Rbw lucked out with mamamoo and it looks like they aren't replicating that success anytime soon

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I’ve been a K-pop stan since 2017 and honestly… I feel like I’m in a weird phase right now. I still am a fan, but I just don’t feel the same enthusiasm anymore. Back then, I’d get so hyped for every comeback. I’d literally sit 30 minutes before an MV dropped, refreshing and waiting. Now..Half the time, I don’t even realize when a group I follow has put out an album or EP. I also used to watch their content every day and enjoy it so much. But nowadays, whenever I try, it just feels… manufactured? Like when they do the cute or silly moments, I feel like i can see right through it or idk it just doesn’t feel genuine to me anymore. Even the music feels different to me now. Songs with messages about feminism, mental health, working hard, etc...I used to love those and maybe to some extend feel pride/proud of my favs.. like “wow my faves are speaking up about this or they are talking about it” . But now when I listen, my first thought is, “do they even believe this themselves, or is it just the company/lyricist building an image for us to eat up?” And again, I don’t even blame the idols or their labels...it's on me and a me problem.... the things I could enjoy before just don’t hit the same now or can't enjoy it/see it like i used to back then. I used to laugh so much and have fun watching kpop content on yt (for example - if an idol struggled with something silly like...idk...stuggling to cut a vegetable etc). It used to feel silly and funny. Now it just feels so staged, plastic and I get thrown off. I really wish I could enjoy K-pop the way I used to back then. Does anyone else feel this way? submitted by /u/Alternative-Pop-6280 [link] [comments]

Hello, this is a summary of data of the big4 5th Gen boy groups. I looked at data from Circle Charts, Spotify (the app and Qworb), Melon, Line, QQ music and YouTube *The Big4 in this case refers to Hybe, SM, Wakeone (As ZB1 sales stand up to up with the HYBE and SM groups) and JYP (I’ve included JYP even though numerically their numbers are the weakest of the 4 they are legacy big 3 so they are part the convo) (YG is excluded as well there is no boy group - do we know if ones coming?) (Additionally Cortis can’t be ranked quite yet as their first album is not out fully yet but I did spot one thing) All numbers are rounded to nearest hundred thousand (eaxample 1.1M 1,100,000 or 600k for 600,000) unless specified otherwise Rankings Spotify: Overall Spotify number recap: Rank by Total Streams (NEXZ data is Unavailable on Kworb) (31/08/25): 1. RIIZE 606.5M 2. BOYNEXTDOOR 605.7M 3. ZEROBASEONE 462M 4. TWS 250.8M 5. NCT Wish 135.3M 6. KickFlip 20.5M Monthly Listeners (31/08/25): 1. BOYNEXTDOOR 2.7M 2. RIIZE 2.4M 3. TWS 1.7M 4. NCT Wish / ZEROBASEONE 1.4M 5. KickFlip 0.4M 6. NEXZ 0.3M Followers (2sf) (31/08/25): 1. BOYNEXTDOOR 1.7M 2. RIIZE 1.3M 3. ZEROBASEONE 1.1M 4. TWS 780k 5. NCT Wish 560k 6. KickFlip 280k 7. NEXZ 150k Top 10 Songs by total Streams (31/08/25): 1. ‘Get A Guitar’ by RIIZE 121.2M 2. ‘Plot Twist’ by TWS 87M 3. ‘Love 119’ by RIIZE 77.9M 4. ‘In Bloom’ by ZEROBASEONE 72M 5. ‘Memories’ by RIIZE 70.4M 6. ‘Boom Boom Bass’ by RIIZE 65M 7. ‘Earth, Wind and Fire’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 63.1M 8. ‘One and Only’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 53.9M 9. ‘Talk Saxy’ by RIIZE 53.2 10. ‘Impossible’ by RIIZE 44.6M Albums: Rank by Total Album Sales (Korean sales twitter all time Hanteo Chart sales (31/08/25)): 1. ZEROBASEONE 8M 2. RIIZE 4.8M 3. BOYNEXTDOOR 4M 4. NCT Wish 3.2M 5. TWS 2.1M 6. KickFlip 700k 7. NEXZ 550k Rank by Last Album Sales (Circle Chart 2025 first half (round to nearest 100k or 50k): RIIZE ‘ODYSSEY’ 1.4M ZEROBASEONE ’BLUE PARADISE’ 1.3M NCT Wish ‘poppop’ / BOYNEXTDOOR ’No Genre’ 1.1M TWS ‘TRY WITH US’ 600k KickFlip ‘Kick Out, Flip Now’ 350K NEXZ ‘O-Rly’ 200K Top Ten albums by Sales (plain album verse) (circle charts): ‘YOUTH IN THE SHADE’ by ZEROBASEONE 2M ‘MELTING POINT’ by ZEROBASEONE 1.8M ‘ODYSSEY’ by RIIZE 1.4M ‘BLUE PARADISE’ by ZEROBASEONE 1.3M ‘CINEMA PARADISE’ by ZEROBASEONE / ‘No Genre’ by BOYNEXTDOOR / ‘Poppop’ by NCT Wish 1.1M ‘RIIZING’ / ‘Get A Guitar’ by RIIZE 1M ‘You Had Me at Hello’ by ZEROBASEONE 900k ‘19.99’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 870k ‘HOW’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 700k ‘TRY WITH US’ by TWS 570k YouTube Top 10 Most Viewed Music Video (01/09/2025): 1. ‘Earth, Wind and Fire’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 59.6M 2. ‘Get A Guitar’ by RIIZE 55.1M 3. ‘Fly Up’ by RIIZE 49.8M 4. ‘GOOD SO BAD’ by ZEROBASEONE 46.1M 5. ‘BLUE’ by ZEROBASEONE 45.8M 6. ‘Nice Guy’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 43.6M 7. ‘CRUSH’ by ZEROBASEONE 43.4M 8. ‘Plot Twist’ by TWS 42.7M 9. ‘But Sometimes’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 42.2M 10. ‘If I Say, I Love You’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 42M Top 10 Studio Choom Views (01/09/25): 1. ‘Get A Guitar’ by RIIZE 8.9M 2. ‘In Bloom’ by ZEROBASEONE 5.7M 3. ‘Nice Guy’ by BOYNEXTDOOR / ‘Impossible’ by RIIZE 5.3M 4. ‘Earth, Wind and Fire’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 4.6M 5. ‘Kill The Romeo’ by ZEROBASEONE 4.1M 6. ‘But Sometimes’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 3.8M 7. ‘One and Only’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 3.7M 8. ‘Bag Bad Back’ by RIIZE 3.4M 9. ‘I Feel Good’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 3M 10. ‘Countdown’ by TWS 2.9M Melon: Circle Streaming Chart (2025 week 34): 26 ‘If I Say I Love You’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 56 ‘Plot Twist’ by TWS 84 ‘123-78’ by BOYNEXTDOOR 86 ‘Surf’ by NCT Wish 92 ‘Fly Up’ by RIIZE Line: Weekly (2025.8.27-2025.9.2) Line Chart top 100: 98 ‘Count to Love’ by BOYNEXTDOOR QQ: Weekly (08.22-08.28) Korean song Chart: 5 ‘What You Want’ by CORTIS Please add any other data you know (Disclaimer I started this in august before the ZB1 and NCT Wish comebacks) submitted by /u/ARG_obesessed [link] [comments]

