H2H is a group that follows trends rather than sets them. Their songs are fine for easy listening but nothing really grabs your attention. The vocals are average, they lip sync almost all the time and the concept is generic. SM used to be the company that set the standard but now it feels like they are simply copying whatever happens to be popular. Yes, I get that they are rookies but that should not mean they get a free pass. When you look at female sm idols like Bada, Lina, taeyeon, Luna, wendy and ningning, they were all fantastic singers from the moment they debuted. If you want to be an idol, you should already know how to sing, dance and have stage presence. Debut is not supposed to be the point where you start learning the basics. What is the point of training for years if you come out looking unprepared? Right now, the strongest girl groups in terms of vocals in 5th gen are Fifty fifty’s (new line-up), Babymonster and ablume. Just being from SM does not automatically make you the best at vocals. Mamamoo are unmatched in vocals in 3rd gen and Nmixx leads in vocals in 4th gen. SM stans or pink bloods need to stop pretending that h2h is some vocal powerhouse when that is clearly not the case. No one in H2H is in the top 15 best female vocalists in 5th gen. Even idols that are not from the big 4 beat them. This is exactly why I struggle with sm stans or Pink Bloods. They refuse to acknowledge anything negative about H2H, no matter how obvious it is. It is just blind loyalty to SM groups at this point. If h2h had debuted under a different label, especially a smaller one, people would be far more honest about their shortcomings but because they are from SM, there is this constant shield around them. SM stans or pink bloods are the most toxic and annoying company stans in kpop. They act like every sm group is flawless, even when that is clearly not true. H2H’s music is not bad but it is not particularly good either. It is just alright. None of the members stand out vocally and their voices all sound similar. I genuinely cannot tell who is singing in their songs all the time. The same goes for their visuals. They are not unattractive, but their features are so alike that it is hard to distinguish one from another. Even their personalities feel a bit flat. Not dull, but not especially engaging either. Also, I have never understood the idea that we are not allowed to criticise rookies. Being an idol is a job. You are expected to be trained before debut, not after. You should be able to sing live, dance well, have solid stage presence and bring something to the table personality wise. If you are not ready to do that, then maybe you are not ready to debut. It really is that simple. I have seen a lot of people saying h2h gives off nugu vibes and I get it. Some even say they look more nugu than actual nugu groups, which is wild considering they are from sm. SM stans or Pink bloods love picking on groups from other companies. Back in the day, sones used to hate on Twice just because they have nine members and are called “the nation’s girl group” like SNSD. Then, exo-ls started hating on Twice too, all because of the superpowers concept in the Signal mv. It was not even that deep, but they made it a whole thing. Now you have MYs coming for ITZY and NMIXX every chance they get. SM stans or Pink bloods never want to admit that NMIXX is actually stronger than Aespa and WayV when it comes to vocals in 4th gen. They just cannot handle the idea that another company might be doing something better. JYP idols are always easy targets because JYP has the least hardcore company stans among the big 4. That makes their groups easier to drag online and let’s be honest, most of the people saying JYPE would flop without Twice, Day6 or Stray Kids are SM stans or Pink Bloods who just want to see them fail. submitted by /u/brushandmuse [link] [comments]
