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Is it bad to say I have little hope for Xnghan (Seunghan)?

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When it comes to the success of an idol people look towards their international success and then their homeland success. I think it is not rash to argue that the South Korean public are likely not going to be tuning into - given that they are the ones that wanted him gone in the first place. Perhaps that’s the reason SM has stuck those other two boys with him, to give him some sort of push. On the other hand, international fans are talking a big game at supporting him as a solo artist and making sure to tune in and stream but I will have to see it to believe it. Perhaps I am just being pessimistic. Briize can argue that RIIZE are doing well as a band- and I suppose they are in South Korea, but if the Seunghan scandal had not occurred they would be miles above the level they are at now internationallay. It is evident that SM are pushing their other Gen5 boygroup NCT Wish way more because they have more public support in South Korea (and have even started their next with the way they dragged those trainees to SMTOWN tour). A lot of people tuned out of RIIZE because of the whole unfair treatment scenario so Xnghan has lost a lot of support there too. As someone who attended SMTOWN in London, everyone knew Boom Boom Bass since it was one of their early songs, but once Fly Up started the crowd was much quieter (i will say this could be down to less English words). There has definitely been lower numbers of fans between RIIZING and ODYSSEY, which will also effect the amount of people who are aware of and willing to support. I suppose there is still time for international fans to get back on with RIIZE, I see it being younger fans. His debut has got to be something very well marketed and also impressive to win people back on his side. It is a shame that a young boy has lost a career and years and hours of work and effort to some people who believe they have authority over strangers, and I do hope this all works for him, but I also cannot see him doing exceedingly well. submitted by /u/Extra-Tumbleweed7062 [link] [comments]

4.184. I really hate the way some fans are using kpop idol’s death for clout.

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It’s honestly so frustrating and disrespectful how some people immediately turn a tragedy into an opportunity for attention. A K-pop idol just passed away, and instead of focusing on mourning, offering support, or just being quiet and respectful, you see posts and comments that feel performative like people are trying to be the “most devastated” or are using it as a way to farm likes, followers, or retweets. Some even start drama or fanwars under memorial posts, which is just disgusting. I get that we all grieve differently, but there’s a line between genuine grief and exploiting someone’s death for engagement. It feels like the actual person who passed is being treated more like a trending topic than a human being. Please remember they were real someone’s child, someone’s friend, not just a celebrity or a headline. Let people grieve respectfully. Stop chasing clout over someone’s loss. submitted by /u/Consistent-Pop-8879 [link] [comments]

4.185. The Future of NCT: a discussion on the contract renewals (this became very Yuta focused apologies for not an equal amount of discussion on each member)

