Aespa stans are probably the most unbearable K-pop fans right now

Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Now, we've been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) He lives in a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Sittin' by myself, I'm just thinkin' About all I've been through, I wish I was dreamin' Man, it's hard to be an angel when you surrounded by demons (Jesus, Lord) I watched so many people leave I see 'em change by the season, that's mama's seasonin' God got you, the devil's watchin', he just peekin' in I know I made a promise that I'd never let the reaper in (Jesus) But lately, I've been losin' all my deepest friends (Lord) And lately, I've been swimmin' on the deepest end It's just drugs, it ain't no hugs, it ain't no love there You been down so much you don't even know what's upstairs Suicidal thoughts got you wonderin' what's up there (Jesus, Lord) And while I introduce the party, they say it's up there Too many pills, so much potions, so much pain, too many emotions And everything that you do good, it just go unnoticed (Jesus) Then they tell you that you good and just stay focused (Lord) Mama, you was the life of the party I swear you brought life to the party When you lost your life, it took the life out the party (Jesus) That woman rode with me like a Harley (Lord) Visions of my cousins in a cell really scarred me Movin' to the hood was like signin' up for the army 'Cause they been killin' n- since n- was watchin' Barney (Jesus) You want dreams to come true? But I have nightmares (Lord) 'Cause if that come to life, then I might not be right here Been in the dark so long, don't know if the light here But I'm just reachin' for the stars like Buzz Lightyear (Jesus) And now I'm light years ahead of those nightmares (Lord) I deaded those night terrors when the night clears And if I talk to Christ, can I bring my mother back to life? And if I die tonight, will I see her in the afterlife? (Jesus) But back to reality where everything's a tragedy (Lord) And better have a strategy or you could be a statistic Little boy dies, he's just one of the mystic And mama steady cryin' 'cause she really the victim (Jesus) Now she's gettin' high and she's gettin' addicted (Lord) And her older boy just stuck with the picture, painted vivid That's a family portrait and her daughter just absorbed it 16, pregnant, baby daddy say she should abort it (Jesus) But we can't afford it, so she decides to move forward (Lord) Baby shower time, father didn't show up Now she just feelin' nauseous like she finna throw up The water flows down her legs, yeah, it's finna go up (Jesus) A year done went by, her daughter just turned one (Lord) And she's still dependent on her mom Big brother in the streets, he went and bought him a gun He want revenge 'cause the pain, feelin' numb (Jesus) And her mom still doin' drugs 'cause that's the only time she feel loved (Lord) But is it real love? Do the scars really heal up? From all the pain that been built up, but they don't feel us (Jesus) A week done flew by, big bro ridin' then he see the guys (Lord) Left his little brother on the side, bleedin' from the side He seein' red, it's like he's bleedin' through his eyes To see him dead, the only thing that'll help the grievin' up inside (Jesus) He even let him get they last meal (Lord) He done with the streets after this, this his last kill He gotta show him that it's that real He ran up on him with the pipe like, "N-, stand still" (Jesus) "You took my brother life, you made my mother cry" (Lord) "Tell me one reason I shouldn't send you up to Christ" He said, "Go 'head, take my life, I've seen everything but Christ" The big bro just blacked out and all you seein' was the light (Jesus, Lord) Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Uh-huh, in the name of the true and living God The beneficent, the merciful (Hallelujah) Thank you for bringin' me up the rough side of the mountain like Ertuğrul (Jesus) Every knee bowed and every tongue confessed and paid homage (Lord) To the monk who visited Rothschilds like Thelonious did Pannonica (sheesh) It's Jay Elec-entendre-nica comin' through your monitor Back from the great beyond, the Son of Man and the son of Donda (Jesus) I never rolled the GXSR or the R6 or the Honda (Lord) But I flew my Ducati through North America like Wakanda Earthquakes will strike this nation for what Bush did to Rwanda (facts) What the Clintons did to Haiti and Downing Street did to Ghana In Tenochtitlan they call me Terremoto, El Negro Loco (Jesus) I shake the tectonic plates of the game if I lay one vocal (Lord) The God is interstellar while you fellas remain local My bars is like the pyramid temples of Pacal Votan (Jesus) As sure as the DOJ confirmed Ezekiel's Wheel (Lord) I could change the world like Yacub with two pieces of steel My sword and my microphone, I swore to the Christ's throne But when you great, they wanna say you took an L, José Castillo (Jesus) I'm in the fight here, fight here, for what seemed like light years (Lord) My rugged cross and thorny crowns squeeze out Christ tears 30 pieces of silver clout, my Pierre price tier It's a war outside, it's a war outside (Jesus) It's like the last days of Sodom and Gomorrah outside (Lord) Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) We've been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) He lives in a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) Been through a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs (Jesus, Lord) What up, Ye? This Larry Hoover Jr. First and foremost, I wanna thank you For taking the fight for my father to the Oval Office You might not have been the only one that could've did that But you were the one that did do that And with your assistance We can continue to let the world take part in this fight You know to me it kinda feels like, me, my mother, my brothers And my kids have all been incarcerated through this journey And we haven't even been to jail We've been looked at and treated as criminals, for being a part of this family My father's truth and the reality that he raised me in Is that he wanted to make a change in this community 'Cause the conditions in this capitalist society Is what made him, and it's what made the children of today After 25 years of bein' locked down, 23 and 1 My father has not called any shots From one of the most secure and segregated prisons in the world And will not, once released Call any of the shots for the Gangster Disciples If my father's intentions were to lead us to death, destruction Into the hell that he has had to live in for the past 26 years Man, he would be dead to me I didn't sign up for that I didn't stay on this journey this long for that All my life, man, I've been waitin' for my father to come home They told me when I graduate eighth grade, he would be home Then they told me when I graduate from high school, he would be home I went away to Morris Brown, I graduated and he still ain't home Now I'm a adult, and my daughter went away to college and graduated He still not home Now even more than that, my son He graduated eighth grade and we still waitin' Matter of fact, he hasn't hugged Kissed, or touched any of his grandchildren And they haven't been able to touch they grandfather Even though it is not seen that way for some of us But for many of us, Larry Hoover is a beacon of hope for his community Who deserves to breathe free air Free my father (Jesus), Mr. Larry Hoover Sr. (Lord) submitted by /u/Once_Or_Twice_ [link] [comments]

