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Why its hard for nugu groups to survive nowadays?

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13 or 15 yrs ago, I think its more easier for nugu groups to survive in 2nd/3rd gen era (if im not mistaken). Im not into kpop scenes as much as before, but can somebody tell me why nowadays its hard for nugu idols/groups to survive? Is it because the oversaturation in kpop industry? Or is it because big companies keep debuting newer groups...? I appreciate all insights & thoughts. TQ 😊 submitted by /u/LazyProfile2945 [link] [comments]

14.218. I really hate the fact that kpop gets unnecessary hate

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I’ve seen some people explain why they hate kpop so much and it’s always the same crap “i cant understand the lyrics” Like, ofc you cant! ITS IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE “they all look like girls/ they all look the same” NO THEY FRICKING DONT. if you actaully cared to look at their faces and see the differences, you wouldn’t think that. Stop being racist. Also, there are idols that aren’t asian, so you’re just being rude to them “the music sucks!” Okay, and? It just doesn’t suit your taste, saying it sucks is exaggerating “the guys wear make up, it looks gay/ they act gay”. Do i even need to explain this? EVERY CELEBRITY WEARS MAKE UP. And also, they do not “act gay”, they are just showing their affection toward each other, and stop being homophobic “they have no talent” THEY DO. why do you think kpop got so popular? They can rap, sing, and dance perfectly fine. In fact, they are amazing at it. They can dance perfectly synchronized too “the fans are unhinged” not all of them are tho? Stop judging the entirety of the fanbase based on a small part of the fandom. Everyone is different. People should rly stop hating on kpop for no apparent reason submitted by /u/Beautiful-Vast7545 [link] [comments]

14.219. The "Early Gen 3 Girl Groups" Rate!

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Hello everyone! We are excited to take a trip back in time to revisit some K-Pop classics once again, continuing with this rate, the "Early Gen 3" Girl Groups Rate! (If you haven't already, make sure to join r/kpoprates to ensure that you stay updated on future rate-related posts!) Quick Links: Ballot submission: Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot // Ballot template (Google Docs ver.) // Ballot template (Pastebin) Playlists: Spotify // Youtube (Audio ver.) // Youtube (Lyrics ver.) // Youtube (MV ver.) Deadline: July 7th (Monday), 11:59 Pacific (Link to a timezone converter) How the songs were selected: We used the /r/kpop Top Ten Tuesdays results to grab the most adored songs from each of the artists on Reddit, and we also had a songlist feedback survey on /r/kpoprates to help decide the songlist! Now, without further ado, let's introduce the 55 songs (& 7 bonus songs) that were selected for this rate, ordered chronologically for each artist (artists were also ordered by debut date): . Spica: Russian Roulette You Don’t Love Me EXID: Every Night Up & Down Ah Yeah Hot Pink Night Rather Than Day DDD I Love You HelloVenus: Wiggle Wiggle I’m ill Mysterious Crayon Pop: Bar Bar Bar AOA: Miniskirt Short Hair Like a Cat Heart Attack Good Luck 10 Seconds Excuse Me FIESTAR: One More You’re Pitiful Ladies’ Code: Pretty Pretty Galaxy The Rain BESTie: Love Options Excuse me Mamamoo: Piano Man You’re the Best DĂ©calcomanie Starry Night Egotistic Wind Flower Gogobebe HIP Laboum: Journey to Atlantis Hwi Hwi Lovelyz: Ah-Choo Destiny WoW! Now, We That Day Sonamoo: Friday Night GFriend: Me Gustas Tu Rough Navillera Fingertip Time For The Moon Night Apple Mago Brave Girls: Deepened Rollin’ We Ride Chi Mat Ba Ram After We Ride . Bonus Rate: The bonus rate is basically an extension of the main rate! There were several songs that received high praise during the songlist feedback survey that still were barely not able to make the main rate, so we have put them into the bonus rate here to give them a chance to be rated. . EXID - Lady HelloVenus - Venus Crayon Pop - FM Fiestar - Mirror Ladies’ Code - Bad Girl Laboum - Between Us GFriend - Labyrinth . The Bonus Rate is optional and you do not have to submit a score for every song in the bonus list if you do it: you can score none of them, all of them, or any number in between. You cannot give a 0 or 11 to any song in the bonus, as they are not part of the main rate. While it is optional, we hope you consider participating. Spotify playlist YouTube playlist (MV version) YouTube playlist (Audio version) YouTube playlist (Lyrics version) Rules: You must listen to and assign a score to EVERY song listed. If your ballot is missing any scores it will not be eligible and you'll be sent a message asking you to fill in the missing scores. Each song should be assigned a score between 1 to 10. Decimals up to one point are allowed but any further is a no-no – 6.9 is fine, but 6.99 is not. You can use ONE 0 and ONE 11 for the entirety of the rate, for your least favorite and most favorite song respectively - they are optional but HIGHLY encouraged if you feel some type of way about any given song! Comments are also encouraged but not required for such scores (except if you give a song a 0). Comments are encouraged and much appreciated (but not required, except for if you give a 0) and can be added to any song by simply typing after the numerical score, like so: Hip: 2.4 Ofc the title track that utilizes Mamamoo's vocal power the least ends up becoming the most popular (yells angrily at cloud) This is the ONLY correct way to format a comment. Please do not include colons (ex. 9: I stan!), dashes (ex. 3.3 - This song sucks), or any other symbol after your score/before your comment as it breaks the program. You can also give comments for individual artists! Just write your comment after the :, such as the following: EXID: Are they pronounced like "exit" or are you supposed to say every letter separately? I'll never know For this rate and most future rates, we have a ballot average minimum of 4.00. In addition, if your ballot average is between 4.00-5.50, you must leave comments on your lower scores (which we define as any score that's a 3 or lower). {Do not worry about having to calculate your ballot average, once you submit your ballot, we will tell you if you need to make changes to your ballot for it to be accepted.} SUBMITTING A BALLOT: * Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot As Reddit is (unfortunately) moving away from the private messaging system in favor of utilizing the Reddit chat system, we are forced to also adopt the Reddit chat system for messaging. You can make a copy of either the Google Docs or Pastebin ballot templates below, add your scores on your local copy/file, and send the link to your local copy/file in your Reddit Chat message to u/KpopRates_Ghost. * Google Docs ballot template * Pastebin ballot template Google spreadsheet template that you can use to calculate averages, record scores, and make predictions Alternatively, if you have Discord, you can message the link to your ballot to both the rate hosts, @Zypker124 and @aidshha. You can also submit the top/bottom 5 prediction form at any time. DUE DATE: Monday, July 7th, by 11:59 PM Pacific - This will be the FINAL deadline, no extensions will be given this time! (Here is a link to a time zone converter for the deadline.) REVEAL DATES (Reveals will take place on /r/kpoprates as well as the KpopRates Discord: https://discord.gg/4YY2ksBbT6) Day 1 - July 12th (Saturday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) Day 2 - July 13th (Sunday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) submitted by /u/kpoprates_ghost [link] [comments]

