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How to play: Comment or upvote the idol you want to win in the given category. Rules for part one (first slide): 1. Don't comment idols that have already won in another category. 2. Male idols only. 3. Maximum of two idols from the same group. 4. All generations included. Today's category: VOCALIST submitted by /u/ExtensionStation6334 [link] [comments]

I’ve been a fan of her since the IZ\ONE* days, she’s been my bias for years. Admiring someone doesn’t mean I think every single thing they do is flawless. Recently, under a video where she did something I found a bit cringey (ig aegyo itself is a bit cringey, we can all agree with that), I said: “I love her, but this moment was kinda cringe ngl lol 😅” It was just a lighthearted opinion about a moment, not an attack on her as a person. But even with a “love her” in my comment, the reaction was: “Just scroll.” “Don’t say that here.” “You’re a hater.” This is exactly what I find strange in K-pop spaces. If you’re a fan, sometimes it feels like you’re only “allowed” to post praise, anything else, even mild, respectful criticism, is treated like hate :/ Here’s what I’m trying to say: Loving an idol doesn’t mean agreeing with 100% of what they do. Noticing something awkward or silly doesn’t mean you dislike them. Respectful disagreement shouldn’t be taboo in fan spaces. If you can scroll past a comment that’s not your vibe, great, just like I could’ve scrolled past moments I didn’t enjoy. We don’t need to turn every small critique into a war. Maybe the problem isn’t the opinion. Maybe it’s how allergic some people have become to even the softest disagreement. submitted by /u/Distinct-Egg-7973 [link] [comments]

It's no secret most solo artists tend to fall through the cracks a bit in kpop. And that's a shame, with so much great music coming out from that particular group. So I wanted to do an artist spotlight post about my absolute favorite singer and soloist in kpop, Yuju - and hopefully introduce some new people to her music. And with her new album 𝑰𝒏 𝑩𝒍𝒐𝒐𝒎 coming out August 12th, I guess now's a pretty good time to do it. You may already know some of her highlights from her time with GFRIEND, but I really think a lot of her best vocal work has been these past few years, where she's had the freedom to explore her musicality and voice a lot more. A really distinct and unique artist is taking shape before our eyes I think, and I'm excited to share a bit of that! So, if you happen to have some time on your hands, let me take you through her career up to this point, briefly visiting her time in GFRIEND, her venture into solo life as a singer-songwriter, and all the little setbacks and victories along the way. In addition to going through all her official releases, I'll give you a curated list of some of her best cover and special stage performances, collabs, and other small tidbits. This will likely be fairly long - so I don't expect anyone to read it all the way through. Feel free to skim! And if you're just interested in seeing an index of all her work, the Yuju sub wiki has you covered. Either way, if just one or two people end up checking out her work based on this post, that'll be enough for me! So whether you're completely new to this absolute gem of a singer, or just haven't caught up with her stuff since GFRIEND's 'disbandment', here's a little rundown of who she is as an artist. Let's go! The basics: Personal Instagram | Official Instagram | Official Youtube Channel Choi Yuna 최유나 (stage name YUJU 유주), born October 4 1997, first debuted in January 2015 as the main vocalist of the 3rd gen girlgroup GFRIEND. Yuju immediately stood out with her vocal skills, and was quickly and widely lauded as one of the top vocalists coming out of the 3rd generation, known for her impressive chesty belting, flawless vibrato, rich mature tone and raw emotion when singing. Even pre-debut her company knew what kind of talent they sat on, and started pumping out pre-debut covers, like 'The Diva Project's Mermaid' and 'Destiny's Child's Stand Up For Love'. After her debut, she immediately started picking up OST work, and was incredibly lucky with a smash hit straight out of the gate, with her and Loco's song Spring Is Gone By Chance. Since then she's racked up 22 OST credits in total, including another minor hit with the remake of The Nolans’ I'm In The Mood For Dancing. She also got to perform in several high profile collaborations and special stages in the years following. Some of you might have seen her in things like the 2017 SBS Gayo performance of Butterfly, or the Girl's Present performance of Into The New World at the 2016 KBS Song Festival. It's fair to say she's a naturally gifted singer, with a unique vocal colour, but she has very much worked her butt off from day one. Famously she was rejected by JYP for having a 'plain' voice when she auditioned for K-Pop Star 1 back in 2011 - And when she finally did debut 4 years later, you certainly couldn't say that anymore. She was also a trainee at Cube, but got kicked out after about 4 months. Over the years she's explored and changed things around, and has become an incredibly nuanced, expressive singer, with a wide range and toolkit. She quickly picked up the nicknames 'golden member' and 'ace' from