Before I get into, I'd like to mention that I'm very into collecting and cherishing physical media. I have a cd-player and about 12 cd's at home, both old and new. I have 2 kpop albums, the chaos chapter freefall and the star chapter together. I have to say, listening to an album from beginning to end with a CD you can actually hold is such an underrated experience. I really do consider kpop albums to be art, they're on another level with amazing inclusions. My favorite examples are Aespa's album that comes with its own cd player and Yeonjuns GGUM packaging. You can clearly tell that staffs put so much effort in them. Thats why I get really bummed out when I see unbought albums ripped open for the photocards, stacks of brand new albums out on the street for the sake of "achievements" and getting into fancalls. These albums are not cherished properly and are bad for the environment as well. The kpop industry is responsible for making album sales such a big deal, but so are kpop stans for prioritizing photocards above everything else. I can't be the only one who thinks this way, right? submitted by /u/Confident_Adagio9893 [link] [comments]

Maybe it’s just me, but I found it really suspicious how NewJeans and aespa suddenly got all “close” right at the peak of the HYBE vs Min Hee-jin drama. Before that, there were barely any interactions between the two groups, and then out of nowhere they’re taking pictures together, praising each other in interviews, and sharing moments at award shows. Not trying to push conspiracy theories, but let’s be real: moves like this in K-pop are rarely innocent. Companies use idols’ images as chess pieces, and this sudden bond feels way more like a strategic move than something natural. Almost like SM and ADOR were sending indirect messages in the middle of this whole narrative war. And it’s funny how some fans sell it as “genuine friendship between the girls” when, realistically, it could’ve just been a calculated PR move. Obviously it’s not the idols’ fault — they just go along with what the companies plan — but I can’t help thinking the timing was way too convenient. submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

I always wonder about this: why do stans hate HYBE so much? From the outside, it’s not really that different from any other big K-pop company. All of them have histories of exploitation, strict control, and shady decisions… so I don’t understand why all the disproportionate hate seems to go directly to HYBE. What I notice is that this narrative mainly comes from Big 3 (SM, YG, JYP) fans. During all that HYBE drama last year, I saw tons of tweets praising the Big 3 like they were saints, while dragging HYBE and its groups, almost like it was some status war. But if you look closer, the Big 3 also have long histories of scandals, mistreatment, and practices just as bad — if not worse. It feels like, deep down, it’s more about fandom rivalry and company hierarchy than actual critique. HYBE grew too fast, challenged the old system, and that bothered people who were used to the Big 3 monopoly. So now, hating HYBE has become a way to “defend tradition” in the industry. At the end of the day, none of these companies are innocent, but the way HYBE gets singled out feels really selective to me. Does anyone else notice this double standard, or do you think HYBE is actually worse than the others in some way? submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

