ChoA, formerly of AOA, has been chosen to front the “O! Choice with ChoA” campaign in collaboration with high-end furniture brand Osto’s Cosmic Collection.

I know the easiest answer boils down to ‘my favourite is better than yours’ in whatever context out there (sales, streams, tour, CFs/ambassadorships, social media following, MV views, income, beauty/height, charting, awards, music show awards, whatever else one can think of) mentality. However, what I, until now, still cannot fully comprehend is how an artist from the same company is pitted against another artist of the very same company. While we have the whole NJ vs everyone else mentioned in their whole drama, we also have Stay vs Once drama that seem endless and intense (I am deep into the fandom space and while I block A LOT, this still leaks). I know fanwars exist everywhere and sometimes it is just a small part of the whole fandom. I also do know that the bigger the fandom is, the louder the toxicity is. While I am never in camp ‘I support all artist coming from the same company’ because I just am not, I also do not see why 2 completely different artist fandoms will fight over the stupidest things and spread lies everywhere that it even got so intense that it became a huge thing back in 2023 when SKZ was accused of fraud for their first number 1 charting on Billboard US 200 (which ironically other groups also manage to attain but no one is accusing them of fraud, not that I want anyone to be accused of fraud for goddamned no reason) that it trended number 1, freaking number one, on Twitter. For almost a day! That Billboard has to even make a formal announcement about it. So here is the list of things I can possibly think of why people like to fight over stupidies and silliest thing in kpop and please feel free to share: Feeling of superiority - we feel like our idols are superior in whatever ways then other idols - mind you, it is not our achievements, it is the idols’ but alas, we will use this as a weapon to look down on other groups. Our favs will always be number one. The rest is in the pits. Or nugu. Or carried by fandom. Or the distance is distancing (my recent favourite). Feeling of unfairness - we feel like only our idols should get all the benefits out there, the company should not give any benefits to other idols nor debut new groups because whatever the company is giving to other idols is taking away benefits to ours. One of the oft use sentence is - ‘A is using B’s money for promotion’. There is more - X gets more than Y when both gets different sort of promotion and lacks certain part compared to other companies but yeah, lets have a We-Have-Less Olympic. Oh and mistreatment. Lets not forget that our idols are always mistreated compared to others. Feeling of suspicions towards others - this is the best because according to toxic stans, our idols are the most ‘organic’ while others have ‘payola’ or ‘big 4 benefits’. So whatever success/achievements our idols get is purely because of the idols and whatever success/achievement others got are fake due to company buying their way through, farm stream, playlisting, bulkbuying, closing venue sections, mediaplay or whatnot. Oh lets not forget free-falling - another kpop favourite phrases. My favourite makes real music and we are here for it, not for the charts - funny, because when your favs are not charting, they use this reasoning, but when they are suddenly their favs are making the best album/song of the year. And if the others are not charting or doing as well, lets make posts after posts about how this and that group is fading away into nothingness. But when we post about charting and sales and tours, now we are accused of liking groups because of numbers. Now we cannot even celebrate achievements because we are not fans of their music, but the numbers! Do I get these right? Do you guys have more to share? Kpop is very interesting. I used to go from Soompi to OH to AKP forums to now Reddit and I find it interesting that 20 years have passed and not much has changed. submitted by /u/Many-Ad-9007 [link] [comments]

Just watched this video, Twice Hits Career-High on Billboard Hot 100 with "Strategy" and "Takedown". For a couple weeks now, there have been posts questioning Twice's music direction. Namely move into English songs and more mature songs away from earlier hits like "Cheer Up" and "TT". For me, I am all for free speech. You don't like the songs, okay. It is your prerogative. But I see it if Twice's members want this, it is their right. How many K-pop artists survive till 10 years? And being associated with Kpop Demon Hunters, extremely beneficial. Doing their first appearance in an American music festival, headlining Lollapalooza. Twice can only go up, up, up submitted by /u/Brief_Night_9239 [link] [comments]

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not every song or group is for everyone and that's fine. you listen to a song, don't like, move on. simple, right? apparently not. what i don't get is the need to go out of your way to call it "dogshit", say so n so idols are "ugly" or that "they can't sing/dance/etc". like...why? i get that criticism is important n i respect that but outright hating on them js bcos "you don't vibe w them" is crazy. here me out: music taste is subjective. beauty is subjective. what u might like, somebody might not n vice versa 🤓 it's not that deep. you don't have to like everything but you also don't have to hate-comment everything either. js ignore them n listen to someone u do like. like why do u gotta announce it to everyone? pls touch some grass 🙏😭 submitted by /u/NearbyCloud2830 [link] [comments]

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I’ve been army for almost ten years. Like only stanning BTS, but dabbling in other boy groups (skz, NCT 127, ATEEZ, en-, etc) After they went to the military, I started pulling back from kpop in general, but recently have starting fully stanning the groups named above. With that, I also started interacting more on the fan side of kpop. I’ve always seen how much other fans hate army and would just take it as jealousy over BTS doing “better” than other groups. While that is partially correct, I’ve come to realize that it is also Army😭. Originally, Army was a protector of BTS against baseless accusations and unnecessary hate. But now all I see is them doing the same thing to other groups and fandoms. I don’t understand why everyone can’t just focus on their own group?! And now we have BTS seeming to forget where they came from. Between Tae being a Coke ambassador to the McDonalds meal to now them saying they CREATED THE ENDING FAIRY?!?!?! It’s getting embarrassing out here as an Army fr. I’m not sure if I’ll fully unstan, because I’ve been with them for so long, but it’s definitely becoming harder to defend the boys and fans submitted by /u/CleanPossibility256 [link] [comments]

