Does anyone else feel like something is missing with groups like hearts2hearts, meovv, and kiiikiii?

Hello everyone! We are excited to take a trip back in time to revisit some K-Pop classics once again, continuing with this rate, the "Early Gen 3" Girl Groups Rate! (If you haven't already, make sure to join r/kpoprates to ensure that you stay updated on future rate-related posts!) Quick Links: Ballot submission: Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot // Ballot template (Google Docs ver.) // Ballot template (Pastebin) Playlists: Spotify // Youtube (Audio ver.) // Youtube (Lyrics ver.) // Youtube (MV ver.) Deadline: July 7th (Monday), 11:59 Pacific (Link to a timezone converter) How the songs were selected: We used the /r/kpop Top Ten Tuesdays results to grab the most adored songs from each of the artists on Reddit, and we also had a songlist feedback survey on /r/kpoprates to help decide the songlist! Now, without further ado, let's introduce the 55 songs (& 7 bonus songs) that were selected for this rate, ordered chronologically for each artist (artists were also ordered by debut date): . Spica: Russian Roulette You Don’t Love Me EXID: Every Night Up & Down Ah Yeah Hot Pink Night Rather Than Day DDD I Love You HelloVenus: Wiggle Wiggle I’m ill Mysterious Crayon Pop: Bar Bar Bar AOA: Miniskirt Short Hair Like a Cat Heart Attack Good Luck 10 Seconds Excuse Me FIESTAR: One More You’re Pitiful Ladies’ Code: Pretty Pretty Galaxy The Rain BESTie: Love Options Excuse me Mamamoo: Piano Man You’re the Best Décalcomanie Starry Night Egotistic Wind Flower Gogobebe HIP Laboum: Journey to Atlantis Hwi Hwi Lovelyz: Ah-Choo Destiny WoW! Now, We That Day Sonamoo: Friday Night GFriend: Me Gustas Tu Rough Navillera Fingertip Time For The Moon Night Apple Mago Brave Girls: Deepened Rollin’ We Ride Chi Mat Ba Ram After We Ride . Bonus Rate: The bonus rate is basically an extension of the main rate! There were several songs that received high praise during the songlist feedback survey that still were barely not able to make the main rate, so we have put them into the bonus rate here to give them a chance to be rated. . EXID - Lady HelloVenus - Venus Crayon Pop - FM Fiestar - Mirror Ladies’ Code - Bad Girl Laboum - Between Us GFriend - Labyrinth . The Bonus Rate is optional and you do not have to submit a score for every song in the bonus list if you do it: you can score none of them, all of them, or any number in between. You cannot give a 0 or 11 to any song in the bonus, as they are not part of the main rate. While it is optional, we hope you consider participating. Spotify playlist YouTube playlist (MV version) YouTube playlist (Audio version) YouTube playlist (Lyrics version) Rules: You must listen to and assign a score to EVERY song listed. If your ballot is missing any scores it will not be eligible and you'll be sent a message asking you to fill in the missing scores. Each song should be assigned a score between 1 to 10. Decimals up to one point are allowed but any further is a no-no – 6.9 is fine, but 6.99 is not. You can use ONE 0 and ONE 11 for the entirety of the rate, for your least favorite and most favorite song respectively - they are optional but HIGHLY encouraged if you feel some type of way about any given song! Comments are also encouraged but not required for such scores (except if you give a song a 0). Comments are encouraged and much appreciated (but not required, except for if you give a 0) and can be added to any song by simply typing after the numerical score, like so: Hip: 2.4 Ofc the title track that utilizes Mamamoo's vocal power the least ends up becoming the most popular (yells angrily at cloud) This is the ONLY correct way to format a comment. Please do not include colons (ex. 9: I stan!), dashes (ex. 3.3 - This song sucks), or any other symbol after your score/before your comment as it breaks the program. You can also give comments for individual artists! Just write your comment after the :, such as the following: EXID: Are they pronounced like "exit" or are you supposed to say every letter separately? I'll never know For this rate and most future rates, we have a ballot average minimum of 4.00. In addition, if your ballot average is between 4.00-5.50, you must leave comments on your lower scores (which we define as any score that's a 3 or lower). {Do not worry about having to calculate your ballot average, once you submit your ballot, we will tell you if you need to make changes to your ballot for it to be accepted.} SUBMITTING A BALLOT: * Link to Reddit Chat to message a ballot As Reddit is (unfortunately) moving away from the private messaging system in favor of utilizing the Reddit chat system, we are forced to also adopt the Reddit chat system for messaging. You can make a copy of either the Google Docs or Pastebin ballot templates below, add your scores on your local copy/file, and send the link to your local copy/file in your Reddit Chat message to u/KpopRates_Ghost. * Google Docs ballot template * Pastebin ballot template Google spreadsheet template that you can use to calculate averages, record scores, and make predictions Alternatively, if you have Discord, you can message the link to your ballot to both the rate hosts, @Zypker124 and @aidshha. You can also submit the top/bottom 5 prediction form at any time. DUE DATE: Monday, July 7th, by 11:59 PM Pacific - This will be the FINAL deadline, no extensions will be given this time! (Here is a link to a time zone converter for the deadline.) REVEAL DATES (Reveals will take place on /r/kpoprates as well as the KpopRates Discord: https://discord.gg/4YY2ksBbT6) Day 1 - July 12th (Saturday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) Day 2 - July 13th (Sunday), 8 AM Pacific (Time zone converter here) submitted by /u/kpoprates_ghost [link] [comments]