14.220. Megathread 22: HYBE / ADOR / MHJ - We reach one year of the dispute, All legal cases settle into a slow procedural pace, and More

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This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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14.221. Trump supporters and their fellow racists will be immediately banned.

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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

14.222. New Post Flairs: 'Connect' and 'Research' are now available!

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Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

1. ALL ARIES GG: [Day 1: VISUAL] READ DESCRIPTION B4 VOTING

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PLEASE đŸ„č🙏 ONLY VOTE BY using the COMMENT'S BUTTONS on the GIFS I'm uploading in the comment section. If someone wasn't mentioned YET, it's because I'm uploading the gif. If 15 mins passed since I did the post, and you still don't see the person you wanna vote for, please comment their name and group with a Gif or pic, but, PLEASE, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT REPEATED. (They must be ARIES) Some people might not appear since they were a cusp between 2 signs, so I'll make a new category for cusp idols later. I doubled check every possible cusp idol by using the earliest and latest birth times, using their year and location to make sure everyone falls into the right category (sign). I'm Unlocking a new category Everyday 🌟 submitted by /u/Pipisito [link] [comments]

2. Can riize's international presence ever bounce back from the Seunghan situation?

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I was on ticketmaster and saw that riize were going on tour and out of curiosity checked what the ticket situation looked like for some of their north american stops and despite being small venues a lot of tickets were still available. I know in general this year has been pretty rough for kpop concert sales and even bigger groups like txt were struggling to fill out some of their venues but considering this is riize's first tour in the US and the venues are not arenas I was shocked to see so many unsold seats. I used to follow them pretty closely during their debut era up till maybe impossible and then gradually lost interest once i realized how sm was handling the seunghan situation and ik they lost a significant amount of their western fanbase because of it but i was wondering since it has been a while since he left if theyve been able to rebuild some of that fanbase? Is there any way for them to bounce back or are they basically just going to focus on the asian market? submitted by /u/PrimaryTomato3310 [link] [comments]

