My post was already banned on another subreddit (ironic considering they’re supposed to be uncensored) and I am probably going to get downvoted here as well for this considering that nmixx whilst isn’t necessarily Reddit’s favourite, they are still quite universally liked regardless or there is nothing to dislike about them. After some recent reported sales this year, I’ve started to become incredibly doubtful whether some of these groups are actually selling how much they’re selling. Now I’m only going to focus on nmixx because I feel the most suspicious about them but regardless, it is not only this group that I have some doubts about. Anyway, the group who I’m most suspicious about is Nmixx. Now I know they’re a group who’ve had the exact same speculation quite a few times in the past, but I continue to not see how they sell like this. This isn’t me just hating for them no reason, for me the data heavily doesn’t line up to the point I have to consider them a massive outlier in every metric against competition. Many times when this has been brought up, when I use the other 4th gen ggs and even ggs under their own company or bgs, who nmixx sells in the same levels of, as a medium of comparison, people instantly denounce it and say it is flawed because of this but I personally don’t see how. The top 4th gen ggs being lsfm, njs, aespa, ive, idle and the gg under their company being twice. Whilst nmixx doesn’t necessarily sell more than 4 of them (their recent album very slightly outsold lsfm although lsfm has more overall sales this year due to back catalogue) they are still extremely close to this competition especially twice considering twice’s recent album has sold 795k to nmixx’s 751k. Now we all know nmixx is way behind in terms of streaming, their song didn’t even enter top 100 melon this year and the Spotify streams were very eh whilst all the other groups had either strong showings on platforms like Spotify (lsfm, aespa, twice), YouTube (everyone) or melon (everyone but twice and idle). We also know that nmixx’s engagement is way below on pretty much all platforms of interest whether Weibo, douyin, yt, TikTok, insta etc. But even then I could consder nmixx fandom to be like a bg, they sell well but their chart performance isn’t that good but then again, bgs who sell like this aka tws, ateez, treasure etc actually have decent chatting whether Korean or on Spotify. But that isn’t the main issue for nmixx as at the end of the day we’re talking about album sales and not streaming charts but against all these ggs, nmixx doesn’t just falter massively behind in terms of streaming charts whether Korean, global, Japanese, Chinese etc they also falter in the most important thing in this case which is album charts behind these same ggs. You can attribute sales of all the other ggs to different charts in different countries. For example, I can reference idle’s 1 million sales this year to their massive Chinese fandom hence why you see them chart well on Chinese charts and their cbar sales especially yuqi is always high. Lesserafim can be attributed to Sakura cbar, over 100k sales for kr album from just japan (oricon) and idk exact figures but like 60k+ sales from usa on billboard 200. Aespa can be attributed to also billboard 200 (recent prediction had them at like 37k debut I believe), their massive cbars, their jp sales on oricon for their jp album (166k) because kr album hasn’t been reported yet, large kr fandom backed by charting. Ive can also be attributed to cbars, massive young Kr fandom, very high Japanese sales for jp album (177k) and kr album (60k) on oricon etc Twice also to their us sales which is the highest out of all these groups, jp sales only behind lsfm, currently the most streamed gg on Spotify etc Yet nmixx cbars are no way near as big as the these ggs, they haven’t charted on billboard 200 with their recent album, they don’t chart on pretty much any European charts and their oricon sales is literally 5k. So they don’t sell well in pretty much any major market of K-pop consumption so Im going to have assume pretty much all of their sales is coming from Korea. Now if nmixx was selling 600k-700k just from Korea especially for a gg, they’d easily have the sort of fan base where they are able to chart on the melon top 100 but clearly they weren’t even able to do that so idk. Maybe they have a large fandom who just buy and don’t stream, so their concert attendance might be decent. But whilst sure they haven’t gone a tour yet, their fan concert in Korea was at jangchung arena with a max capacity of 4500. I previously said in this post that they struggled to sell but supposedly to a commenter they did not struggle to sell but from what photos I saw, the arena I believe did not open all the seats which I assumed were unsold. I am sorry for the misinformation . Regardless, I still don’t think that infers having a fandom on the level which can sell 600-700k sales in just Korea especially considering other ggs who sell way less (as I’ve shown facts for) in jp are able to hold Tokyo domes whilst nmixx is playing in a much smaller capacity. Im not trying to downplay that capacity as that’s actually very good for the average K-pop group all things considered but that also is a representation that they clearly don’t have a big fan base in kr either. This ain’t even a case of mass buying from rich fans or whatever because mass purchases will still show up on these charts regardless so genuinely what chart do they show up on where something like at least 20k (small number considering the 750k sales) can be reflected. So in the end, the only way nmixx is selling THAT many sales (750k is a lot all Im saying) is if I consider them to be EXTREMELY massive outliers, not only for ggs but K-pop groups as a whole, where they don’t chart well (for the level of sales), don’t appear on pretty much any album charts (for the levels of sales) and definitely don’t tour as well (sure their tour hasn’t yet been announced but all the other ggs are playing in the realms of Tokyo dome which I know mmixx by no offence can do). With that being said, can someone genuinely tel me where 750k of their sales are coming from? Im not even trying to say they don’t sell anything and are flops but just that whatever division of jyp they’re under is clearly pushing up their sales. Realistically they probably sell slightly less than their other sister group in itzy (not a bad thing), who for me clearly have way better metrics on every single platform which isn’t Korean (they both dont chart well so who really cares) showcasing itzy’s own fan base is also imo way bigger. That would mean nmixx sell like 400k which is still incredibly impressive for a gg just not 750k. submitted by /u/No-Story7823 [link] [comments]
Absolutely no hate to certain groups but I genuinely do not understand their sales
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