This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Now, we've been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) He lives in a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Sittin' by myself, I'm just thinkin' About all I've been through, I wish I was dreamin' Man, it's hard to be an angel when you surrounded by demons (Jesus, Lord) I watched so many people leave I see 'em change by the season, that's mama's seasonin' God got you, the devil's watchin', he just peekin' in I know I made a promise that I'd never let the reaper in (Jesus) But lately, I've been losin' all my deepest friends (Lord) And lately, I've been swimmin' on the deepest end It's just drugs, it ain't no hugs, it ain't no love there You been down so much you don't even know what's upstairs Suicidal thoughts got you wonderin' what's up there (Jesus, Lord) And while I introduce the party, they say it's up there Too many pills, so much potions, so much pain, too many emotions And everything that you do good, it just go unnoticed (Jesus) Then they tell you that you good and just stay focused (Lord) Mama, you was the life of the party I swear you brought life to the party When you lost your life, it took the life out the party (Jesus) That woman rode with me like a Harley (Lord) Visions of my cousins in a cell really scarred me Movin' to the hood was like signin' up for the army 'Cause they been killin' n- since n- was watchin' Barney (Jesus) You want dreams to come true? But I have nightmares (Lord) 'Cause if that come to life, then I might not be right here Been in the dark so long, don't know if the light here But I'm just reachin' for the stars like Buzz Lightyear (Jesus) And now I'm light years ahead of those nightmares (Lord) I deaded those night terrors when the night clears And if I talk to Christ, can I bring my mother back to life? And if I die tonight, will I see her in the afterlife? (Jesus) But back to reality where everything's a tragedy (Lord) And better have a strategy or you could be a statistic Little boy dies, he's just one of the mystic And mama steady cryin' 'cause she really the victim (Jesus) Now she's gettin' high and she's gettin' addicted (Lord) And her older boy just stuck with the picture, painted vivid That's a family portrait and her daughter just absorbed it 16, pregnant, baby daddy say she should abort it (Jesus) But we can't afford it, so she decides to move forward (Lord) Baby shower time, father didn't show up Now she just feelin' nauseous like she finna throw up The water flows down her legs, yeah, it's finna go up (Jesus) A year done went by, her daughter just turned one (Lord) And she's still dependent on her mom Big brother in the streets, he went and bought him a gun He want revenge 'cause the pain, feelin' numb (Jesus) And her mom still doin' drugs 'cause that's the only time she feel loved (Lord) But is it real love? Do the scars really heal up? From all the pain that been built up, but they don't feel us (Jesus) A week done flew by, big bro ridin' then he see the guys (Lord) Left his little brother on the side, bleedin' from the side He seein' red, it's like he's bleedin' through his eyes To see him dead, the only thing that'll help the grievin' up inside (Jesus) He even let him get they last meal (Lord) He done with the streets after this, this his last kill He gotta show him that it's that real He ran up on him with the pipe like, "N-, stand still" (Jesus) "You took my brother life, you made my mother cry" (Lord) "Tell me one reason I shouldn't send you up to Christ" He said, "Go 'head, take my life, I've seen everything but Christ" The big bro just blacked out and all you seein' was the light (Jesus, Lord) Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Uh-huh, in the name of the true and living God The beneficent, the merciful (Hallelujah) Thank you for bringin' me up the rough side of the mountain like Ertuğrul (Jesus) Every knee bowed and every tongue confessed and paid homage (Lord) To the monk who visited Rothschilds like Thelonious did Pannonica (sheesh) It's Jay Elec-entendre-nica comin' through your monitor Back from the great beyond, the Son of Man and the son of Donda (Jesus) I never rolled the GXSR or the R6 or the Honda (Lord) But I flew my Ducati through North America like Wakanda Earthquakes will strike this nation for what Bush did to Rwanda (facts) What the Clintons did to Haiti and Downing Street did to Ghana In Tenochtitlan they call me Terremoto, El Negro Loco (Jesus) I shake the tectonic plates of the game if I lay one vocal (Lord) The God is interstellar while you fellas remain local My bars is like the pyramid temples of Pacal Votan (Jesus) As sure as the DOJ confirmed Ezekiel's Wheel (Lord) I could change the world like Yacub with two pieces of steel My sword and my microphone, I swore to the Christ's throne But when you great, they wanna say you took an L, José Castillo (Jesus) I'm in the fight here, fight here, for what seemed like light years (Lord) My rugged cross and thorny crowns squeeze out Christ tears 30 pieces of silver clout, my Pierre price tier It's a war outside, it's a war outside (Jesus) It's like the last days of Sodom and Gomorrah outside (Lord) Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) We've been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) He lives in a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) What up, Ye? This Larry Hoover Jr. First and foremost, I wanna thank you For taking the fight for my father to the Oval Office You might not have been the only one that could've did that But you were the one that did do that And with your assistance We can continue to let the world take part in this fight You know to me it kinda feels like, me, my mother, my brothers And my kids have all been incarcerated through this journey And we haven't even been to jail We've been looked at and treated as criminals, for being a part of this family My father's truth and the reality that he raised me in Is that he wanted to make a change in this community 'Cause the conditions in this capitalist society Is what made him, and it's what made the children of today After 25 years of bein' locked down, 23 and 1 My father has not called any shots From one of the most secure and segregated prisons in the world And will not, once released Call any of the shots for the Gangster Disciples If my father's intentions were to lead us to death, destruction Into the hell that he has had to live in for the past 26 years Man, he would be dead to me I didn't sign up for that I didn't stay on this journey this long for that All my life, man, I've been waitin' for my father to come home They told me when I graduate eighth grade, he would be home Then they told me when I graduate from high school, he would be home I went away to Morris Brown, I graduated and he still ain't home Now I'm a adult, and my daughter went away to college and graduated He still not home Now even more than that, my son He graduated eighth grade and we still waitin' Matter of fact, he hasn't hugged Kissed, or touched any of his grandchildren And they haven't been able to touch they grandfather Even though it is not seen that way for some of us But for many of us, Larry Hoover is a beacon of hope for his community Who deserves to breathe free air Free my father (Jesus), Mr. Larry Hoover Sr. (Lord) submitted by /u/Once_Or_Twice_ [link] [comments]

