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Why should i care about sasaengs when my favs interact with them?

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This isn’t a defense of sasaengs, let’s be clear. But I’m genuinely asking: why are fans still expected to care more about idols’ privacy than the idols themselves? Haechan in particular has been caught on multiple occasions responding to known sasengs, giving them gifts, and even hooking up with them. And he also tells them to stop calling or sets a boundary (which is completely valid) only to turn around and engages anyway. So if he’s not consistent about drawing the line, why should I be? As fans, we’re expected to hate sasaengs, block them, and never interact, but if our faves themselves are interacting with them willingly, Why should I care? Aren’t they no different than a friend or hook up buddy at this point? The double standards confusing. Are sasaengs stalkers or your friends? Are we supposed to treat them as serious violators of privacy, or acknowledge that the idol’s inconsistent boundaries are what keep them around? Are they actual threats, or just fans who figured out how to get close and never got told “no”? Are they terrifying threats to idol safety — or just lucky enough to get a callback? It raises a bigger question: If idols want the sasaeng behavior to stop, why do they reward it? And more importantly why should I care? I’m tired of giving grown men a pass while we dogpile teenage girls for leaking something the idol responded to willingly. This post isn’t just limited to nct though, i’m pretty sure The Boyz is currently something through something. Discuss Not an anti. Not a sasaeng defender. Just a fan who’s done playing police when the people at the center of it all are sending mixed messages submitted by /u/existenceoverrated [link] [comments]

1.086. Inter-fandom grievances have cemented and permeated all discussions regarding this specific group due to certain fandoms.

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To start off, I won't be namedropping the groups or fandoms since that's begging for fan-wars in the comments which I am avoiding and trying to address. These are only my observations over the years and my interpretation as to how these conditions formed. Nothing what I'm saying here is meant to be accusations. I'm simply sharing my observations and trying to discuss the mechanisms that are at play so bare with me as I use general language to keep things as neutral as possible. Group A's overall reputation, engagement, and challenges have always been... contentious within the K-pop subreddit communities. Additionally, their fandom (Fandom A) are treated in a particularly biased manner. In general, K-pop fans will agree that fan-wars are stupid and that no one instance of a fan in whatever fandom should treated as being representative of said fandom. K-pop stan twitter is infamous for its toxicity which is practical an unspoken fact for any self-described K-pop fan. All in all, most K-pop fans can recognize when something is toxic and unreasonable. This will be the basis of the POV that I'm trying to view things from. Yet, the issue I'm addressing with this post is that these common sense beliefs are suspended when Group A or Fandom A becomes the topic, especially when it comes to discussions centered around issues that affect them. Whether it's because people don't notice it, don't want to notice it or can't address it effectively, many people under Fandom A simply do not discuss or engage in Group A posts given their particular treatment which further compounds this issue due these observations that I've noticed over the years. The users engaged in posts regarding Group A or Fandom A, not all but a significant amount, have consistently engaged in a manner that dismisses, counters, or even intentionally derails the discussions. I would go as far as say that there's almost a coordinated response whenever issues regarding Group A or Fandom A flairs up. I'm talking about recurring users, users so consistent in commenting under such posts that I can recognize their usernames, I can recognize the narratives being pushed and worst yet, I can see the insistent fan-war grievances that are being alluded to. Obligatory disclaimer that my observations are not meant to generalize said fandoms. That's besides the point. These are directed at specific users or at a larger level, exclusive to toxic fans. If you're not toxic, this doesn't apply to you and it is not directed or hinted at you in any way. Again, I'm simply trying to discuss behaviors and tendencies that I've seen on reddit. These users are from Fandoms B and C and some common behaviors and characteristics that I see appear over and over again and are as follows. Fandom B are very engaged and present in most, if not all posts, regarding Group A whether it be in the K-pop or pop subreddits to the point where they're uncontested. Their engagement and seemingly up-to-date awareness of all issues within Group A and Fandom A makes me suspect that they're drawing all this information and frankly, fan-war nonsense outside of the K-pop reddit sphere. Similarly, Fandom C also has a tendency to bring up fan-war grudges and take any opportunity to ridicule Fandom A. Their contempt for Fandom A is open and often supported by others. There are other factors at play to but I won't discuss those since it'll widen the scope of this post too much. Unfortunately, the consequence of all this is that many posts regarding Group A or Fandom A will get dismissed, ignored, or aggressively countered. Posts and discussions where the issues they face get brought up and gain traction will get derailed to the point of a locked thread or post removal. On top of that, many Fandom A users simply won't engage because the overwhelming response to them will drown out their comment which only makes the issue compound and become worse and worse. The fan-wars brought up whenever Group A is mentioned is so prevalent that it's practically normalized now and no attempts to try and discuss it have been successful. submitted by /u/Sooyaa_Yah_Boombayah [link] [comments]

