Who is the most hated vs loved member inside and outside your fandom?

This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

The subreddit is mostly uncensored as long as people follow the rules. Generalizing statement about Korea, Korean society, etc or most other countries are not acceptable except under the following standards: The only claims that are acceptable when generalizing Korean society in this sub are those that bring up generalizable stastical claims by the standards of the international statistics institute. Not only do the vast majority of stastistics you can find on the internet about Korea not up to this minimum, basic standard but this requirement includes having ample sample size, blocking by relevant demographics and sometimes even double blind tests. So if you make a generalizing claim, your wording must be properly formatted and links to the relevant studies provided. In other words, the standard for making a generalization is very high in this sub. Not to mention the wording for your claim has to be properly made. Anyone who has taken a college level statistics class will know what I am talking about and we may even require you to provide the confidence level interval if it's relevant for your study. If you cannot meet these standards, I would just avoid doing it in general. submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

I saw someone do this and it looks like a lot of fun! Comment your most hated song and I’ll rate it from 1-10 Note: no hating on artists please let’s keep this fun submitted by /u/mintdiamondsky [link] [comments]

I’m honestly just curious about this. I’ve seen idols play guitar—and I am interested to find out which idols are known to be good guitarists!—but are there idols who can play, like, the clarinet? Idols having random side-quest skills is one of my favorite things. TIA!! submitted by /u/barbiethebuilder [link] [comments]

Under South Korean law, adulthood starts at 19. At the time of the incident, the victim was 18 years old, so legally still a minor under the Act on the Protection of Children and Youth Against Sexual Offenses. The perpetrator, on the other hand, was 46. In terms of Korean age—which has no legal standing—the victim would have been considered 20, so socially seen as an adult. But legally, they were still underage, meaning the punishment will naturally be aggravated (this was even mentioned during the victim’s lawyer’s press conference). He’s f**ked. submitted by /u/Embarrassed_Clue1758 [link] [comments]

Under South Korean law, adulthood starts at 19. At the time of the incident, the victim was 18 years old, so legally still a minor under the Act on the Protection of Children and Youth Against Sexual Offenses. The perpetrator, on the other hand, was 46. In terms of Korean age—which has no legal standing—the victim would have been considered 20, so socially seen as an adult. But legally, they were still underage, meaning the punishment will naturally be aggravated (this was even mentioned during the victim’s lawyer’s press conference). He’s f**ked. submitted by /u/Embarrassed_Clue1758 [link] [comments]

I just got into K-Pop a year ago and already, my playlist is over forty hours long. I obviously like all the songs on it but I was feeling impatient and growing tired of the "bad" (bad in terms of the playlist, not in general) songs coming on. So I decided to make a playlist of only my favourite songs and best songs that I would never skip. I put it on shuffle over the next week, super excited knowing there is an 100% banger guarentee and I... hated it. You love your favorites because you enjoy the most out of any song, that is literally what favorite means. So when you take away the other songs, your favorites lose their impact. This is a reminder to enjoy and appreciate all songs on your playlist and that will lead to you enjoying and loving your favorites even more. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

This will be my first K-pop concert, so I really want it to feel worth the money, especially since I'll be traveling to see them. l've been a Monsta X fan for a long time, and l've listened to TWICE for almost as long, even though I don't know as many of their songs. What matters most to me in a concert experience is: Are they actually singing? The quality of the performance The energy and passion they bring The visuals on stage Also, I don’t want to insult anyone or stir up fanwars, that's not what I’m here to do. submitted by /u/Yes_she_foreignn [link] [comments]

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📊 Top 5 BG per gen and their highest charting based on the vid: Highest views = ★ 2nd gen BIGBANG - 14 MVs total #1 Fantastic Baby (2012) 644M 2 Bang Bang Bang (2015) 801M ★ Super Junior - 8 MVs total 1 Bonamana (2010) 160M 1 Mr Simple (2011) 248M ★ SHINee - 4 MVs total 1 Ring Ding Dong (2009) 185M ★ Beast/Highlight - 7 MVs total 2 Fiction (2011) 151M ★ 2PM - 4 MVs total 4 Hands Up (2011) 92M ★ 3rd gen BTS - 29 MVs total #1 No More Dream (2013) 339M #1 Boy in Luv (2014) 531M #1 Dope (2015) 1B #1 Fire (2016) 1.2B #1 DNA (2017) 1.6 B #1 IDOL (2018) 1.3 B #1 Boy with Love (2019) 1.8B #1 Dynamite (2020) 2B ★ 1 Butter (2021) 1B EXO - 13 MVs total 2 Growl (2013) 239M 3 Love Shots (2018) 651M ★ GOT7 - 9 MVs total 3 Just Right (2015) 448M ★ Seventeen - 8 MVs total 6 Don't Wanna Cry (2017) 304M ★ 2 Maestro (2024) 104M NCT - 9 MVs total 5 Dream's Boom (2019) 173M 7 U's Make a Wish (2020) 297M ★ 4th gen Stray Kids - 17 MVs total #5 God's Menu (2020) 534M ★ #1 Maniac (2022) 314M #1 Lalalala (2023) 285M 1 Chk Chk Boom (2024) 177M TXT - 9 MVs total 8 Blue Hour (2020) 206M ★ 3 Deja Vu (2024) 76M Enhypen - 5 MVs total 4 Bite Me (2023) 171M ★ Ateez - 5 MVs total 6 Bouncy (2023) 148M★ 4 Ice on My Teeth (2025) 85M Treasure - 4 MVs total 5 Jikjin (2022) 148M ★ 1 Paradise (2025) 71M 5th gen ZB1 - 2 MVs total 5 Iconik (2025) 51M ★ BND - 2 MVs total 8 If I Say, I Love You (2025) 42M ★ Riize - 1 MV total 6 Fly Up (2025) 50M ★ My take: BTS is outlier BigBang, Exo, GOT7 and Skz appears in every year they have comebacks proving they're dominating during their time. I love how 2nd and 3rd gen are more variety in genre (Missing the time when ballad can be mainstream hits) This chart might not represent the most popular songs that year but it's cool seeing groups that still manage to gain views even after their prime. The views are fairly organic during 2nd gen until 2017 when kpop fandom start to mass streaming and by 2023, a lot of fandom has switch to Spotify thus the MV views in general has decrease. To give more accurate on what MV were popular for each year; the most viewed MV in 2009 was Sorry Sorry by Super Junior, 2013 and 2014 was Growl and Overdose by Exo, and 2015 was Bang Bang Bang by BigBang. The rest are fairly accurate. submitted by /u/Personal_Damage6616 [link] [comments]

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I’ve used both for years, and I’ve come to a firm conclusion. YT Music is the superior platform compared to Spotify. Both have their UI issues, so I won’t get into that. The biggest and most important difference between the two is their shuffling algorithm and YT Music completely clears Spotify in that regard. I don’t know who modeled Spotify’s algorithm, but it’s just not good, it's SO basic. YT Music, on the other hand, actually caters to your taste much better and gives solid recommendations, something I can’t say for Spotify. I’ve discovered so many songs and artists through YT Music that I never would have found on Spotify. Another huge plus is that you can add videos and unofficial released songs on YT Music. I love me some great covers idols have done. Oh, and no ads on YT is nice too. When it comes to Kpop, I’d give the upper hand to YT Music. What about you guys? Which platform do you usually listen on? I’d love to hear different opinions on this. submitted by /u/Acrobatic_Prize_7749 [link] [comments]

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