Before I get into, I'd like to mention that I'm very into collecting and cherishing physical media. I have a cd-player and about 12 cd's at home, both old and new. I have 2 kpop albums, the chaos chapter freefall and the star chapter together. I have to say, listening to an album from beginning to end with a CD you can actually hold is such an underrated experience. I really do consider kpop albums to be art, they're on another level with amazing inclusions. My favorite examples are Aespa's album that comes with its own cd player and Yeonjuns GGUM packaging. You can clearly tell that staffs put so much effort in them. Thats why I get really bummed out when I see unbought albums ripped open for the photocards, stacks of brand new albums out on the street for the sake of "achievements" and getting into fancalls. These albums are not cherished properly and are bad for the environment as well. The kpop industry is responsible for making album sales such a big deal, but so are kpop stans for prioritizing photocards above everything else. I can't be the only one who thinks this way, right? submitted by /u/Confident_Adagio9893 [link] [comments]

Maybe it’s just me, but I found it really suspicious how NewJeans and aespa suddenly got all “close” right at the peak of the HYBE vs Min Hee-jin drama. Before that, there were barely any interactions between the two groups, and then out of nowhere they’re taking pictures together, praising each other in interviews, and sharing moments at award shows. Not trying to push conspiracy theories, but let’s be real: moves like this in K-pop are rarely innocent. Companies use idols’ images as chess pieces, and this sudden bond feels way more like a strategic move than something natural. Almost like SM and ADOR were sending indirect messages in the middle of this whole narrative war. And it’s funny how some fans sell it as “genuine friendship between the girls” when, realistically, it could’ve just been a calculated PR move. Obviously it’s not the idols’ fault — they just go along with what the companies plan — but I can’t help thinking the timing was way too convenient. submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

I always wonder about this: why do stans hate HYBE so much? From the outside, it’s not really that different from any other big K-pop company. All of them have histories of exploitation, strict control, and shady decisions… so I don’t understand why all the disproportionate hate seems to go directly to HYBE. What I notice is that this narrative mainly comes from Big 3 (SM, YG, JYP) fans. During all that HYBE drama last year, I saw tons of tweets praising the Big 3 like they were saints, while dragging HYBE and its groups, almost like it was some status war. But if you look closer, the Big 3 also have long histories of scandals, mistreatment, and practices just as bad — if not worse. It feels like, deep down, it’s more about fandom rivalry and company hierarchy than actual critique. HYBE grew too fast, challenged the old system, and that bothered people who were used to the Big 3 monopoly. So now, hating HYBE has become a way to “defend tradition” in the industry. At the end of the day, none of these companies are innocent, but the way HYBE gets singled out feels really selective to me. Does anyone else notice this double standard, or do you think HYBE is actually worse than the others in some way? submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

Let’s Build a Multinational Girl Group! Day 2 - The Philippines Let’s Build a Multinational Girl Group! Let’s build a girl group with each member representing a different Asian country! Here are the rules: 1) Comment only 1 girl per country along with a picture. 2) They DO NOT have to be from a K-Pop group specifically, but they do have to be from a girl group! 3) Bi-racial idols are allowed, however, if they win for one category, they are ineligible for another. 4) Votes will be calculated after 24 hours. Sophia of KATSETE is our Filipina representative!! Next up, mainland China! I made the decision to keep mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan all completely separate simply because of the amount of idols from those places. South Korea: Jihyo (TWICE) The Philippines: Sophia (KATSEYE) Once we complete this chart, we’ll do the same with a bit group! submitted by /u/sailormusic [link] [comments]

I wasn’t a big fan of these 2 groups until I saw every fandom piling on them due to either so called poor live performance and vocals or alleged plagiarism. That’s right, I am talking about LSF and Illit. Both groups withstood the hate storm only to bring sunshine with their amazing comebacks the past year, which I find inspiring. Did anyone else enjoy LSF and Illit more after seeing how K-pop stans rolled out a whole hate campaign against these young women? Jellyous dance is going viral and LSF are become international darlings like Kateyez whom I also love. I’m proud of these groups and their maturity! submitted by /u/EducationalPersonel [link] [comments]