I’ve been a K-pop stan since 2017 and honestly… I feel like I’m in a weird phase right now. I still am a fan, but I just don’t feel the same enthusiasm anymore. Back then, I’d get so hyped for every comeback. I’d literally sit 30 minutes before an MV dropped, refreshing and waiting. Now..Half the time, I don’t even realize when a group I follow has put out an album or EP. I also used to watch their content every day and enjoy it so much. But nowadays, whenever I try, it just feels… manufactured? Like when they do the cute or silly moments, I feel like i can see right through it or idk it just doesn’t feel genuine to me anymore. Even the music feels different to me now. Songs with messages about feminism, mental health, working hard, etc...I used to love those and maybe to some extend feel pride/proud of my favs.. like “wow my faves are speaking up about this or they are talking about it” . But now when I listen, my first thought is, “do they even believe this themselves, or is it just the company/lyricist building an image for us to eat up?” And again, I don’t even blame the idols or their labels...it's on me and a me problem.... the things I could enjoy before just don’t hit the same now or can't enjoy it/see it like i used to back then. I used to laugh so much and have fun watching kpop content on yt (for example - if an idol struggled with something silly like...idk...stuggling to cut a vegetable etc). It used to feel silly and funny. Now it just feels so staged, plastic and I get thrown off. I really wish I could enjoy K-pop the way I used to back then. Does anyone else feel this way? submitted by /u/Alternative-Pop-6280 [link] [comments]

So for example I really love the cover for BIBI's Eve : Romance on all the streaming platforms but I'm a little sad that this beautiful cover didn't make it as the cover for the physical release. (Same goes for Kiss of Life's Lose yourself) On the other hand I really love the physical cover for Purple Kiss' memeM or Loossemble's One of a kind but their digital album covers on streaming platforms look kinda bland or had me shook cause I was thinking we're getting at least something similar like the physical versions with the members on it What are your examples? submitted by /u/vdrawer [link] [comments]