her group members and fans due to her natural ability to nail just about everything she tried, ranging from bizarre variety show games to sports, dancing, poledance - and later on songwriting. GFRIEND's main dancer SinB even referred to her as the second strongest dancer in the group towards the end of their initial run, despite her not being part of their dance line officially. She did always take the longest to learn the choreography though. But dancing hasn't really been a big part of her solo catalogue so far, with only a handful of songs receiving choreography. The few choreographies she has had though have been great, and have felt fitting for her vibe. She's also quite acrobatic and flexible, and loves doing spins, splits and things. Her initial dream was to become a figure skater, so that does track. GFRIEND would occasionally incorporate some of that into their choreo, like the backwards split slide from Me Gustas Tu (which can only really be appreciated when you see it from the side). It's also safe to say she is quite. the. overlooked. visual. She also famously ended the whole rap game in 30 seconds. As a person, she's quite the odd duck, and got yet another nickname from her group members, 'YeoJaeYi' (GFRIEND's very weird person). She’s a bit silly and random, and has a seemingly endless number of weird tricks and skills up her sleeve, that she'll unleash in variety show settings, mostly to somewhat puzzled response. On the flip-side, she’s also incredibly sincere and thoughtful. And very introspective, which will later show in her solo concepts and lyrics. She's terrified of heights, and has an ongoing obsession with sweet potatoes. In general she's got a very quirky and off-beat sense of humor, and while that doesn't always totally land in variety settings, it's very endearing. She's also a bit ditzy, with a habit of zoning out, and frequently tends to get lost, which became a lingering fan-meme. In general just sweet, kind.. and a bit weird. She's also a crazy hard worker who just does not give up. There's the well-known, horrible GFRIEND slipping video, where she just refused to give up on performing on that slippery stage in the rain. While that video isn’t cherished - by her, the rest of GFRIEND, or their fans - and absolutely isn't something she should have had to endure in the first place, it does encapsulate who she is. If she falls, she's picking herself back up, no matter how many times it happens. I'd also say she's a bit shy and careful, which probably isn't doing her any favors as a soloist. She’s instantly way more carefree and silly when in trusted company, like with the GFRIEND members or label mates. But there's always that burst of extroverted energy that can detonate just about anywhere, leading to random splits, cartwheels and unhinged crazy dancing. Often also abruptly scandalous, to her members' dismay. There are a ton of great Youtube guides to check out if you want to know more. This 'Unhelpful' guide is one I always liked for example! Musically she seems like a bit of an omnivore. She's mostly shared RNB tracks and various western music on her SNS over the years, but is also a diehard G-Idle fan. Her choices of covers that we'll get into later also sheds some light on what she likes. She's mentioned one of her dream collabs being American singer-songwriter Tori Kelly. She's also quite fond of working with rappers, and wishes to collab with overseas ones eventually. And she does speak English, with her mother even working as an English. But her level of fluency goes up and down over time, and at times she's been quite rusty and slightly nervous about speaking it. The GFRIEND era: And we're off! There's already a very comprehensive spotlight about GFRIEND here on the sub, and two covering the disbandment, and what followed. So I won't go much into detail. But from her debut in 2015 she spent 6 fun and intense years with the GFRIEND members, where they experienced both highs and lows in excess. With the group, she would go on to release 16 albums, with roughly 100 songs altogether. She also participated on a couple of group OSTs, special releases and collaborations with other artists, and got to attend many year-end stages, such as the 2016 MMA stage of Navillera and Rough where she really got to shine. She also got the chance to perform with the legendary Wheesung on Fantastic Duo, and to perform the OST hit Stay With Me with Chanyeol on Music Bank Jakarta, among other things. They also got the chance to tour quite a bit, although it was mostly relegated to the SEA region, where they enjoyed the most popularity. GFRIEND's company was very strict, and didn't allow for much opportunity for the members individually. In fact they sort of made it a point to mainly stick to group activities and concepts - and so she sadly didn't get to dip her toes into the solo realm too much during her time at Source Music. As varied a discography as GFRIEND had, there were certainly even more genres and vibes a singer of her caliber could and should have gotten to explore, that she didn't get to. Her one foray into solo work was the release of the digital single featuring SURAN - the jazzy and mellow Love Rain in 2018. There are too many fun performances and things that happened in those years to get into