1.087. Is there a song that you wish you could hear again for the first time because of how it made you feel?

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For me it's Instagram by Dean. I think I felt something really visceral when I heard it for the first time. Coupled with the visual style of the mv, the lyricism and his vocals it's one of those songs that really moved me and I still wish I could experience that first listen again. submitted by /u/Chutneysandwich16 [link] [comments]

1.088. How do you Feel when watching survival shows?!

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A few days ago, as my summer break was getting close, even though I still have exams, I decided to watch RUNext here and there, to pass time! Illit is One of my favorite groups After all, so I thought why not! I had already watched Iland 2 on Tiktok and the last 2 episodes complete! . WHY DID I DECIDED TO DO THAT 😭 Im not someone who should watch this kind of stuff! It made me so stressed, so sad, my heart was rlly racing (ik Im anxious but wow) so I stoped Middle episode 3, After the first elimination . I couldnt help but Feel bad for the girls all the time! Well it had parts I genuinely enjoyed! Them being Nice to each other, conplementing performances and outfits, helping One another, but also made me uncomfortable to watch them sad, stressed, trying to fight for their spot, some seeing the pressure and wanting to give up, others ending up stuck in egocentric thoughts and defending their spot a bit to much, I think this kind of stuff is not for me. . Ill DEFF watch the rest of the performances though, I don't want to miss that! But Ill leave the Middle to the past and enjoy Illit now and cheer for the other girls in which ever Path they choose! . What about you? 🩷 submitted by /u/Yuna_buns [link] [comments]

1.089. Happy 12th anniversary to BTS still, the best moments are yet to come! #12YearsWithBTS 💜

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1.090. yo is aespa tryna go for the "brat" typa meme for Dirty Work promotion?

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it doesnt look bad tbh and i can see it working out https://preview.redd.it/d1f8nzv9qj6f1.png?width=1368&format=png&auto=webp&s=7f6811ec293293de0f0bc7a7d2531899731a25fc https://preview.redd.it/zf4ga2w9qj6f1.png?width=1130&format=png&auto=webp&s=59bb9dc340b7f776ad33459043ee950ef0f5cfc1 https://preview.redd.it/dvtgwyv9qj6f1.png?width=1586&format=png&auto=webp&s=ceca7cfaefaea16f18b18d7a9b7e7fb683ef729c submitted by /u/somebod_w [link] [comments]