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I just watched a Chimchakman podcast episode that was uploaded some months ago where NMIXX were the guests. At one point, the host brought up JYPE’s monthly evaluations, and Haewon shared her thoughts on what it really takes to debut as an idol. She said it’s not simply about having the best visuals or the strongest skills. Those alone don’t guarantee anything. Other factors like “star quality” or whether you fit the concept of the group the label is building also may come into play, but the one factor she highlighted above all was timing and luck. She explained that even if a trainee has all the talent and star quality in the world, if the company isn’t planning to debut a boy group at that time, there’s no chance. And as trainees get older, their chances shrink even more, since in the unfortunate reality of the industry, age often works against them. The NMIXX girls reinforced that point by recalling that they had seen far too many trainees who clearly had what it takes to debut, but whose opportunities slipped away because of circumstances like that. Diving into the core of the discussion, they went deeper into the topic of monthly evaluations. When it came to the monthly evaluations, Haewon clarified that they aren’t exactly score-based. Instead, JYPE looks at whether trainees are improving or stagnating to decide if they should continue training. More than anything else, though, “daily attitude/behavior” and “class evaluations” carried the most weight. It’s not that the monthly evaluations are meaningless per se, but day-to-day conduct mattered most. A trainee could have the best visuals, incredible vocals, and flawless dancing, but if their attitude is poor, their chances took a massive hit. According to her, JYPE even has a point penalty system similar to Korean schools. Trainees who accumulate penalty points from poor behavior and daily conduct can be suspended, and in the worst cases, expelled altogether. This lines up with something I’d read before. Back in 2018, on a Japanese community post, Mako’s mother (from NiziU) gave advice to another parent asking about JYPE trainee life. She explained that the company values character more than raw talent. In her words, trainees are expected to show proper lifestyle habits and personal growth. If they don’t, and even slightly display a bad attitude, their contracts can be terminated immediately. And of course, we’ve also all heard TWICE members talk about how much importance JYPE places on maintaining good character for the trainees. I found all of this really interesting because if I were running a label myself, I probably would’ve leaned toward prioritizing the most talented or best looking trainees first and foremost. Of course, attitude matters, but as long as they're not committing major crimes, I’m not sure if I’d put it above everything else the way JYPE does. Maybe I’m just biased because I’ve always had a soft spot for the rebellious types. What do you guys think? Is JYPE too strict with enforcing good character, or is this actually the smarter long-term approach compared to chasing pure talent and visuals? This is the link to the full episode if anyone's interested in watching. submitted by /u/Acrobatic_Prize_7749 [link] [comments]

Honestly, I don’t think any fandom causes as much chaos as aespa stans do. It feels like almost every hate train in recent years has their fingerprints on it. Whenever a new girl group starts gaining traction, they’re right there spreading rumors, flooding hate, and making unnecessary comparisons. The most ironic part is how they love to lecture everyone about “misogyny in K-pop,” but they’re probably the most misogynistic fandom out there. The way they talk about other female idols is disgusting: reducing talented artists to “aespa copycats,” attacking looks, sexualizing them, or downplaying their achievements. As if aespa were the only girl group that deserves success. And now, more recently, they’ve started throwing hate at Cortis (who aren’t even direct competition). Like… what’s the point? It’s not enough to attack groups in the same lane, they have to go after anyone who gets attention. The problem isn’t liking aespa (no one’s blaming the girls themselves, they’re talented), it’s the fandom acting like they have the right to be judge, jury, and executioner of the whole industry. They talk about misogyny but reinforce it every single day by tearing down other women in the industry. They preach “peace in K-pop,” but they’re the ones fueling hate trains nonstop. At the end of the day, aespa stans have become exactly what they claim to fight against. submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

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I don’t know if anyone else feels this way, but K-pop is getting more and more boring — and honestly, I think most of the blame goes to the fans themselves. Back then, groups could experiment more, release different concepts, idols had space to show personality and even make human mistakes. Now, it feels like everything has to be “perfect” because every tiny slip turns into a hate wave. Literally no one can breathe wrong without trending on Twitter. This creates a toxic environment where companies and idols end up always choosing the safest path, resulting in songs, concepts, and even interactions that feel increasingly generic. Another point is how fandoms are constantly at war with each other. Instead of supporting music, creativity, or performance, everything becomes a competition: “Who has more views?”, “Who got more wins?”, “Whose fancam went viral?”. This mindset suffocates any attempt at innovation, because the fear of flopping or becoming a joke weighs more than artistic risk-taking. And let’s not even start with the obsession over visuals. Idols are discarded for not fitting into the unrealistic beauty standard that fans themselves reinforce. At the same time, talented idols get hated on for the most random things — from their accent, to their looks, to simply being too popular. This discourages both the artists and the industry. In the end, I don’t think K-pop became boring because idols lost talent or creativity, but because the fandom culture turned into a machine of pressure and toxicity. Companies just follow whatever causes “less trouble,” idols hide who they are, and everything ends up looking the same. Anyway, that’s just my opinion. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I overreacting? submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