here, but I'll give you a few that resonate with me at least: 2016 Dream Concert Stage of BoA's One Voice. This cover of Gravity (orig. Sara Bareilles) on Sound K. Her Masked Singer performance of 8Eight's Without A Heart. The backing track cutting out during her part in a GFRIEND performance, and the crowd absolutely loving it. Her solo stage cover of Ailee's Heaven, from Season Of GFRIEND. Her emotional and raw tribute cover of Shin Haecul's When Our Lives Are Almost Over, on Immortal Songs. Her feature on Joon Jong Shin's The Last Exam. Towards the later years of GFRIEND she thankfully did start to be involved in the songwriting process, which is something she always expressed a deep interest in. She had composition and lyrical credits in songs like Mago, Apple, Hope, Eye Of The Storm, Tarot Cards, Night Drive and Always. Since 2019 at least, we know she's been hard at work writing her own songs with her trusty fan-gifted guitar - some of which would later be released once she debuted solo. GFRIEND's initial run ended abruptly and horribly in May 2021. With their popularity at the time being just a fraction of what it had been at their peak, and with their old company's insistence on sticking to group activities, leading to little individual popularity for the members - they were all in a sense back to square one. Not getting to more gradually transition into solo life, and getting to milk more of GFRIEND's fame definitively made the start of Yuju's solo career a bit harder than it could have been. At the time there was uncertainty about whether she and the rest of the girls would even stay in the limelight. But luckily we didn't have to wait too long! Going Solo In August 2021, news broke that she had signed with Kang Daniel's Konnect Entertainment. This marked a period of new experiences and exploration for her, where she got to take charge of her own creative vision, and to pursue the music she wanted to create. While we had to wait a while still for her re-debut, we got introduced to her new life at Konnect straight away. And it was clear she was in a very different, more open and free environment. She attended songwriting camps, got involved in every step of the music production pipeline and got to network with a ton of different producers and artists. Just a ton of firsts really. Even her first tattoo. The word, 'First' - how's that for meta. She immediately seemed to bond with her company family, and we got a lot of great content from her with her two main producers, Chancellor and Purple. Her episode of Chancellor's Midnight Show shows off their great energy together. She was also invited to participate in Cyworld's BGM2021's OST remake project, and did a gorgeous rendition of Jo Sung Mo's By Your Side, with PURPLE playing the piano. She also got back to doing OST work, and started a VLOG series, Would U YUJU. So there definitively were some fun things while we waited. Then in January the next year, with this banger of a poster announcement, her solo career kicked off proper - finally. 1st EP: REC She came in the door like a hurricane with her debut EP, REC. The title track, 'Play' was a dark, ethereal and sultry song showcasing much of her vocal range and flavour. It wove in traditional Korean elements like gayageum instrumentals over a hip-hop beat, and featured modernized hanboks in the MV. Seeing her solo debut stage on M Countdown was sort of mind-blowing at the time, and really made it clear that she already had a distinct soloist voice. The whole EP was themed around anger and hurt cooling off into acceptance. Red fading into blue. The theme was visually represented with a gradient between the two colors, and thematically implemented in the track sequence. Going from the fiery red, rocky Bad Blood intro, into the soft, somber ballad Blue Nostalgia. Also reflected in the two album versions, Take 1 and Take 2, each based on one of the colors. It's hard not to think the album is about - at least in part - the hurt stemming from the abrupt end to GFRIEND, and the callous and cold treatment she and her groupmates received from their company. As the album progresses though, the sentiment shifts from anger and hurt to reflection about the good times. Track List: 1: Bad Blood (Intro) 2: Play (title) 3: Cold Winter (ft. Mad Clown) 4: The Killa 5: Blue Nostalgia For the album, she got to work with two different veteran producer teams. MZMC and his crew, and Konnect's in-house producers mentioned above. Yuju would also go on to contribute Korean lyrics for MZMC on an external project. She co-composed all the tracks on the album sans one, and co-wrote the lyrics for everything. Chancellor has also been around for forever, being one half of the producer duo Duble Sidekick. So getting to work so closely with him seemed like a great learning experience for her. There's some fantastic behind-the-scene footage of the two finalizing Play. Cold Winter in particular was mainly penned by Yuju, and was an idea she started playing with during her time in GFRIEND - that she now got the chance to polish and release. She also brought in legendary rapper Mad Clown as a feature, to represent the other character in the song's story. She had previously worked with him once in a stage performance of his track Fire. The Killa was more groovy and