Let’s Build a Multinational Girl Group! Day 2 - The Philippines Let’s Build a Multinational Girl Group! Let’s build a girl group with each member representing a different Asian country! Here are the rules: 1) Comment only 1 girl per country along with a picture. 2) They DO NOT have to be from a K-Pop group specifically, but they do have to be from a girl group! 3) Bi-racial idols are allowed, however, if they win for one category, they are ineligible for another. 4) Votes will be calculated after 24 hours. Sophia of KATSETE is our Filipina representative!! Next up, mainland China! I made the decision to keep mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan all completely separate simply because of the amount of idols from those places. South Korea: Jihyo (TWICE) The Philippines: Sophia (KATSEYE) Once we complete this chart, we’ll do the same with a bit group! submitted by /u/sailormusic [link] [comments]

I’ve been thinking about this for a while and wanted to know if anyone else feels the same: groups like hearts2hearts, meovv, and kiiikiii have good concepts, decent songs, and polished visuals… but it feels like something is missing that stops them from really standing out. It’s like they’ve got the nice packaging, but they can’t quite create that impact that grabs the public’s attention. It’s not that they’re bad, but it seems like they’re lacking some kind of “X factor” — whether it’s stronger charisma, a clearer musical identity, or just a more distinct angle in the scene. With so many groups debuting nowadays, just having good songs and concepts isn’t enough. You need to build a narrative, create a real connection with the audience, and offer something nobody else is offering. And with these groups, it always feels like they’re almost there… but never quite hitting the mark. Does anyone else feel this way? Or do you think it’s just a matter of time before they find their identity and really break through? submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

I wasn’t a big fan of these 2 groups until I saw every fandom piling on them due to either so called poor live performance and vocals or alleged plagiarism. That’s right, I am talking about LSF and Illit. Both groups withstood the hate storm only to bring sunshine with their amazing comebacks the past year, which I find inspiring. Did anyone else enjoy LSF and Illit more after seeing how K-pop stans rolled out a whole hate campaign against these young women? Jellyous dance is going viral and LSF are become international darlings like Kateyez whom I also love. I’m proud of these groups and their maturity! submitted by /u/EducationalPersonel [link] [comments]

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I just watched a Chimchakman podcast episode that was uploaded some months ago where NMIXX were the guests. At one point, the host brought up JYPE’s monthly evaluations, and Haewon shared her thoughts on what it really takes to debut as an idol. She said it’s not simply about having the best visuals or the strongest skills. Those alone don’t guarantee anything. Other factors like “star quality” or whether you fit the concept of the group the label is building also may come into play, but the one factor she highlighted above all was timing and luck. She explained that even if a trainee has all the talent and star quality in the world, if the company isn’t planning to debut a boy group at that time, there’s no chance. And as trainees get older, their chances shrink even more, since in the unfortunate reality of the industry, age often works against them. The NMIXX girls reinforced that point by recalling that they had seen far too many trainees who clearly had what it takes to debut, but whose opportunities slipped away because of circumstances like that. Diving into the core of the discussion, they went deeper into the topic of monthly evaluations. When it came to the monthly evaluations, Haewon clarified that they aren’t exactly score-based. Instead, JYPE looks at whether trainees are improving or stagnating to decide if they should continue training. More than anything else, though, “daily attitude/behavior” and “class evaluations” carried the most weight. It’s not that the monthly evaluations are meaningless per se, but day-to-day conduct mattered most. A trainee could have the best visuals, incredible vocals, and flawless dancing, but if their attitude is poor, their chances took a massive hit. According to her, JYPE even has a point penalty system similar to Korean schools. Trainees who accumulate penalty points from poor behavior and daily conduct can be suspended, and in the worst cases, expelled altogether. This lines up with something I’d read before. Back in 2018, on a Japanese community post, Mako’s mother (from NiziU) gave advice to another parent asking about JYPE trainee life. She explained that the company values character more than raw talent. In her words, trainees are expected to show proper lifestyle habits and personal growth. If they don’t, and even slightly display a bad attitude, their contracts can be terminated immediately. And of course, we’ve also all heard TWICE members talk about how much importance JYPE places on maintaining good character for the trainees. I found all of this really interesting because if I were running a label myself, I probably would’ve leaned toward prioritizing the most talented or best looking trainees first and foremost. Of course, attitude matters, but as long as they're not committing major crimes, I’m not sure if I’d put it above everything else the way JYPE does. Maybe I’m just biased because I’ve always had a soft spot for the rebellious types. What do you guys think? Is JYPE too strict with enforcing good character, or is this actually the smarter long-term approach compared to chasing pure talent and visuals? This is the link to the full episode if anyone's interested in watching. submitted by /u/Acrobatic_Prize_7749 [link] [comments]

