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This megathread is about the ongoing dispute within HYBE and the management of sub-label ADOR. Substantial news developments may be posted to the subreddit (outside of the Megathreads). Moderators will only approve posts that focus on statements by relevant parties, official representatives, or legal authorities. Unofficial commentary, fandom activities, speculation, or blind items will not be acceptable. Articles or translations should ideally be presented as neutrally as possible. Titles or content that are obviously sensationalized or intended to persuade readers to one perspective will be removed. English-speaking news outlets that have relatively more neutral reporting include Soompi, Yonhap News, and Korea JoongAng Daily. THIS POST MAY BE LOCKED OR UNLOCKED AT VARYING TIMES based on what the moderators are able to manage during their shifts. Please be patient with us while we work to balance keeping up with the queue and our own lives. DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

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I tried Shazam and chatgbt but they were not able to help me. Can you pls help me find this song title. submitted by /u/Puzzleheaded-Swim926 [link] [comments]

Day 45 Results: TWICE wins by 134 votes! (An absolute wash as expected) Vote for your favorite and as always poll closes in 24 hours! If you're unsure of who to vote for, here's a couple songs to help your decision: SISTAR - So Cool SISTAR - Ma Boy SISTAR - Give It To Me [Kep1er - Galileo](https://youtu.be/_Uvi-FgAsy4?si=CR3R1jjV_8Wf80o6 Kep1er - We Fresh Kep1er - TIPI-TAP First Half Second Half Disclaimer: This tournament is not a “comparison”. The seeds were randomized and I didn’t pick the matchups. The songs picked are amongst their most popular because they’re easy to recognize. If you have another song suggestion you may leave it in the comments but please refrain from complaining about the song not being included. I also try to switch up the listed songs every new round, so the songs you might not know from a group might not be listed as they were listed the previous round. Either way, feel free to recommend them in the comments if you’d like. View Poll submitted by /u/PushOffTheGround [link] [comments]

Obviously, we all have our own opinions and tastes are subjective, but I'll never understand those who make posts like "XYZ disappointed me again" and start ranting about everything they hate. Let me clarify, I'm not talking about disappointed fans, but people who already have a constant problem with a group and their work, and yet they seem to be paying attention. I don't know, isn't it contradictory to not like something but go on and on about it? submitted by /u/Someonehihi [link] [comments]

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🥇NMIXX - Lily (37 upvotes) 🥈P1Harmony - Keeho (18 upvotes) 🥉IVE - Liz (9 upvotes) Main Vocalist: NMIXX - Lily Rules: - top comment (by upvotes) after roughly 24 hours will be chosen - all gen is allowed - both male and female idols are allowed, but I will not enforce any forced co-ed - the K-pop idol must be from / has spent significant time growing up in an overseas, non-Asian country ("significant time" is defined by general consensus) - an overseas country is one that is not Asian (NOT Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, Thailand, etc.) => examples of eligible countries include Canada, USA, Australia, NZ - try to upvote comments instead of commenting the same idol multiple times - have fun! submitted by /u/CynthiaRH142857 [link] [comments]

as an insomnia, dreamcatcher who??? no im kidding, but this song is literally the GOAT k-pop song for me. no one shares the sheer passion i have for this single song. this is a masterpiece and i need to gush about it. someone share my joy, please. they deserved so much better. anyone else have random unknown songs they feel this passionately about? i have literally not stopped listening to this song since 2021. i've never kept a song on rotation for that long. submitted by /u/hollaQ_ [link] [comments]

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Honorable mentions go out to Young Posse, Purple Kiss, and Rescene. Rules: You will have approximately 24 hours to vote. I'd prefer it if you mention one artist per comment and that the artist in question had a "silent fanbase" during their peak. The table of far: Row 1: BTS, Loona, Dreamcatcher Row: 2: IVE, STAYC, KARD submitted by /u/VigilMuck [link] [comments]

