOP group. Unironically, the songs Gabriella and in this case Gnarly feel like they fit the personas of the members much more than the "cutesy" songs like touch and gameboy even though they are great songs too. If you watch their reels and stuff like that they do a good bit of "sassy" skits. Even how they behave in other behind the scenes style videos, it all comes across as more raw and goofy. Im not saying that "touch" and songs a like feel dDisingenuous to character BUT even the group has said that "gnarly" made them feel like they could show the sides of themselves they have been able to and enjoyed it. With all this being said, I feel like i could connect more with "gnarly" even though it was kind of a crazy song. They even say that this song is for the "boring ass bitch(es)." In retrospect their other songs, while good, are fairly generic. This one was different and I like. submitted by /u/CrunchGD [link] [comments]

Hi! Yesterday I was looking for a song, I didn't see the rule against that (sorry). But I found the song. I decided to make a playlist with songs that are good but are not gonna be recommended on youtube a lot. So I won't have to look for them again in the future. In the top half I have the songs where it's most likely that you'll discover something new. And in the bottom half there's songs by well known artists that are not that big or I just wanted to save them. I tried to only put songs in that actually don't have many views, like 10 Million or under. There are a few that are above 10 million but not too many. I also didn't put every single song from the same artist some have just 1 song and if you're interested in more you have to search yourself :) If you have any suggestions to add I'll gladly listen to the songs :) And I'll probably also update it myself when I remember more songs. Legitimate_Stand9654 BicycleNo1181 Thank you for the chat yesterday I hope you find something you like and you don't know yet:) submitted by /u/2NE1SNSD [link] [comments]