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I have seen a post circulating twt and tiktok about how NCT 127 contract renewals are soon and i have some thoughts and would like to hear from other people too. I also like participating in doom thoughts. There are some obvious answers for which way the members will go. I think Taeyong will stay, he has been a favourited member (yeah the company is harsh on him but he has two albums, a tour that was filmed and put into cinemas internationally, it is likely he’ll ask for a few more niceties from the company in the future but I don’t see SM letting him go easily (he was a JaeJoong replacement after all)). I also see Ten in a similar light. Doyoung and Jeahyun too I see renewing their contracts. I really don’t see a reason why they wouldn’t (if you want to enlighten me on any particular reasons feel free) On the other side of obvious answers: most foreign members. No surprise SM doesn’t care for their non-Korean members. Ten is not even an exception to this rule but he has a very strong fan base (something I have noticed with many Thai idols) which is why i have grouped him with Taeyong at the start. Yuta is (i think) very obviously not renewing - at least for solo work. As someone who‘s ult bias is Yuta it would be sad to see him go. SM was looking for their first Japanese trainee, he made it through their international auditions and they picked him, worked him hard, and then repaid him with two lines in every title track - yes even their Japanese singles. (Only more recently getting a line beyond ‘mono-drama, melodrama‘) He is the reason NCT got popular in Japan in the first place, and yet they can’t even treat him fairly (missing his face in the intro to NCT Nation) The 7th Sense unit all got solo work published and marketed pretty fairly (although sometimes not scheduled well but when you have 4 units and many solo artists and members enlisting i assume it can be quite difficult). When it comes to Yuta’s solo work Depth was announced the day before it released, people thought it was going to be released after or during his tour. The BTS content is minimal in comparison to everyone else’s and even other content is behind a paywall. If you want to see the lack of promotion go to the NCT instagram page and go through the highlights for each member’s solo work and see how many posts they made in comparison to Yuta. In the most recent NCT 127 video for their 9th anniversary, the discussion of what they want for their 10th anniversary comes up and each member says something apart from Yuta (I can acknowledge he was fresh off a plane from Japan and his concert). The disengagement with 127 content recently could either be down to Taeyong and Jaehyun (two of close friends within the group) not being there, or just simply he sees a future beyond the band, or perhaps both. He does also have 127 tattooed on his arm in a padlock so the band must mean something significant for him to have done that in the first place. I have seen him reject what it means to be an idol in a sense in more recent years, I don’t think he particularly cares for the model, he doesn’t do trends, he doesn’t do tiktoks unless its for a member specifically, he doesn’t massively play into parasocial relationships. If he left the band entirely i would understand why and be a little surprised (I would be upset of course I think he is a big part of the band). I most likely believe he might go down a SHINee/ Red Velvet route and just resign for the band and not his solo work. (this turned into a Yuta think piece I apologise) Mark and Haechan i think would stay too. I think whatever they chose to do they would do it together, a sort of package deal with these guys. Maybe they make a plea for better organisation between 127 and Dream schedules, but I do not see them leaving. Despite the overworking the two of them seem to be pretty well favoured, Mark being the most obvious show of the two. I think Mark could ask for anything and get it, he is essentially the poster boy for NCT and a very well known idol under SM, i doubt they would let him go without a tough fight. Haechan I think would go with whatever Mark does, i think that they have been through so much together already they wouldn’t separate. Johnny is a wild card in this. Rejected from EXO, almost left the company, debuted with 127 later than the original line up… he is now doing pretty well in the business and reputation side of their band, I see him invited to a lot of events and such, he also DJs on the side which I guess is what he is doing rather than doing a traditional solo album? (Although seeing the crowds piss me off because why are people just stood recording him instead of dancing in the clubs/ events please you are making this awkward for everyone involved just put your phone away and vibe). Maybe it is the lack of him doing anything anywhere in NCT songs that makes me have this view of him not making a solo album. I think he would be a good host and i hope to see more of host Johnny in the future, something like Nopogy or Muk2u would've suited him really well. I don’t know to what extent it would be worth Johnny not renewing his contract As i do not know what he would be doing. Jungwoo I think would stay, but this is down to the fact he hasn’t had a lot of solo work so I really don’t know how it would pan out for him. He has mentioned a solo album and I assume he’d release it under SM, he also has Nopogy which is pretty successful and enjoyed by many fans. (i am not sure as to when Jungwoo’s contract will expire due to him debuting later than the others). NCT Dream (I am pretty sure they have a couple more years), Renjun perhaps will follow a route similar to Yuta, depending how the future pans for Chenle him too. (It is known that a lot of Chinese k-pop idols go back to China and are very successful). The Korean members (at this point in time) would likely stay. I am not too sure if WayV contracts even run at a parallel time to 127 or not- but their case confuses me entirely because I cannot decide whether they would stay at all? The consistent mistreatment, the lack of popularity compared to other units. I see the members being very dedicated to their band and they likely stay despite what pessimism is telling me, i am sensing a case of Them being able to pursue solo work individually and not through SM. Also: this is all from outsiders perspective with what the members and company have displayed over the years, obviously this is JUST SPECULATION, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions on this situation. submitted by /u/Extra-Tumbleweed7062 [link] [comments]

4.186. can I have some girl group suggestions please :)

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I did a similar post a few days ago for boy groups and I got a lot of responses, while also being introduced to a lot of good songs that I missed out on. I have come to realise that I have more bg music in my playlist then gg so I want to change that slightly. I think overall I do prefer boy groups but I want to open up a bit more and try new things I OBVIOUSLY know black pink and have heard quite a lot of their songs. Aespa is also another group that I enjoy. other than that I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm not really into the super cute concepts or anything that's too bubblegum pop...pls help if you can lol submitted by /u/Thick-Yesterday-761 [link] [comments]

4.187. “Golden” by HUNTR/X, EJAE, AUDREY NUNA & REI AMI from the KPop Demon Hunters OST rises to a new peak of #6 on the Billboard Hot 100

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4.188. What is the most iconic hairstyle worn by your favorite idol?

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4.189. Why do companies continue to use AI when there's always negative reactions? Don't they read?