What I've noticed a lot of shippers genuinely believe their faves are gay and dating the other member and when their fave is exposed for dating somebody else they feel betrayed and start making up random theory how the rumor isn't true. They end up harassing the guy/girl calling them all sort of names for ruining their fantasy or ship. Then the rest of fandom who still indenial or still shock will adopt their mentality or theory, repel the guy/girl and run with their made up narrative and spread it. I recently encountered a twt post saying Jennie cosplayed the girl in the video in the Paris just to post it in her Instagram. From saying those ppl are cosplayers, suddenly Jennie herself is also cosplaying the cosplayer. The amount of engagements those type of theory getting up to this day is so alarming cause they genuinely believe that's what happened and still villainizing the other party for it. The same case with every other fandom with die-hard gay shippers.. Most shippers don't ship these kpop idols for fun anymore but actually believe they real submitted by /u/Wrong_Winner_6255 [link] [comments]

I can't lie, I was expecting HYBE to release a new global girl group after Katseye's success.Tho I definetly wasn't expecting old members like Emily and Samara to be admitted(don't get me wrong, they have talent).Overrall I think the whole thing is so fast, how they released the news for less than a month and they're already getting the members.I honestly thought it would have been a boy group, but what do you guys think? submitted by /u/Particular-Rain116 [link] [comments]

I will go first If we feel like it's awkward and inappropriate to stan an idol due to just the age thing they should not debut in first place. JUST THINK ABOUT IT if you disagree I can't help argue with wall submitted by /u/Flat-Mulberry-656 [link] [comments]

In other words, when the music reflects what’s happening in the lyrics. I’ll start. I really like when songs use “splash” and the music abruptly stops. It sounds exactly like you just jumped into a pool haha. Some examples off the top of my head: Nostalgia - Drippin @ 0:25 Jaws - BAE173 @ 0:18 submitted by /u/MonacleTopHatPenguin [link] [comments]

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Title sums up what I want to say but having finished the video like 4 times since it came out and I really found myself loving the fact that they were able to showcase their diverse discography in just 20 mins and the fact that they have more to offer is just even more awesome. Starting off the performance with their hard hitters like → leading into their more vocally intense tracks → sneaking in a whisper-heavy ear tickling track in Super Bowl → a three song gauntlet of their easy listening (and, as Jeongin coins it, their trash trio) songs and wrapping it up concert staples and their latest title track + a crowd pleaser track with In My Head to close it out. It felt like a great primer for anyone who wants to get into Stray Kids and a performance that hardcore fans can truly enjoy. I hope this performance reels in more people to take a dive into their discography. submitted by /u/Lofijunkieee [link] [comments]

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I've seen people getting sad over their faves dating other people and claim they don't see them Romantically. i mean i believe them because some of the ppl i know who feels that way have long time partners IRL but it still makes me wonder so i m just rambling here. i know it's parasocial relationship, but what about exactly in parasocial relationship make someone feel sad or upset over their faves dating? In hollywood, most fans dgaf abt their favorite singers dating, but in kpop, it is such a big deal and it's crazy seeing the difference between the two industry. I feel like there is a huge difference but i just can't pinpoint it. do you think that apart from u healthy obsession or unhealthy parasocial relationship, abandonment issues is also involved? do you think it's the feeling of missing out- similar to how an irl friend who didn't tell u abt their latest relationship? is it the entitlement? or maybe it's how kpop marketed their idols? I'm curious to know your thoughts because i love learning other's perspective. submitted by /u/OpeningAmoeba4242 [link] [comments]

I won't get into the situation with that's happening with Jimin currently because there's so many things going on there, but it made me think about something that's been bothering me for a while. If male idols are going to hang out with female idols, date them, and quite literally beg for collaborations with them, they and their companies should be prepared to defend these women from their fans. Especially in the case of women working with male idols. It's ridiculous how "criticism" turns into thinly veiled misogyny every time without fail. You can argue that idols don't have control over their fans and I even agree to an extent, but it wouldn't take much effort to go on a platform and say "please leave this person alone". Of course, companies won't do this because they rely so much on parasocialism but I can't help but feel disappointed whenever this happens. And some idols absolutely have the power to intervene if they wanted to. submitted by /u/3urodyne [link] [comments]

I hope Rain counts as OG kpop… Was going through some old photos and stumbled on a little piece of nostalgia so thought I’d share it here. Back in 2003 my friend’s dad worked at a TV station so we got to visit a Music Bank recording. I ended up hanging out backstage and actually met Rain(Jung Jihoon) in the dressing room. He signed this for me and even took a photo together (though I have no idea where that picture went now) He was still a total rookie back then so I remember being able to chat with him quite a bit. Such a wild memory looking back! submitted by /u/Zestyclose-Land7135 [link] [comments]

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