even sorta sexy, with Latin electric guitar and some semi-rap-singing, and a really seductive vocal performance. She also announced her own fandom name LUVU a little while after the comeback. Some fun things to mention from the REC promotions: The lethal performance video for The Killa. The ballad version of Play from Begin Again Her episode of Jessi's Shotwerview and this supercut of raw vocals from it. 1st Single: Evening (ft. BIG Naughty) Next up was the soft and chill summertime digital single Evening, about the start of a new romance. Again with a new rapper collab. Not too much to say about this one, but it's sorta funny that the first time Yuju and Naughty met in person, was minutes before their It's Live stage, which was recorded before they even made the MV. The nervous energy is palpable, and really cute. This also marked Yuju's first time on It's Live. This time she didn't go the music show route, but opted to promote the song on various singing and variety shows, like A Call From The Nation and Sing In The Green. 2nd EP: O Her second EP was a softer, more emotional look back at her years in the music field since debut, and her relationship music in general. The album opens with the former, with the soft semi-acoustic track 9 Years, telling of her musical journey since debut. The latter is mainly explored in the powerful title track ballad Without U, in an allegory of a past relationship. The album explores a lot of conflicting feelings, but ultimately ends on a positive note, with the happy, chanty sing-along song Full Circle. It's a very honest and heartfelt album on the whole, with - in my opinion at least - her most impressive vocal performances to date. The title track MV also had many fun little easter-eggs to read into for GFRIEND fans. She's made it clear we don't know to expect going forward, neither with vibe or sound. There's clearly a lot she wants to try out. Track List: 1: 9 Years 2: Without U (title) 3: Dreaming 4: Peach Blossom (ft. Sokodomo) 5: Full Circle For the second album outing, she penned 2 of the songs on her own, co-composed 1, and was the sole lyricist on the album. Except for this album's featured rapper, Sokodomo, who wrote his own part. She did a short stint of music show promotions, with the whimsical Peach Blossom as a promoted bside. Sokodomo even turned up on stage, with some light 'flirty choreo' which got Yuju scolded by GFRIEND group mate SinB. Again she worked with the MZMC crew, who composed Without U and Dreaming. Dreaming gives us both extremes of her range, from sultry low vocals, going into 'whistle note' territory. Just a gorgeous showcase of the power and agility she has. Something great from all her eras under Konnect was how much behind the scenes footage we got. Tons of raw vocals from the recording sessions. I particularly love the recording of Without U, where we get so many different takes, laying down vocal harmonies, and get to see all the frustrations and joys of creating music. Her old Konnect Youtube channel is filled with English-subbed videos like tha, if that's your cup of tea. Other notable things from this comeback cycle: Her soft Asian Spotlight performance video of 9 Years, with her on guitar. The solo version of Peach Blossom from Picnic Live. Full Circle from Picnic Live. The Peach Blossom Art Film. Without U on It's Live. 2nd Single: DALALA The next release was a lot more lighthearted and fun, even with a charming mid-video skit in the MV. DALALA was a song that came to her while walking around Gangnam Station, inspired by the snippets of songs you'll hear when passing by shops and restaurants. The song is about being carefree, and losing yourself in the music. The song wasn't promoted much beyond its dance challenge, but received a proper full choreo this winter (along with Peach Blossom) - and has been a staple in her concert stages since. We even got her first official dance practice video. She got producing help on the track by Shintaro Yasuda, who previously worked on Full Circle. A cool tidbit from this era is how much Heize loved and praised the song. She and Yuju have since been in talks about collaborating - which is a very exciting prospect. There's another super interesting behind the scenes video for this era, showing a ton of the process - and how much Yuju stresses about having to speak English with Shintaro! The end of Konnect Ent: In May of 2023, news broke that Konnect had been defrauded by their major shareholder, and as a result would end up shutting their doors. Yuju and the rest of the artists, including Kang Daniel, did not re-sign their contracts, and the company began the dissolving process. While Konnect certainly weren't flawless, and maybe missed some opportunities here and there, the growth Yuju got to experience as an artist and songwriter under them cannot be overstated. And she seemed to be very happy and at home the whole time. It felt like Kang Daniel made a really warm and creative little family, and it's a shame it all ended how it did. It's worth mentioning she also worked on a degree in contemporary music composition during this time, which is likely part of why she wasn't more active. But we did end up with 2 wonderful EPs, 2 digital singles, and a lot of collaboration. But yeah, history repeated itself in a way, and - while definitely richer in experience and connections - she was sadly back to step one, with another abrupt contract termination. After the fact, things understandably slowed down. Although we did get a feature on Kid Wine's It's Not That I Don't Love You, and a surprise appearance on the performance of Sweaty, at RAP:PUBLIC. She also performed at some festivals and award shows towards the end of the year. Some of her time that fall was also spent preparing the GFRIEND reunion. Lastly, some other fun things that took place during the Konnect days, and after the shutdown: She was invited to perform on K-909 Vocal Queens. Here's a supercut of her singing 'Four Seasons', 'Evening Sky' and 'I Will Go To You Like The First Snow'. Her performing on the 3rd gen K-pop vocal queens episode of Hello82's Secret Duet, where she and Oh My Girl's Hyojung sang Taylor Swift's Afterglow together. The occasional short form covers posted on Instagram, like her cover of NewJeans' Ditto, or her mini-cover of DAWN's Dear My Light. You have to wonder if that last one is how she got on Area's radar in the first place. Her feature on Babylon's 'Destiny'. Her collaboration project with producer PATEKO, No Way, where they held a contest to find the male counterpart to the duet, won by the incredible I'MIN. Her feature on Kid Wine's It's Not That I Don't Love You, another amazing soloist she undoubtedly got in touch with via her project with PATEKO. Her collaboration with LeeWoo, Happiness Index where we got some of those bright 'early GFRIEND' style vocals. More recently, this great collab song with Kwon Soonkwan, ‘I Hope It’s Not The End’(https://youtu.be/ThdPBcYeD_w). Covers and OSTs: Before we come to the current day, I'd like to shed some light on a couple of her covers and OST work. On occasion Yuju will release a well-produced cover, where she plays with vocal layering and always puts her own tinge on the songs. It's not very often, but it's always so polished when she does. Taking her time and doing it right is a recurring theme with her. She's done this since the early days though, so we've gathered up a few! Here's some of her best covers: Yoru Ni Kakeru (orig. Yoasobi) To. X (orig. Taeyeon) Out Of Time (orig. The Weeknd) Downtown Baby (orig. BLOO) Santa tell me (orig. Ariana Grande) Speechless (orig. Naomi Scott) Back In Time (orig. LYN) Then there's the OSTs. It's been such a steady source of gigs for her, continuing even in the periods between agencies. While most have been your standard-fare ballady tracks, there’s definitely been stand-outs! In addition to the ones we've already mentioned, a big one was Secret for the show Alice, where she really got to flex her voice in the final chorus. It's a bit more dark and dramatic than the rest. For the softer ones, the best of the best I think are Run On's Falling, and Police University's Stay, where she had such warm, comforting and beautiful vocal performances. In 2022 she got to sing on the soundtrack for her GFRIEND co-member Sowon's acting debut in My Chilling Roommate. It was even her character's theme song, Tell Me This Is Real, and it was extra special in that Sowon herself requested Yuju to sing it. But Spring Is Gone By Chance is still by far her biggest OST hit. In fact it's become so iconic in Korea, it sees a resurgence on the Melon chart every spring without fail. Like a mini version of that ‘Mariah Carey All I Want For Christmas phenomenon’. And Yuju's performed it in all sorts of festivals and shows over the years. In 2022, MNET did an episode of the MCD vocal challenge, where they invited a bunch of different idols to perform it with her, which was a lot of fun. And this year she also got to re-write it into a solo version, and release it as an OST for the show Way Back Love. GFRIEND reunion, and signing with At Area In January this year, GFRIEND reunited to celebrate their 10th anniversary, and gave us a special single album, and a reunion tour. While Yuju was a bit unlucky with getting the flu for some of the promotion, like their Killing Voice apperance and tour, she still seemed to love every second of being back with her members, and getting to meet the fans again. I'm just amazed she sounds that good while sick to be honest. She did get to strut her stuff when they were invited to perform on KBS' The Seasons though, where they performed Me Gustas Tu band version, Rough ballad version, and the new track Season Of Memories. And that brings us to this new exciting era at At Area, a smaller hip-hop focused company run by the producer duo Groovyroom. Which was a company which felt very out of left field for many when the announcement came. But any fears quickly faded when they showed they have no intentions of pushing her in any specific direction - and seem interested in pursuing the music she wants to do. Once again she showed us we can't expect where she'll go stylistically or musically. In the announcement photoshoot, she showed off her new electric guitar, along with a whole new vibe, and promised us the new album was already well underway. Seemingly now with a focus on indie rock - at least for this particular album. I think she'd made it clear she won't stick to any one lane, which is very exciting! And then all of a sudden, she was back on stage, popping up here and there. She got a great feature in the show Workaction where we got many great insights into her new company life, and got some great recording footage. There's a great block in the beginning of the episode there! And she started performing on festivals such as Waterbomb - and she even started teasing the tracks from the new album. So we knew it was close! 