3. I hate that people are still posting Wonyoung's Side to Side cover.

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This is just my rant and confusion towards kpop fans, many of them being Wonyoung stans, insistently posting Wonyoung's Side to Side cover. Wonyoung has so many viral and iconic stages and within Produce48 itself, you have her extremely iconic Very Very Very stage, which is not only age appropriate but was the performance that solidified her stage presence and showed she was center material. However, to this day, I see people constantly posting and praising her Side to Side cover on Youtube Shorts, Tiktok, or on Twitter/X and when people call them out, they always have some bs excuse about how theyre just focusing on her stage presence. Her Side to Side performance is disgusting. She was 13 years old and they had her singing and dancing to a song about having rough sex that has you walking side to side. It has been a while since I watched Prod48 but I remember that another team also had a somewhat sexy song but once the leader of the team realized there were minors on her team, she changed it to a more cute, poppy concept so its not like the concept of not sexualizing minors was not a thing. However, the adults around Wonyoung failed her and this cover is a very disgusting example of the kpop industry's sexualization of minors. I am just a year older than Wonyoung and I remember when this cover came out, there was a lot of backlash from international fans being disappointed in Mnet for this but I will admit that I watched the show and everyone was complimenting her in the performance and her team literally won and Wonyoung just seemed cool. Now when I look back on it, especially having seen her grown up alongside me, its so obvious she is a little kid trying to act sexy and I cant believe this was allowed to happen. How did no one find this cringe? For any Dance Mom fans, a similar thing happened with the "Maddie face." Abby was always glazing it and you'd see Maddie always winning so everyone grew up thinking it was peak acting just for us to finally grow up and realize how dumb it looked. While I think it worked for dance, I remember watching a Maddie interview/live a while back where Maddie said she was super embarassed by it. Not to mention all the sexualization of minors that happened on that show as well that didnt click until I grew up. How those moms let their daughters do some of those dances is beyond me but this isnt the Dance Mom's subreddit so I digress. Also ignoring the whole sexualization of minors part, it's just a very odd performance. Its supposed to be a sexy, sultry song but its performed more like a girlboss girl crush song because the members dont know how to execute the sexy choreography any other way, with some extremely random acrobatic moves from one of the members. I'll admit I thought the acrobatic moves were cool back then but now looking at it, its just so random. Wonyoung recently did a cover with Jinusean where she has a more mature concept but was literally just standing, walking, and singing and compared to her Side to Side cover where they have her trying her hardest to seem mature, singing lyrics about sex and doing sexy choreography, the Jinusean cover blows her Side to Side cover out of the park. Seeing her as an adult with a mature concept that comes naturally, it really just puts into perspective how inappropriate and ridiculous her Side to Side cover was. To conclude, I hate that people still post her Aide to Side cover. Its disgusting and its just not a good cover and she has so many better performances. submitted by /u/MaximumAstronomer747 [link] [comments]

4. have you had terrible dreams abt kpop idols?

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i had a dream my friend became the ceo of sm entertainment from being drunk and applying for sm entertainment after seeing tiffany's highnote from mr mr (hes a fan of snsd and he really hates the song Mr. Simple by SuJu) so suju decided to perform it in front of him (and he was so angry per usual) he forced suju to go to his grandmother's village in burma (where his grandmother was born) and work as vegetable farmers the only reason suju managed to escape was bc shindong had the idea of using a bittermelon as a things to pick locks with and gave my friends grandmother a heart attack (bc bittermelons shouldnt have the ability to do that) they made their way back to korea and wore bikinis (dancing to snsd gee) to give my friend a heart attack submitted by /u/Minute_Ice_7434 [link] [comments]

5. Why its hard for nugu groups to survive nowadays?

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13 or 15 yrs ago, I think its more easier for nugu groups to survive in 2nd/3rd gen era (if im not mistaken). Im not into kpop scenes as much as before, but can somebody tell me why nowadays its hard for nugu idols/groups to survive? Is it because the oversaturation in kpop industry? Or is it because big companies keep debuting newer groups...? I appreciate all insights & thoughts. TQ 😊 submitted by /u/LazyProfile2945 [link] [comments]

6. Let’s Build A Multinational Asian Girl Group! Day 9 - Japan

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1) Comment only 1 girl per country along with a picture. 2) They DO NOT have to be from a K-Pop group specifically, but they do have to be from a girl group! 3) Bi-racial idols are allowed, however, if they win for one category, they are ineligible for another. 4) Votes will be calculated after 24 hours. TWICE’s Tzuyu took the win for Taiwan! For the final round, we’re looking for a representative from Japan! South Korea: Jihyo (TWICE) The Philippines: Sophia (KATSEYE) Mainland China: Yuqi (i-dle) Thailand: Minnie (i-dle) India: Sriya (Blackswan) Hong Kong: Vivi (Loosemble) Vietnam: Nien (tripleS) Taiwan: Tzuyu (TWICE) Once we complete this chart, we’ll do the same with a boy group! submitted by /u/sailormusic [link] [comments]