WE GET IT!! Kpop raps suck compared to actual rap music. You are not smart or cool for pointing this out. In fact, your the dumb one for thinking this matters. Why are we comparing singular rap verses in a pop song to full on western hip hop tracks? Wouldn't the smarter thing be to compare kpop rap verses to raps in western pop songs? (Before I go deeper into this, this post has nothing to do with the cultural appropriation, mocking, or imitating of western rap and western rap culture.) I struggle to wonder why just because two thing's sharing a word (that being "rap"), that those two things have to be viewed on an equivalent scale. That would be like saying kpop is worse than western pop and that this comparison would be fair to make because they are both pop music. While we absolutely can have discussions and productive dialogue comparing kpop and western pop, same with rap and kpop rap, to say one is better than the other is simply illogical because they are fundamentally different things. Yes, the rapping ability of the best western rappers clears the rapping ability of the best kpop rappers. However, a kpop rap verse and a western hip hop track are both attempting to accomplish different things and serve different purposes, so you get nowhere productive by saying western rap songs are better than kpop rap verses. Like imagine trying to decide what is a better play between Hamlet and some teachers acting out the three little pigs for their grade 1 class. One play pushed the limits of what is possible in storytelling in theatre and the other is just to teach and entertain some kids, AND THAT IS OKAY. Both have equal rights to be called a play. We can absolutely have some productive discussion comparing the two, but you see how calling Hamlet the better play literally gets us nowhere or accomplishes anything? And I am not saying this to protect kpop raps from criticism because what they are doing "isn't that deep" or whatever. You can and should push for kpop rap to be better but you have to recognize what makes a kpop rap good, and how that is different then what makes a western hip hop rap good. Making a rap verse work for a pop song, let alone a kpop pop song, let alone all the wild concepts and unique themes kpop songs have can actually be really hard. Rap isn't just rapping ability. When asking if a kpop rap verse is good, we have to ask many questions, many of which have nothing to do with the rapping skill. Does the rap add energy to the song? Does the rap affectionally transition from the chorus to the next verse? Is the rap catchy? Does the rap take you out of the song? What does the rap add to the rest of the song? etc. Why would you want an idol doing a peak western rap verse straight from a hip-hop track in a kpop song when you don't even want that for western music. There is an understanding that rap features in western pop songs are not the same and should not be treated the same or approached like a hip-hop track. Because pop music is different and therefore requires different things. Why can't people also accept the same being true for kpop? It seems like a lot of kpop fans feel the need to tell themselves and convince themselves that kpop sucks. I listen to basically every release that comes out, and I can tell you honestly, the average kpop rap verse is at least serviceable. That does not mean good, but also that means that the average kpop rap is not complete dogshit and ruining the song like many like to claim. I am not trying to discourage music discourse but I just have to call out the people who think they are smart by shitting on kpop rap verses. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

I’ve wanted this card for so long but honestly it’s so expensive it’s like $180 on Mercari but today I just missed a listing for $20 by like 10 minutes so I’m just wondering how pc pricing can be so random. Like I genuinely don’t understand how prices can be so different just days apart yet both be sold on websites like eBay and Mercari. submitted by /u/cherrycat520 [link] [comments]

No hate, this is just strictly for fun submitted by /u/Logical_Sweet_6624 [link] [comments]

if it helps to make a user, these are the groups i like: loona (loossemble, artms, yves, chuu) girl’s generation red velvet 2ne1 bts txt aespa miss A after school t-ara or you could just give me any username. i prefer something short also :) submitted by /u/gothwon [link] [comments]

I mean, when I ask that is does the whole survival show era mean anything to newer stans? Is there any relevance at all to you all? submitted by /u/Final_Remains [link] [comments]

I felt bad only having one boy group in the first one I made, so this grid is full of them! One group in particular features a lot… submitted by /u/Yvmeno [link] [comments]

It’s finally happening!! After almost a year in BPM’s basement (literally their last release was last year), BADVILLAIN is reportedly coming back this September. Since ZOOM's promotion ended, we’ve barely gotten any content from them... just a couple of vlogs here and there. So this news really feels huge. Fans have been waiting through one of the longest rookie group droughts, and now we’re finally about to see them return. Also, BADVILLAIN only has 5 songs in their entire one-year career. Three singles, most of them under 3 minutes (some barely hitting 2 minutes 😭). We deserve a proper tracklist this time, more songs. Let’s hope this comeback finally gives us more music. submitted by /u/No_Jeweler_4922 [link] [comments]