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I don’t know if anyone else feels this way, but K-pop is getting more and more boring — and honestly, I think most of the blame goes to the fans themselves. Back then, groups could experiment more, release different concepts, idols had space to show personality and even make human mistakes. Now, it feels like everything has to be “perfect” because every tiny slip turns into a hate wave. Literally no one can breathe wrong without trending on Twitter. This creates a toxic environment where companies and idols end up always choosing the safest path, resulting in songs, concepts, and even interactions that feel increasingly generic. Another point is how fandoms are constantly at war with each other. Instead of supporting music, creativity, or performance, everything becomes a competition: “Who has more views?”, “Who got more wins?”, “Whose fancam went viral?”. This mindset suffocates any attempt at innovation, because the fear of flopping or becoming a joke weighs more than artistic risk-taking. And let’s not even start with the obsession over visuals. Idols are discarded for not fitting into the unrealistic beauty standard that fans themselves reinforce. At the same time, talented idols get hated on for the most random things — from their accent, to their looks, to simply being too popular. This discourages both the artists and the industry. In the end, I don’t think K-pop became boring because idols lost talent or creativity, but because the fandom culture turned into a machine of pressure and toxicity. Companies just follow whatever causes “less trouble,” idols hide who they are, and everything ends up looking the same. Anyway, that’s just my opinion. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I overreacting? submitted by /u/Sensitive-Wing1066 [link] [comments]

More specifically, I'm talking about Giselle and even more specific i'm talking about clothes. I hate when groups have this only member looking so different from the rest, like standing out in a way if feels like a feat. At first, I thought this type of mistreatment was inexistent, and actually a strategy from companies to us make more big of a deal with these less known idols but this is rarely used. I just realized it's just more of a "filler member" thing. Like in 2nd gen when this type of mistreatment was seen with Hyoyeon, but people didn't care at all since she was just considered a side rapper/dancer right along with her visuals which weren't acceptable in the KBS so it was just like "Oh, she's ugly so her clothes doesn't matter at all". Like with Wendy Red Velvet, Jeongyeon from Twice and many others big girl groups who's company don't care about them visually so treat them as "Fillers" or how I like to call:Feats who have a position. It's crazy that you can't be one of the most important parts (Technically speaking) in your group, but still if you're not incredibly stunning your company will throw you at the back. If you're years in a group, it'll definitely make a big deal for me how your company treats you. It's a competitive place, you can be replaced anytime, but when you already earned your spot and your company still acts like you're some replaceable trainee it's really disrespectful. I would be like "Btch? Part of me makes you gain money, dumbass." And while I'm talking about AESPA, NingNing was also a "Victim" of ugly clothes and being in the back, but she lost enough weight to be seem again by her company and that's my best guess because In their debut/comeback she was also caught with some ridiculous fits too. The fact she's a lead vocalist has not much to do about it. submitted by /u/0110I1I [link] [comments]

Here's mine: Blackpink: Shut down, lovesick girls, pink venom Le sserafim: Antifragile, smart, come over Twice: Strategy, one spark, what is love? Aespa: Supernova, armageddon, drama Ive: Crush, heya, i am I-dle: Queencard, nxde, hwaa Itzy: Imaginary friend, dalla dalla, cake Stray kids: Chk chk boom, maniac, s-class Enhypen: Bite me, drunk-dazed, moonstruck Bts: Dynamite, butter, miss right Txt: Upside down kiss, deja vu, love language Groups i casually listen to but im still adding them: Red velvet: Cosmic, feel my rhythm, psycho Girls' generation: The boys, gee, into the new world Illit: Magnetic, do the dance, cherish my love Newjeans/njz (they used to be my ults i miss them sm): Bubblegum, ditto, hype boy Momoland: Baam, wrap me in plastic, bboom boom Soloists(both actually solo and from groups): Rosé: Apt,toxic till the end, 3am Jisoo: Flower, your love, earthquake Jennie: Spot, ExtraL, seoul city Lisa: Rockstar, born again, dream Nayeon: Pop, abcd, no problem Minnie: Cherry sky, blind eyes red, obsession Jungkook: Seven, 3D, still with you J-hope: Monalisa, killin it girl, sweet dreams Kai: Rover,wait on me, adult swim Joy: Hello, love splash, Je' taime Iu: Lilac, blueming, good day Bibi: Vengeance, scott and zelda, bam yang gang submitted by /u/Electronic_Fix_4551 [link] [comments]

