BABYMONSTER - WE GO UP (Performance Video Photos - Night ver.)

I just got into XLove and I’m obsessed with their sound but I can’t help wondering if they’ll ever get to perform at major Korean award shows or festivals. Their work I think is powerful and important but it’s also something the Korean industry still tends to avoid promoting. Korea’s mainstream industry can be pretty conservative about image and concept so labels and broadcasters often steer toward polished, crowd-pleasing acts but still the fact they've already made it onto major tv music shows: Music Bank, The Show etc maybe there’s hope things are changing. what do u think?? submitted by /u/kkbop90 [link] [comments]

Exactly what the title says. I think we all know about the number of trainees that a company keeps at a given time vs the number of people who debut. There can be up to 50 trainees at a time training for a company and generally only 4 to 6 debut, maybe 7 - 11 if it's a large group like SNSD/Izone/Hearts2Hearts/you get my point. Groups like tripleS (24 members) are experimental concepts. I have heard that it's common for SM entertainment to keep trainees for 8+ years without ever actually debuting them in any project. I know Ejae from Kpop demon hinters movie was considered for Debuting in SNSD and later in Red Velvet until eventually she was told she was "too old" to debut (just mid 20s, really). She was "too old" (by idol standards) to debut in Red Velvet and was told she was too young to debut when Girls Generation (SNSD) debuted (which is honest probably an excuse, other SNSD members where her age at debut, around 15 or so). She has a very deep mezzo soprano tone and kpop tends to fabor light bright soprano voices, barring groups like Dreamcatcher and Rolling Quartz which have a darker concept, so in my opinion they were never planning to debut her at all and had her around solely as a backup option/"just in case" trainee. In case a member leaves, gets injured, can't debut for health reasons, whatever. Her vocal tone is very beautiful and resonant and her technique is excellent, it's obvious she's an ex SM trainee, but it's also dead obvious that she wasn't considered a good enough candidate in a saturated industry that primarily favours visuals, marketability, how well you fit the concept, etc, and generally favors brighter light female voices. Now Ejae is working in the background as a songwriter for other artists and I am honestly waiting for her solo debut, after all the publicity Kpop demon Hunters gave her. A singer songwriter in k-pop is a somewhat rare phenomenon. Anyways, her story got me thinking about all the trainees that never make a debut, whether because of visuals and body proportions, not fitting the concept of the group (ie, a deep voiced trainee in a company that plans to debut a cutesy Illit/Lovelyz/Gfriend type group), no dance aptitude despite top notch vocals, or something as simple as having both the visuals and the concept down but there being a slightly better candidate at the time and limited positions. Who will debut in k-pop isn't determined by vocal or even dance technique alone, - otherwise all main vocalist would be literally Whitney Houston and all main dancers would be Balanchine or Broadway tier, all rappers would flow like Eminem, etc. Which got me thinking that perhaps k-pop trainees who are not chosen for debut and are let go by the company should at least be given a certificate of completion of sorts, sort of like a degree or professional certification, that proves that they trained with the company for a certain amount of years. Ie, "Kim Park (fictional name), trained in SM entertainment/YG/Starship/Woollim/whatever for 4/5/6/7/8+ years for the vocals/dance/rap position and has reached such and such skill level". That would give former trainees who aged out solid fallback options that would allow them to still work in the industry, just not as idols. For example, someone who trained to be the groups main dancer could work as a backup dancer and still get to be on stage with idols, or work behind the scenes as a choreographer. Someone who trained to be the groups rapper could transition into behind the scenes production or writing for established groups, someone who was a great main vocalist prospect could do backup vocals or debut as a trot/ballad singer instead (popular music style in Korea), and someone who had average vocals and dance but excellent visuals could be redirected to the acting and modeling industry and find success there, like many aged out former idols do anyways. Eugene from S.E.S is now an actress. Or, if they choose to, they can pursue a different genre of music such as k-rock or k-indie, or being a professional trot singer like I mentioned above, and a certificate proving that they trained under a kpop company for 4+ years would make them more likely to be signed by a different label or even a Western label, it would make them better more competitive candidates. That way ex-trainees can still enjoy working in the industry in some ways, whether behind the scenes or as a different kind of performer, and they get viable fallback options that aren't retraining for 2 to 5+ years to get a different kind of education or training in s completely different field and being behind their peers by that time. With such a system, 8 years of training without ever debuting would not go to waste. I had this thought while eating a kids menu cheeseburger meal, anyways, nodding off. Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments. submitted by /u/PartyIllustrious6645 [link] [comments]

There's a few posts there with thousand of upvotes complaining about how KPop Idols love interested in their music videos is mostly white if they're foreigners and im like why does it matter?? Who cares about who's Idols Love interested was?? It's like their fantasy to see KPop Idols make love with black people. Look I understand about wanting more black representation in kpop as they took alot of inspiration from black American culture but you can do that by demanding this companies to debut more black Idols like fatou from blackswan or manon from katseye. Demanding them to be Idols love interest on the music video is some sort form of fetish. submitted by /u/Chemical_Mobile_6613 [link] [comments]