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I just saw Everglow's post and it really is AI (I don't know, but I think they are without a company??), but like, we've seen several cases so far of companies using AI, there's always a negative reaction, but they keep doing it the same way. I know it could be to cut costs, and I can even try to understand smaller companies with "nugu" groups. Well, I'm not against AI; I do research myself. But when it comes to art and content sales, It's so dishonest. Besides, it's also quite poorly done. submitted by /u/azio_o [link] [comments]

4.190. What’s the difference between bighit and hybe?

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I’ve been seeing a lot of posts about the new BigHit boy group, and it made me wonder—what’s the actual difference between BigHit and HYBE? Did BigHit just change their name to HYBE, or are they now separate companies? I’m a bit confused and would appreciate someone explaining how they’re related. submitted by /u/Consistent-Pop-8879 [link] [comments]

4.191. ROSÉ (BLACKPINK) & PSY - APT. @ PSY SOAKING SHOW SUMMER SWAG 2025 (250628)

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4.192. pre debut line ups and fans expectations

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Seeing the announcement of the debut of the new big hit boy group made me thing about trainee A. For those who do know Trainee A was a predebut boy group under big hit that its debut got cancelled. I didn’t keep up with them. But I’m aware that the member Leo got into some controversy that made him decide to leave the team. The point of the discussion it’s not about the members as individuals, but the expectations that people put into predebut groups and the disappointment that leads many immature people to hate and keep comparing each other. There are several exemples of “what if” like ADP Youngseo, that was a predebut member of ILLIT, even a trainee of predebut newjeans or ADP Woonchan who was part of Trainee A. So my take is that we need to stop thinking about the “what ifs”. There is nothing wrong with it but ONLY doing this will take you nowhere. The amount of comparison youngseo and illit are getting it’s insane. And I’m sure new the bh bg will too. It’s tiering to see people stuck in the past. That is why is a double edge sword for the companies to decide to announce their predebut group waaaaay before their debut. (Ik that illit was formed through a survival show so that wasn’t a possibility but many others could have been avoided.) Even babymonster, but in their case I think it was helpful cause the fans wanted all of them to debut and yg just wanted 5 (or he did that just for more audience, who knows). What are your thoughts about this? submitted by /u/primrose-violet [link] [comments]

4.193. Is it bad to say I have little hope for Xnghan (Seunghan)?

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When it comes to the success of an idol people look towards their international success and then their homeland success. I think it is not rash to argue that the South Korean public are likely not going to be tuning into - given that they are the ones that wanted him gone in the first place. Perhaps that’s the reason SM has stuck those other two boys with him, to give him some sort of push. On the other hand, international fans are talking a big game at supporting him as a solo artist and making sure to tune in and stream but I will have to see it to believe it. Perhaps I am just being pessimistic. Briize can argue that RIIZE are doing well as a band- and I suppose they are in South Korea, but if the Seunghan scandal had not occurred they would be miles above the level they are at now internationallay. It is evident that SM are pushing their other Gen5 boygroup NCT Wish way more because they have more public support in South Korea (and have even started their next with the way they dragged those trainees to SMTOWN tour). A lot of people tuned out of RIIZE because of the whole unfair treatment scenario so Xnghan has lost a lot of support there too. As someone who attended SMTOWN in London, everyone knew Boom Boom Bass since it was one of their early songs, but once Fly Up started the crowd was much quieter (i will say this could be down to less English words). There has definitely been lower numbers of fans between RIIZING and ODYSSEY, which will also effect the amount of people who are aware of and willing to support. I suppose there is still time for international fans to get back on with RIIZE, I see it being younger fans. His debut has got to be something very well marketed and also impressive to win people back on his side. It is a shame that a young boy has lost a career and years and hours of work and effort to some people who believe they have authority over strangers, and I do hope this all works for him, but I also cannot see him doing exceedingly well. submitted by /u/Extra-Tumbleweed7062 [link] [comments]

4.194. Sometimes a disbandment provides more clarity than the grp theoretically existing but never being seen together

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For the last 4-5 years straight to the point disbandments have become rare and a lot of grps unofficial disband,with the group existing on paper but being inactive for years. On one hand,I can't lie,I get it,the members want to keep the group brand for their solo activities,they don't want to loose fans,etc. But on the other hand,when it's been years and years without even a public appearance from the group together it gets confusing and you can't quite pinpoint where their career as a group is. You start accepting they're practically disbanded and then the company or even the members themselves announced they haven't disbanded just to go back to radio silence again. This is not a rant,it's just me expressing my desire for clarity when it's pretty clear the grp's path together has come to an end. I honestly prefer the truth over having even a slight hope for a group that won't come back,even if deep down I know they disbanded. I like a lot of group who are at this point in their career and I would love some clarity. Tho,like I said earlier,it's a pretty complex issue and you can't officially disband the group if the members want to use the brand for solo activities. To those who have faves in similar situations,what do you guys think? Would you prefer the group existing,even if it's just on paper or an official disbandment announcement? submitted by /u/Alive-Pitch-9180 [link] [comments]

4.195. G-Dragon is amazing! he is hailed as the King of KPop and I was blown away when he performs on stage.

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Also saw reels of GD’s latest concert tour 2025 and he is just so talented and his stage presence is on another level… and listened to his song “untitled2014” for the first time and oh my gosh it is so, so beautiful. 🥰 submitted by /u/Fine_Sun9370 [link] [comments]

4.196. controversial opinions about this sub, and other kpop subs on reddit?