More specifically, I'm talking about Giselle and even more specific i'm talking about clothes. I hate when groups have this only member looking so different from the rest, like standing out in a way if feels like a feat. At first, I thought this type of mistreatment was inexistent, and actually a strategy from companies to us make more big of a deal with these less known idols but this is rarely used. I just realized it's just more of a "filler member" thing. Like in 2nd gen when this type of mistreatment was seen with Hyoyeon, but people didn't care at all since she was just considered a side rapper/dancer right along with her visuals which weren't acceptable in the KBS so it was just like "Oh, she's ugly so her clothes doesn't matter at all". Like with Wendy Red Velvet, Jeongyeon from Twice and many others big girl groups who's company don't care about them visually so treat them as "Fillers" or how I like to call:Feats who have a position. It's crazy that you can't be one of the most important parts (Technically speaking) in your group, but still if you're not incredibly stunning your company will throw you at the back. If you're years in a group, it'll definitely make a big deal for me how your company treats you. It's a competitive place, you can be replaced anytime, but when you already earned your spot and your company still acts like you're some replaceable trainee it's really disrespectful. I would be like "Btch? Part of me makes you gain money, dumbass." And while I'm talking about AESPA, NingNing was also a "Victim" of ugly clothes and being in the back, but she lost enough weight to be seem again by her company and that's my best guess because In their debut/comeback she was also caught with some ridiculous fits too. The fact she's a lead vocalist has not much to do about it. submitted by /u/0110I1I [link] [comments]

Here's mine: Blackpink: Shut down, lovesick girls, pink venom Le sserafim: Antifragile, smart, come over Twice: Strategy, one spark, what is love? Aespa: Supernova, armageddon, drama Ive: Crush, heya, i am I-dle: Queencard, nxde, hwaa Itzy: Imaginary friend, dalla dalla, cake Stray kids: Chk chk boom, maniac, s-class Enhypen: Bite me, drunk-dazed, moonstruck Bts: Dynamite, butter, miss right Txt: Upside down kiss, deja vu, love language Groups i casually listen to but im still adding them: Red velvet: Cosmic, feel my rhythm, psycho Girls' generation: The boys, gee, into the new world Illit: Magnetic, do the dance, cherish my love Newjeans/njz (they used to be my ults i miss them sm): Bubblegum, ditto, hype boy Momoland: Baam, wrap me in plastic, bboom boom Soloists(both actually solo and from groups): Rosé: Apt,toxic till the end, 3am Jisoo: Flower, your love, earthquake Jennie: Spot, ExtraL, seoul city Lisa: Rockstar, born again, dream Nayeon: Pop, abcd, no problem Minnie: Cherry sky, blind eyes red, obsession Jungkook: Seven, 3D, still with you J-hope: Monalisa, killin it girl, sweet dreams Kai: Rover,wait on me, adult swim Joy: Hello, love splash, Je' taime Iu: Lilac, blueming, good day Bibi: Vengeance, scott and zelda, bam yang gang submitted by /u/Electronic_Fix_4551 [link] [comments]

Gosh... I love watching this group! These girls really know how to sell a performance. They work the camera effortlessly and just radiate charisma. Lately, I’ve also noticed how much better they’ve gotten with fan interactions. I’ve never been someone who’s into aegyo, but they really know how to make it work without making it feel too forceful. Everything they do just feels so natural and easy. We’re honestly blessed to have a group like this in this era. They have good discography, ethereal vocals, and captivating dancing, they truly have it all. My only regret is not being able to see them live during this tour... please, I’m begging you HYBE and Source Music... add more cities next time. I've been vicariously experiencing the concert through fancams but it just makes me even more upset that I’m not there T.T submitted by /u/Carelessies [link] [comments]