3rd Mini Album: In Bloom And that leaves us at the present. She's back in action, and the 3rd EP is at the current time just days away. Once again it looks like we're treated to an introspective album reflecting on her years in the business. With the concept teasers being part blooming flowers, part her covered in bruises, it's hard not to relate the theme to her history of picking herself back up and plowing on. You'll have to risk a few blooming bruises if you yourself want to blossom - which is a really nice sentiment. All these themes, coupled with her involvement in the writing clearly show the time and effort she puts into her music. This time around she has sole credits on all the lyrics, and composition credits on half the tracks. The album sampler was released the other day, and we've got 6 great new tracks to look forward to! The absolute banger that is the title track Reply, and more rocky vibes in the b-sides. As well as a more whimsical 'Peach Blossom' coded track, and the more city-poppy Orion. And her first fully English track, No Matter, which promises to be more risqué than her previous songs, which is apparently why she felt more comfortable writing it in English. The promotion cycle has sort of kicked off already. She recently popped up on the singing show of her B:MY BOYZ co-mentor HUI, and covered some of GFRIEND's old hits, and talked a bit about her growth as a musician. It also looks like she'll go on Moonbyul's show, and she's confirmed to appear on M Countdown. This coming Monday we get the MV teaser, and the next day - after a 2 year wait - the new album's here. And I for one am very excited! So, there we go. That's GFRIEND's main vocal, and the unstoppable singer-songwriter soloist Yuju. The weird, tenacious, kind, talented, hard-working, beautiful and weird singer. And some of the cool stuff she's been up to over the years. I did skip a fair amount of releases, shows and especially performances in this post, as there's just so many to choose from. This is just her best work according to this random internet guy - so I'm sorry if I skipped anyone else's favorites! If so, please feel free to share them in the comments! If you made it all the way through this post, I hope you found a nugget or two to enjoy in there, and that you'll maybe take a moment to check out her upcoming album. It's been a long time coming, and she's seemingly put a crazy amount of herself, time, and energy into doing it the right way! Personally I think she's got a one of a kind voice, and the talent, work ethic and passion to do big things, and so I selfishly hope this next chapter is a major success, and that she'll be able to continue serving us with bangers for years to come. You may not feel as strongly as I do about her voice - but I think it's hard to deny she's a very talented singer, with some great songwriting prospects. She's already got such a legacy behind her. She's already been part of massive kpop hits, and has performed on some of the biggest year end stages and collaborations. But I feel like we've only seen the start of her musical journey, and I think she's got way more cool tricks up her sleeve. And I'm not just talking about the weird ones. Thanks for reading, and I'll see you on Tuesday - hopefully! Yuju hwaiting. 🫡 submitted by /u/pornypete [link] [comments]

I just saw more footage of bodyguards shoving crowds around an airport and fans cheering about it, and it made me want to review the 2022 incident at ICN airport because that's REAL BAD crowd control. The first I heard about this was that an idol was almost trampled by fans. I expected this to be exaggerated, and was surprised to see it was actually an insanely close call when i saw the clips: here https://youtu.be/tjcmm2V0Y6o?si=VL1ausDXdMnUG5ys To start off, there is no such thing as a good crowd or a bad crowd, there's only good or bad crowd CONTROL. Crowds need to be handled like a body of water: never assumgonna be rational, it will only go where it is directed, you need to have proper infrastructure in place. When you don't direct a crowd appropriately, crowds will be destructive. The only argument should be over whether or not crowds should be allowed, but once one has been allowed, no single person in the crowd is at fault. They can only go with the tide. So, the crowd was initially held to the side, away from the doors, to take photos as the members entered. So far, so good. https://preview.redd.it/5px2qx7pbuhf1.png?width=652&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f81b9be7d1f1137fb2cb7bf3f42f2d24417707e The body guards and staff were mostly in the front of the group. I believe someone saw the majority of the body guards move inside and thought that included all of the members. The crowd was released and allowed to follow the members into the airport, from behind. However, there were still three members entering the airport: Yuta, Jungwoo, and Doyoung. Now we have a