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4.197. People who mod and participate on NJDrama may be getting banned from r/kpopthoughts

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4.198. what were SM thinking when it came to handling LUCAS (post-NCT)?

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Lucas conversation in the big 2025? I want to preface this by saying I became an NCTzens after he left the band so any errors please let me know politely. When it comes to his situation people either hate him or stan him and there’s barely anyone standing in that middle ground. I’m not here to discuss the validity of the evidence to say he was innocent either- he was gone before I became a fan so I didn’t have any attachment to him at all. Instead of removing him from their company they just held him hostage for two years? Gave him a pity documentary to make people feel bad for him? Never once did they clear up whether or not he guilty with an official statement and evidence- this coming from NCTzens instead. He released a hand written apology when it first occurred, so why go back on it now? Why not address it all at the time it was in its peak? I think that if something had been sorted out then there wouldn’t have been a need for this docu. This documentary was also released before his solo debut (because SM thought that was a good idea) and was most likely supposed to change the public perception of him from being nasty to being someone worth listening to. But if you look at his contribution to their company before this, he ’rapped‘ in WayV, messed up a dance break in NCT2020, and every time he did anything in SuperM he was ridiculed for not being as talented as the others. He previously had never proved to have an exceptional level of talent in.. anything? (it could be argued that SM’s lack of care for their foreign idols is enough of a reason to why they never pushed him) He was just easy on the eyes for some people. I wonder if this links back to the fact SM notably does not get rid of their groups. Apart from their earliest bands they haven’t ever disbanded. SuJu still going, SHINee and Girls Generation too. Aside from all those court cases TVXQ and EXO are still (technically) not disbanded. A more recent one would be the redebut of Seunghan as Xnghan soon to come. And after all that happened they gave him a solo debut with three songs? I don’t know if I pity him or not. The music was -eh. Not good, not terrible. But also not something I added to my playlist. The music video was interesting I suppose. It is also important to note the song they gave him reads as a diss track to the media and the haters. But if you never claim to be innocent of course people are going to not like you? And since that solo debut he‘s been MIA. I don’t know how well it charted if at all, and I also don’t know about streams or views because I frankly don’t care, but his case just interests me. I guess this is just another case of SM entertainment confusing me with their ways. submitted by /u/Extra-Tumbleweed7062 [link] [comments]

4.199. thoughts on kpopthoughts banning snark users?

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they didn't think it was a problem when blackpink was slutshamed, or when new jeans were getting death threats and prayers about them being homeless, but as soon as the bts snark gets traction its an issue? interesting.. submitted by /u/ProfessionalOk7281 [link] [comments]

4.200. It's been exactly 6 years since Day6 released "Time Of Our Life" and the song is still charting

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I think it is absolutely crazy what Day6 has achieved in general and with this song. Even with no properly promoted comebacks this year, they are The KPOP group with the most digital points on Circle Chart this year, more than aespa/IVE for instance who had comebacks The most streamed artist in Youtube Korea, more than GDragon who had comebacks Sold out concerts for multiple days And right now on the Melon charts despite having huge comebacks this year from GD, aespa, IVE, Jennie and many more Time of Our Life which was released exactly 6 years ago is still charting at #28. Can you imagine that's the equivalent of a 2024 song still charting in the Top 30s in 2031 Happy, a 2024 B-side is still charting at #22. Yes that is higher than songs like Rebel Heart or Supernova which we all know was huge last year and Happy is released earlier Welcome To The Show is still charting at#36 You Were Beautiful, a 2017 song is still charting at #35, crazy that a song is still in the Top 40s after 8 years Like Day6's longevity on the charts is honestly so crazy that even without any properly promoted comebacks their songs just wouldn't die. The only other song that has such powerful charting longevity is BTS Spring Day. Imagine how big Day6 next comeback will be and we can probably see a resurgence of these songs again submitted by /u/InterestingSwim6701 [link] [comments]

4.201. Gifs/photos of idols where you can practically HEAR the aura

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For fun :) submitted by /u/Gold_Meaning3688 [link] [comments]

4.202. RM and suga spotted at LA concert 🩷🖤💜

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That budlight can 😭🥹 I love him so much. Also that bucket hat, idk why it's so silly to me. Love them Bangpink crumbs. We need to thank the Lord. We used to pray for this blessing. submitted by /u/acorrnn [link] [comments]

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