7. Epic Enid & Agnes Dead Dance KPop Style!

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Check out my KPop edit of the Enid & Agnes dance from Wednesday Season 2. Let me know what y'all think! submitted by /u/lawwuk [link] [comments]

8. Let’s Make a Multinational Asian Girl Group! Day 9 - Japan

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1) Comment only 1 girl per country along with a picture. 2) They DO NOT have to be from a K-Pop group specifically, but they do have to be from a girl group! 3) Bi-racial idols are allowed, however, if they win for one category, they are ineligible for another. 4) Votes will be calculated after 24 hours. Twice’s Tzuyu took the win for Taiwan! For the final round, we’re looking for a representative from Japan! South Korea: Jihyo (TWICE) The Philippines: Sophia (KATSEYE) Mainland China: Yuqi (i-dle) Thailand: Minnie (i-dle) India: Sriya (Blackswan) Hong Kong: Vivi (Loosemble) Vietnam: Nien (tripleS) Taiwan: Tzuyu (TWICE) Once we complete this chart, we’ll do the same with a boy group! submitted by /u/sailormusic [link] [comments]

9. Who do you think leaked that video of Julie from kiss of life?

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Not a fan of kiss of life but damn she needs to sue whoever leaked that shit. Do you think her company is gonna publish something about this? submitted by /u/Which_Mammoth9402 [link] [comments]

10. Can we appreciate this flexibility!?

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11. Kpop fans need to understand that idols promote brands because they are paid to do so not because they agree with X view point/ agenda the brand endoreses

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I saw this post on another kpop subreddit and felt the need to voice that "just because an idol promotes a certain brand does not mean they agree with everything the brand stands for" Is it really that hard to understand that Taehyung promotes Coca Cola because its the most popular soft drink in the world and hes being paid millions to do it? You think he’s sitting there doing ethical case studies on Coca Cola’s labor history? Yall really think he thought about whatever stuff the company supports before signing, no?? he signed because theyre the most popular drink company are you stupid?? Mark promoting Mcdonalds because its the most popular fast food restaurant in the world? Promotion ≠ personal alignment with everything the brand has ever done. Gdragon and jungkook are kinda undefendable but again, just because someone took a small portion of what someone said and agreed with it, DOES NOT mean they agree with EVERYTHING that an individual endorses? Is it that hard to understand?? This weird expectation that idols must be moral philosophers, political activists, and PR perfectionists 24/7 while also being criticized for “being too scripted and fake” is exhausting. You can criticize questionable choices — that’s fair — but acting like they’ve aligned themselves with every controversy tied to a multinational corporation is just intellectually lazy. Some counterarguments: “Idols have influence so they must be responsible!” Most brand deals aren’t deep ethical partnerships — they’re transactional. An idol signs because it’s good exposure and part of the job, not because they’ve sat down and aligned themselves with the company’s full political history. Expecting every idol to do moral background checks on every product they touch is unrealistic when even the loudest critics still consume these same brands privately. They’re not activists. They’re entertainers doing business. “But they’re rich — they can afford to refuse!” That assumes they even care enough about the company’s ethics to refuse. Most don’t. Not because they’re evil — but because they’re detached from Western discourse and corporate scandals that fans obsess over online. To them, Coke and McDonald’s aren’t “controversial brands” — they’re just global household names. Acting like endorsing them is some grand moral statement is projecting our politics onto people who likely never made that connection. They didn’t choose the brand to make a statement. They chose it because it’s popular. https://preview.redd.it/w58ngy3lesrf1.png?width=1407&format=png&auto=webp&s=dccb771cb2be6926b7a40514fd986b5bb1d221a3 submitted by /u/Justinandmessi107lox [link] [comments]

12. Can we appreciate the flexibility!

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13. Jung Seo Joo, Bae A Hyun, Oh Yoojin, & Jung Seul - Do-Re-Mi (orig. The Sound of Music) @ TV CHOSUN Trot All-Star Game Friday Night (250926)

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14. Moments when idols seemed ANRGY and full of passion on stage?

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Ok basically you know those performances where an idol looks/gets really angry on stage as if they’re putting all their raw emotion into it? For example Jimin from BTS growling “FAKE LOVE!” in one of the performances really.. that insane passion you know?? the ANGER And HOSHI from SEVENTEEN basically screams every chance he gets lol it’s like all the energy and passion just explodes on stage (he literally also said, in one of their behind the scenes, something like that his blood boils before going on stage and that it explodes on stage... wow.) I'm looking for other performances where boy group idols had that fierce performance as if it's their last performance kind of stage presence! Would love clips! submitted by /u/DrearBeats [link] [comments]

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