bottleneck. https://preview.redd.it/p3jkmbssbuhf1.png?width=652&format=png&auto=webp&s=26771b0d2c69e43761182e552c8cfc4475d37705 At the entrance, the members had to go single file to get through the door due to the rush, that skinny guy Doyoung coming up last. https://preview.redd.it/7ylgkjtwbuhf1.png?width=459&format=png&auto=webp&s=fd3705e6a0f273b66e898fc38f36571bc6cc05ba Still fine as long as everyone keeps cool and doesn't get overly aggressive.... oh wait. The bodyguards, who had been shoving people away, either didn't realize members were coming up from behind and started shoving fans/photographers behind them, or there was a cascading effect when they shoved one to the side. But either way, they shoved a fan away who crashed into this camera guy. The camera guy collapsed into Doyoung, and he fell. This is worse case scenario and could've meant very serious injuries or worse. Doyoung was on the ground with the crowd coming from BEHIND. https://preview.redd.it/xjfcl860cuhf1.png?width=337&format=png&auto=webp&s=fcef1398045c7b3a47c5a7dd61cafd9fe2822e76 One fan almost stepped on him and had to step OVER him to keep from trampling him. From this it's clear there were two major points of failure: the airport released the fans too early and the body guards aggressive, sloppy crowd control. Yeah, just shoving someone away solves an immediate problem... but it can cause a bigger issue and isn't good crowd control in a situation like this. It's lazy and passing the buck on, and you won't be able to stop what happens next in a crowd this big. The rest of the bodyguards ahead of Doyoung are just watching, unable to do anything about it when the crowd starts moving OVER the person they were supposed to protect. Frustrating to see and silly fans cheer this behavior on. Should the crowd stay home? Sure, but there were people who were hired to keep the situation safe and instead operated like they were playing a game of hockey. submitted by /u/gotgainsx [link] [comments]

https://preview.redd.it/drky263ycuhf1.jpg?width=714&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=946b751e89e1d4247f5a1c9b878072eb5d55c356 So with all of the megagroup stuff going around… I thought I’d go have y’all poll someone k-pop idols into a Hunger Games Randomizer. Yesterday I did District 1, you reaped ROSÉ from BLACKPINK, Wendy from Red Velvet, and V and Jungkook from BTS. I am setting the “name” to the idol’s government name, but the “nickname” that usually appears when you actually run the simulator is set to their stage name. (However, ROSÉ is “ROSIE” because the simulator doesn’t allow the special characters for the É.) I will use 2nd Quarter Quell rules (48 players, 2 boys 2 girls for each of the 12 districts). For each district I have a pool of female and male idols to choose from to ensure group variety. I more or less randomly assigned what I believed to be 12-ish popular girl and boy groups to the districts, merging small groups or adding a couple soloists to pad numbers out and make the chances of a specific member of a large group being chosen more fair. Here’s a link to the masterdoc with the rule specifications. I’m not requiring you to read this but it’s recommended. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DB95TAjnpEU97Dous1kPkPtENfc4lJeffZOTknLXcg8/edit?usp=drivesdk I intend this to be just for fun, don’t take it too seriously, don’t send hate, it’s just a “what if”. (Oh, and to keep it interesting, try to vote for who you think will do well or at least create drama, play as if you, the fandom, are the district citizens.) Single comment with the most upvotes wins. Separate idols so it’s 1 mention per comment, making it easier to see where the votes are going. (You can comment multiple times to pick multiple idols.) Try not to repeat idols and keep discussion in the replies under their first mention. Full Cast: District 1 Girls: BLACKPINK, Red Velvet Boys: BTS District 2 Girls: ITZY, Lee Chaeyeon (former IZ*ONE), former IOI soloists: Jeon Somi & Chungha Boys: GOT7 District 3 Girls: Dreamcatcher Boys: ENHYPEN District 4 Girls: NMIXX Boys: TNX, P1Harmony District 5 Girls: LE SSERAFIM, former IZ*ONE soloists except Chaeryeong’s sister: Jo Yuri, Kwon Eunbi, Yena Boys: TXT, XLOV District 6 Girls: IVE Boys: MONSTA X District 7 Girls: BABYMONSTER Boys: TREASURE District 8 Girls: MAMAMOO, i-dle Boys: ATEEZ District 9 Girls: TWICE Boys: Stray Kids District 10 Girls: æspa, STAYC Boys: xikers District 11 Girls: Kep1er Boys: ZEROBASEONE District 12 Girls: LOONA Boys: SEVENTEEN For two small groups combined, I will enforce one member from each group. For small group + soloists, I will allow 2 group members or 2 soloists if you guys want it that way. I will not stop a resurfaced ex-member (ie Soojin, Wonho, Mashiro and Yeseo, etc) from being reaped if the fandom wants to bring them up and vote them in. Today is for District 2. For the girls, the reaping pool is the ITZY members, Lee Chaeyeon, and former IOI soloists Jeon Somi and Chungha. For the boys, the reaping pool is GOT7. (It made more sense in my head to put Chaeyeon in the same district as her sister instead of with the other former IZ*ONE soloists.) submitted by /u/541Y0K4G3J1R0 [link] [comments]