Gosh... I love watching this group! These girls really know how to sell a performance. They work the camera effortlessly and just radiate charisma. Lately, I’ve also noticed how much better they’ve gotten with fan interactions. I’ve never been someone who’s into aegyo, but they really know how to make it work without making it feel too forceful. Everything they do just feels so natural and easy. We’re honestly blessed to have a group like this in this era. They have good discography, ethereal vocals, and captivating dancing, they truly have it all. My only regret is not being able to see them live during this tour... please, I’m begging you HYBE and Source Music... add more cities next time. I've been vicariously experiencing the concert through fancams but it just makes me even more upset that I’m not there T.T submitted by /u/Carelessies [link] [comments]

LE SSERAFIM is probably the 4th-generation group with the best balance of growth and stability in their career right now. They’ve been doing well with each of their comebacks, but their growth feels more stable—not too overwhelming, and of course, not underwhelming either. Their stats for each comeback have been consistently growing at a good pace. That said, I think that’s a good thing because they don’t have too much pressure for each release to top the previous one. As a result, they have more freedom to explore, which is also why their music is diverse yet still consistent with their fearless identity. submitted by /u/why_dmn [link] [comments]

-ZBTVing (World tour Special), not the typical 20 minutes episodes, good 1 hour long ones, traveling in each members hometown/homecountries and that members become the "tour guide" for the trip. As a Canadian Zerose, nothing would make me happier than seeing them visit Vancouver and Matthew showing them around the city! -Matthew's cooking show, imma need the recipe to his protein pancakes to see if Ricky is truly on to something... -Gyuvin & Hanbin mukbang show trying out different restaurants and cuisines. I absolutely love the 2binz vlogs, they mostly go to restaurants in them so i feel like a mukbang series would be accurate to them -Zhanh Hao's hotpot variety show, he mentioned multiple times that he wants to open his own Hotpot restaurant in Korea, i would love for him to have his own show, invite guest, have hotpot together and discuss abt anything, I feel like it's only right for Yuqi to be the first guest -More of the members original songs and writting process behind the scenes -Say Yes by Matthew on Spotify, PLEASE!! submitted by /u/42_Yudoz [link] [comments]

Welcome to "The Ultimate K-pop Performer" Day 4 ! Day 3 was "Who is the kpop performer with the best Stage Presence." The winners are : Female idols : 👑) Syheon 2) Seulgi 3) Nayeon Male Idols : 👑)Hongjoong 2) San 3) Kai/J-Hope Today, we go for the Kpop Performer with the best rapping skills. Simply comment with the name of the idol you think deserves this title. The idols both males and females with the most upvotes on their comment after 24 hours will be the winner for this category. An Idol can't be in two categories except for the "GOAT" Day 5 will be "Who is the Kpop performer with the best live vocals ?" Spoiler : That's Lily submitted by /u/Gullible_Gear_5543 [link] [comments]

I’m a woman and I mostly listen to GGs and attend GG concerts. Recently I’ve been wanting to share some appreciation with the fanboys that truly show up for and support their fave groups. I think there’s often a question that comes up about why BGs tend to have more successful fandoms than GGs, and I think the answer is simple: a lot of women prefer bgs and a lot of men prefer ggs, but society views this kind of fan behavior as “feminine”, and discourages men who engage in it. Both toxic masculinity not allowing men to express themselves that way, and women who deem it as “weird” or “creepy”. But that has totally not been my experience. I recently went to VIVIZ and was super impressed by all the fanboys who were super excited to engage with the show, sing and dance along and just support their faves. I also went to LSFM and handed out freebies and all the fanboys I met were super polite and respectful, appreciated the freebies and complimented my outfit just like it was BG show. One of my fave groups, QWER, is touring soon and their fanbase is known for being majority male. All the Bawiges I’ve been chatting with leading up to the tour are super nice and supportive of the banner project and freebies I’m planning to make. Some people at other stops have also planned banners as well. As a GG stan it sometimes feels like an uphill battle when it comes to getting people hyped up to support them, so whenever I see fanboys being super active and engaging and supporting their faves fully, it truly makes me happy. And it’s a side note, but female fans of BGs can also be extremely weird and creepy. We’ve recently had incidents like a fan at Ateez send off asking one of them (San or Mingi?) if he “prefers chocolate or vanilla”, had a fan try to kiss Jin without consent, women showing up in lingerie in fancalls, and fully grown women lusting after underage members of Cortis. There’s issues and weirdos in all fandoms and while I’m sure I’m bound to meet some weirdo fanboys as well, I just don’t find the idea that fanboys are somehow weirder than fangirls to be fair or true at all. I know the social climate in Korea also may be different, so I’m just talking about my experience as an American meeting other American fans. submitted by /u/talixsims [link] [comments]