1.091. ITZY's message is so beautiful and consistent

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Bet On Me: Believing in yourself. When you're not quite sure you can do it, and you're not sure if everyone else will approve, you stay confident in you. You can do it! It's okay to mess up sometimes, to make mistakes and fail. What's important is that you get back up. It's okay to be afraid. Just believe in yourself, even if no one else will. Bet on you. Sugar-holic: Some days are harder than others, and that's okay. It's okay if you can't accomplish everything you want to. Count your blessings instead. It's another new day, and you're still making progress. It doesn't matter how much, progress is progress, you've done a good job. There's a brightside in every situation. When you get used to finding it, finding those little things, you'll feel much better, even when you stumble and fall. Appreciate yourself. Sneakers: Running means freedom. It's how you express yourself. So what if other people think you're weird? Why should you care what they think? Make your own way forward. Live your life on your terms, in a way only you can. They say you can't dance? They say your voice is terrible? They call you a pick-me? They say your performance is cringe? They say your music sucks? I say who gives a damn! Put your sneakers on, and go your own way! You'll make it to the top no matter what they say! Itzy has many beautiful songs, but the core message is the same. Dare to be different. Dare to be you in every way. Be crazy in love, be untouchable, be confident, know what you want, know who you are. You're on fire! You're the toughest, most awesome guy/gal around! Don't be shy, put your crown on your head! Learn to love yourself and see the person you become. Be unashamedly you, because if you won't be, who will? Look in the mirror and who do you see? ITz You! submitted by /u/SageSageofSages [link] [comments]

1.092. Need to talk about how misogynistic kpop fans are towards armys

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6/7 Bts members were discharged yesterday and quite literally 95% of the fandom was just focusing on bts and their weverse lives. May I know the reason why kpop fans, especially on reddit villainize armys for what 2% of the fandom and solos do? Why are armys called every name under the book while claiming themselves to be "feminists"? No, stanning a girl group will not make you a feminist, bringing up a fandom filled with women of all ages and blaming them for every single thing actually makes you a misogynist. So many K-pop fans will claim to be feminist or progressive until it comes to BTS or armys. Then suddenly it’s open season to tear women down because they dared to love something unapologetically. No one's saying all armys are angels, but you guys sure do paint all armys as devils submitted by /u/blueblah1221 [link] [comments]

1.093. Favourite pics of idols wearing glasses?

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Words can't describe how much I love his picture of Jay. submitted by /u/baldism [link] [comments]

1.094. I-dle’s recent comebacks have lost me

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Okay before I get flamed by anyone, let me just say that I really enjoy a lot of their older music, and I still support the girls and whatever they release. In no way do I mean this as a personal criticism of any of the I-dle members. Buttt…. their recent title tracks haven’t really stuck with me. I know Good Thing has a more second-gen sound, but it just feels so basic and repetitive to me. Klaxon is a similar story. Compared to older title tracks like Nxde, Hann, Queencard, and dare I say Wife, they don’t stick out to me at all. I’ve had better luck with some of their B-sides, but as a casual listener, title tracks are usually what I’m exposed to, and what I mostly listen to. If I don’t like the title track, I’m a lot less inclined to listen to the other songs on an album. I really love I-dle and I want to enjoy their music, but I feel like I’m missing out on something. Everyone else seems to love their newer title tracks, so am I the only one who thinks this? submitted by /u/tourmalinefigurine [link] [comments]

1.095. Why should i care about sasaengs when my favs interact with them?

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This isn’t a defense of sasaengs, let’s be clear. But I’m genuinely asking: why are fans still expected to care more about idols’ privacy than the idols themselves? Haechan in particular has been caught on multiple occasions responding to known sasengs, giving them gifts, and even hooking up with them. And he also tells them to stop calling or sets a boundary (which is completely valid) only to turn around and engages anyway. So if he’s not consistent about drawing the line, why should I be? As fans, we’re expected to hate sasaengs, block them, and never interact, but if our faves themselves are interacting with them willingly, Why should I care? Aren’t they no different than a friend or hook up buddy at this point? The double standards confusing. Are sasaengs stalkers or your friends? Are we supposed to treat them as serious violators of privacy, or acknowledge that the idol’s inconsistent boundaries are what keep them around? Are they actual threats, or just fans who figured out how to get close and never got told “no”? Are they terrifying threats to idol safety — or just lucky enough to get a callback? It raises a bigger question: If idols want the sasaeng behavior to stop, why do they reward it? And more importantly why should I care? I’m tired of giving grown men a pass while we dogpile teenage girls for leaking something the idol responded to willingly. This post isn’t just limited to nct though, i’m pretty sure The Boyz is currently something through something. Discuss Not an anti. Not a sasaeng defender. Just a fan who’s done playing police when the people at the center of it all are sending mixed messages submitted by /u/existenceoverrated [link] [comments]