We got 4/5 members revealed in that iconic hello Fifty fifty trailer. What have been your favorite songs or moments with these lovely girls ? Fav songs for me : Starry Night and Heart Break Fav Moment : recently it’s Keena’s bday video or their when you say my name Keena video. submitted by /u/Moonlighteverafter [link] [comments]

It's been one year since this dropped. Since their reformation Fifty Fifty have gone on to release 2 Mini Albums, Tour the US, perform globally and have achieved a mini Hit with their recent title track Pookie which peaked in the top 40s of The Melon Top 100. We can also talk about their physical sales crossing 100,000. Have you listened to the new fifty fifty ? Comparisons are inevitable. Did you change your mind through out this past year? Gravity, Pookie are very sonically different from Lovin' me and Higher which were songs that grabbed alot of attention. Their International streaming isn't bad but alot of it is still carried by Cupid (still their Spotify monthly listeners aren't bad and their songs are still getting streamed). Korea is definitely their biggest supporter so far. Another discussion to be had is soon this group will have been Fifty Fifty Longer than the previous iteration. Which opens up the impact vs legacy argument, which group is the "real Fifty Fifty"? What are your thoughts ? submitted by /u/TheSirenSounds [link] [comments]

I realized posting "your top 5 most played kpop songs" that yes I do love those but those aren't THE songs. It's like I only play my absolute favorites when I need to hear something that good, maybe so I don't get tired of it? Not to say you don't play songs you like on repeat, I absolutely do, but not my most favorite. submitted by /u/Excellent-Passage-36 [link] [comments]

Pick any letter from A to Z and I will tell you my favourite song title which starts with that letter. If there are several songs which I love almost the same, I will answer separately so that it can be upvoted. If I don't have the song for the certain letter, you can suggest me one) submitted by /u/TheOnlyHarlemShinobi [link] [comments]

Source: https://www.billboard.com/pro/stray-kids-dominate-world-tour-k-pop-boxscore-records/?taid=689636777c47c500014b957f The Dominate Tour ended in Rome on July 30th. After almost 1 entire year of tour and 54 concerts, reports are finally starting to come out about it's success. Billboard just published an article about the reported shows of the tour, so far 31/54. The biggest highlights being: Biggest European leg of any K-pop acts in history - 8 shows. 391K attendance. $64.5M revenue. Bestselling and highest grossing North American leg of any K-pop tour - 13 shows. 491K attendance. $76.2M revenue. Bestselling and highest-grossing tour leg in Latin America of any K-pop tour. - 8 shows. 361K attendance. $41.1M revenue. Sold 1.3M tickets across Latin America, North America, Europe, and Hong Kong with $186M revenue (31/54 reported shows; via Billboard) I can not wait to see the full report of all the shows by at least Touring Data, but I am beyond proud of Stray Kids growth and I feel like it is even more special with them being a self-produced group. At the end of the day, charts, streams and awards are all important but nothing is more impactful than touring power. submitted by /u/No-Bookkeeper-5813 [link] [comments]

Giselle (aespa) won for pink hair ! (comment had 43 upvotes) If you have more than one idol you’d like to mention , please separate the comments ! Comment with the highest amount of upvotes wins ! submitted by /u/Opening_Chemist_3730 [link] [comments]

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Tysm for everyone who participated of this game! 💞 Key from Shinee won as the male idol with the best MULTICOLORED hair with 56 upvotes! submitted by /u/ExtensionStation6334 [link] [comments]

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Atinys have put their full force on putting Captain! My Captain!, Hongjoong for the top spot. Followed closely by Seungmin in second place, rightfully taking one of the hall of fame spot. In the female category, Dubu Dahyun and Cunty Bob Chaewon claimed first and second place, respectively. Congratulations to the winners! A reminder that I should not mess with Atinys and Stays in this sub. LMAO. That concludes our voting for your favorite idols with the most common Korean surnames. Thank you for your nominations and participation. It was fun! Runner ups: Female: 🥉 Kim Yerim (Yeri) - 39 upvotes 🏅 Kim Minji (JiU)- 15 upvotes Male: 🥉 Kim Namjoon (RM) - 110 upvotes 🏅 Kim Mingyu - 82 upvotes My source for the top Korean surnames. submitted by /u/OptionSpare718 [link] [comments]

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I have seen a couple of katseyes live shows in america and they are talented asf and good performers but there is always something lacking in my opinion. They stand in the middle of the stage and dance alone with no background dancers and no other special effects going on and it makes it seem like a dance group on youtube doing cover of the fav artists in a mall. Im not sure if im missing something maybe because they just debuted or what but I dont understand how bighit, a multi million dollar company, cant invest in some more background dancers and a bit more jazz to their live performances in america. Why does it have to be so bland???? submitted by /u/Ok-Trip8363 [link] [comments]