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I'm a casual listener of MEOVV, I didn't like their debut song or Body which was also broadcasted but I really liked their SP. Hands Up definitely grew on me, but I expected something more. And now they dropped Burning Up and for the first time I listened and immediately liked it. No actual complains, because I really don't like the same upbeat that girlcrush concepts do in the chorus/break dance but this instrumental was very nice done unlike Body/MEOW. Kinda gives ITZY vibes with their concept right now. Very well done. submitted by /u/po_pov [link] [comments]

One of the clearest trends in 5th Gen has been the number of boy group survival shows which have formed many successful groups or introduced future successful idols. But at the same time many didn’t make it (even after multiple shows) or ended up in failed projects or obscure groups. So I propose a 2026 show with a 2027 debut in mind (likely the last year of 5th Gen so it will be poetic to see this type of group debut then) with 18 contestants. We have to see them all we get a 3 minute intro from each (which is aired in the show) and throughout the series all their efforts are reflected we get to see their relationships, triumphs struggles and silly moments. Each team member gets a 2 minute interview on their thoughts (increase screen as contestants are eliminated) in addition to the whole team dynamic. Dorm content is a must. I think there should be 3 rounds a semifinals and final The songs used should all be 5th Gen Round 1 2023 - (theme the beginning) In Bloom, Get a Guitar, One and Only (6 members each) Eliminate 2 Round 2 2024 - (theme hit songs) Plot Twist, Love 119 (8 member team each) Eliminate 2 Round 3 2025 (theme monster rookies) Rendezvous, All My Poetry (7 Members Each) Eliminate 2 Semi Finale 2026 - ? (Whatever is the number 1 song 5th Gen song then) (both teams of 6 perform it) Eliminate 2 Final a new song by EL CAPITXN and Lee Hae-in (Maybe fans vote on which concept/ producer they prefer) (5 members each) Final lineup will have 7 members Top 3 by 7 pick top 3 by 1 pick and one final member live audience vote where all 4 remaining candidates are eligible The producer of the final group should be Lee Hae-in (the producer behind KIOF and CLOSE YOUR EYES) (EL CAPITXN - tripleS and AHOF is another option) As for the company I’m not sure if you have any ideas do say. Im curious if you have any alternative ideas I am curious to hear you thoughts. submitted by /u/ARG_obesessed [link] [comments]

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what are your thoughts? I honestly can't believe this is real. submitted by /u/0x1trinity [link] [comments]

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[here is a link to a kpop wiki place](https://kpop.fandom.com/wiki/Unpretty\_Rapstar:\_HIP\_POP\_Princess) it will air on the 16th of October, 21:50 KST. featuring 40 contestants, 20 from Korea and 20 from japan, its a survival show with the goal of creating a group [EP. 1 preview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRpLxLe4Ynw) so yeah, are you gonna be tuning in? im personally excited to see what they have in store, the previews and performances seem pretty good already. submitted by /u/Hotpotatowned [link] [comments]

i'm really curious! also, if you think that i'm defining early kpop vs later kpop incorrectly, please let me know how you'd define it! for early kpop, it seemed more common to have all the members singing and harmonizing at the same time. i really liked that a lot with later kpop, i like how it seems to span across more genres. but maybe early kpop did that too and i just missed it? what do you guys think? submitted by /u/Relevant_Loan2278 [link] [comments]

i LOVE when a girl group covers a boy group song, and vice versa of course. but my favourite has to be of f(x) covering ring ding dong. i also love loona's cover of sorry sorry like omg 😫 what cover sticks out to you the most? theres so many! submitted by /u/0x1trinity [link] [comments]

I've genuinely seen more people mistake inactive grps as nugu than I've seen people putting actual nugu grps under that category. For example,I've lost count of those who've classified wjsn as nugu. They aren't nugu,they're just inactive. When they were active they were decently popular. They won queendom in 2022,they had a Christmas hit that rose every new year's on korean charts,they hit the 100k sales mark for their albums. They were comfortably top mid tier. It also happens a lot with 2nd gen grps than newer gen kpop fans may have not heard. I've seen people put some really popular 2nd gen grps such as kara and AOA on the nugu category. They were nowhere near nugu tho. They're just disbanded/inactive. (I think kara recently reunited tho) An actual nugu grp is an active group with low streams,sales,social media engagement and a small fandom. Inactive grps such as wjsn don't have recent achievements,not no achievements at all. submitted by /u/Alive-Pitch-9180 [link] [comments]

Why I don't stan and listen to bgs: The Boyfriend Image: A lot of bgs sell the “I want to be your boyfriend” image. It feels like they focus more on fanservice than the music. I just want to enjoy the songs, not get into parasocial relationships. I’m a straight woman btw. The Music: Bg songs are harder to get into. They’re not as catchy or easy to listen to for me. Gg songs are my type. Gg songs are more appealing because they have fun beats, easy melodies, and tuneful vocals. Fashion: I like how girl idols dress more. Their style matches my preference. Albums and Merch: Gg albums and merch are so much cuter, cooler, and prettier. I actually want to buy them. Relatability: I just relate to girls more. They feel like friends or sisters. Voices: I prefer female voices. They sound better to me. Other Reasons: There’s a bunch of little things, but these are the main ones. submitted by /u/sparklemoments [link] [comments]

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