1.096. KATSEYE - 2nd EP: BEAUTIFUL CHAOS (Group + Individual - Concept Photo 3 - CHAOTIC Ver.)

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1.097. The new the Rose album "wrld" freaking rocks

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1.098. What idol do you think would play roblox and what do you think their favorite game would be

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I think Yuna would play dress to impress, I don't know why, but I can just see her playing it on live or something submitted by /u/EdenMyaz1236 [link] [comments]

1.099. What is your favorite Girls Generation song?

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I'm listening to SNSD and I was wondering which one is that number one for you and if it's too difficult tell me a top 3 of your favorite SNSD songs. submitted by /u/Separate-Comedian-25 [link] [comments]

1.100. Why are BTS Posts Constantly Removed From This Sub Even the Major Event Related Ones?

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Lately, almost all the BTS-related get taken down very quickly. Even the major events like them being discharged two days in a row and 12th anniversary. Nearly every post related to these events got mass reported or was removed. These aren’t low-effort or spammy posts—they’re significant moments in the group’s career. What makes this even more ironic is that some people here complain that there are “too many BTS posts” on the sub. But how can that be true when almost every single one gets removed within hours? Like it or not, BTS is a kpop group and they have the biggest fandom. It is their month, let people post in peace. Also a few hours ago someone made a post to celebrate BTS’s 12th anniversary, and it was of course removed. As a response, ARMYs ended up posting two more anniversary posts just to try and keep the message visible. So if you feel like you’re seeing “too many BTS posts,” it’s probably because they keep getting taken down—and fans keep reposting in response. It’s a loop created by the removals themselves. This sub is supposed to be for all K-pop fans. Why some fandoms are overly sensitive when BTS is mentioned? submitted by /u/Accurate_Entrance227 [link] [comments]

1.101. Does anyone else find it hard to distinguish between nct wish’s voices?

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I’ve been listening to nct wish lately and I can’t tell their voices apart for the life of me. Jaehee and sion have very distinct voices but every other members sounds the same to me? I can tell riku is rapping but if he sings I have no idea Sakuya also i can differentiate when rapping but other than that i have no idea. Yushi and Ryos voices to me are a little nasally but again i can’t tell them apart, does anyone have tips to differentiate them? submitted by /u/existenceoverrated [link] [comments]

1.102. Have people forgiven kiss of life now?

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Genuinely asking because people I know are drooling all over their recent comeback and the numbers are doing suprisingly well as well. Is forgiving and moving on the general consensus or are people still against watching or streaming anything of theirs? submitted by /u/Gold_Meaning3688 [link] [comments]

1.103. The misogyny towards Jennie anytime she gets wrapped up in Taennie rumors is disgusting

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Let's leave aside whether you believe they're a thing or not. I can NOT stand the way so many people are just tearing this woman apart because of the very real possibility that she's dating their favorite idol. I would hope most of those commenters are insecure 10 year olds, but unfortunately there's actual adults that genuinely think it's normal to talk about another woman like that. I'm an Army and I don't really consider myself a Blink, yet I think army's are so much more toxic anytime this topic gets brought up while Blinks are relatively normal about it. It's funny too because a lot of comments I've seen are about how Jennie is just asking for attention somehow when the entire reason the rumours started was because V accidentally followed HER. (not that he should have gotten hate for that obviously, just a bit of a weird leap fans made there) The 'V would never go out with someone like her' comments are also strange... they are both idols (therefor can relate to each other in that aspect), have the same passion, are both extremely attractive, around the same age and have probably bumped into each other multiple times in the spans of their careers... I've heard of stranger combinations lol I really hope BTS continue to be a bit more laid back when mentioning their dating life or something because I am sick and tired of these fans (and I wouldn't mind my tickets to be a bit cheaper iykwim) submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

1.104. Happy 12th Anniversary to them!

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