This is a joke. There’s two axis, volatility and opinionatedness. These two axis make four quadrants and these four quadrants make your four types of Kpop fan. Low volatility, low opinionatedness: A quadrants exclusively made up of new heads not yet corrupted by the toxic kpop environment. They have not interacted with enough people to start building negative impressions and aversions to certain groups and just take everything at face value and enjoy what they find for what it is. Will move out of this quadrant within a year. High volatility, low opinionatedness: Almost always ults one group and doesn’t care about other groups. If you speak to them, they won’t have much to say aside from getting you to give their ultimate group a 32nd try in case you didn’t quite get them after you 31st previous introductions to them. These people are harmless and are typically friend having people but their obsession is at unhealthy levels which you will find out if you say something negative about their ult group. Then you will be hit by volleys of personal attacks and condemnations. Low volatility, high opinionatedness: Doesn’t like group A, B, C, D or W, X, Y or Z. They like group L, M, N and O and P is alright but the fan base is cringe. They can dish it but they can’t take it. They spend all their time promoting their favs by comparing them to groups and idols they consider inferior and overrated. Any sort of contradiction to the thing they say and they act above it all. They’re simply too enlightened to have to address anything that challenges what they say. This person has friends but they definitely don’t like kpop. They exclusively talk kpop to a well vetted echo chamber of their own creation and will never have to look a kpop fan in the eyes when they talk to them about their shared hobby. High volatility, high opinionatedness: Let’s not be delusional, this is where’s most kpop fans live. “Fans of A group are killing Kpop, fans of C group? Jeez, they’re killing kpop I hate them and their group for sure. Kpop wouldn’t even matter if not for Group B. This is the only group with talent. And their success is admirable while group A’s success is fraudulent and group C’s is just circumstantial. Group B has the most beautiful members while group A has plastic, fake looking dolls and group C is just unfortunate looking. How are they even idols? Honestly in group B member A is the real talent and real beauty and they’d be better solo. I hate member B fans always acting hard done by when they’re just not as good and member C needs to stop sabotaging the group by focusing just on themself and their solo activities. What? You agree with 99.9% with what I said? How dare you disagree with me, how dare you even talk to me? Who even asked you? I can’t believe you acted so cool only to go mask off like that you creep. Leave kpop and go do something else.” This person naturally has no friends in real life and only talks to the few dozen people who share their hyper specific list of opinions while waging war nonstop on the rest of the kpop space for not holding their opinions. submitted by /u/Beginning-Bad2979 [link] [comments]

This is genuinely the dumbest thing people here say… We’re just out here assuming everyone’s stances because of what the stupid majority of other fandoms are doing?? Also, just because others haven’t been held accountable for doing horrible things, that means we now just excuse everyone who does it and we let it become normalized??? Change has to start somewhere babes. I’m sorry that I’m not sorry if that start is your fave group. submitted by /u/Mediocre_Quote4055 [link] [comments]

There’s two axis, volatility and opinionatedness. These two axis make four quadrants and these four quadrants make your four types of Kpop fan. Low volatility, low opinionatedness: A quadrants exclusively made up of new heads not yet corrupted by the toxic kpop environment. They have not interacted with enough people to start building negative impressions and aversions to certain groups and just take everything at face value and enjoy what they find for what it is. Will move out of this quadrant within a year. High volatility, low opinionatedness: Almost always it’s one group and doesn’t care about other groups. If you speak to them, they won’t have much to say aside from getting you to give their ultimate group a 32nd try in case you didn’t quite get them after you 31st previous introductions to them. These people are harmless and are typically friend having people but their obsession is at unhealthy levels which you will find out if you say something negative about their cult group. Then you will be hit by volleys of personal attacks and condemnations. Low volatility, high opinionatedness: Doesn’t like group A, B, C, D or W, X, Y or Z. They like group L, M, N and O and P is alright but the fan base is cringe. They can dish it but they ca can’t take it. They spend all their time promoting their favs by comparing them to groups and idols they consider inferior and overrated. Any sort of contradiction to the thing they say and they act above it all. They’re simply too enlightened to have to address anything that challenges what they say. This person has friends but they definitely don’t like kpop. They exclusively talk kpop to a well vetted echo chamber of their own creation and will never have to look a kpop fan in the eyes when they talk to them about their shared hobby. High volatility, high opinionatedness: Let’s not be delusional, this is where’s most kpop fans live. Fans of A group are killing Kpop, fans of C group? Jeez, they’re killing kpop I hate them and their group for sure. Kpop wouldn’t even matter if not for Group B. This is the only group with talent. And their success is admirable while group A’s success is fraudulent and group C’s is just circumstantial. Group B has the most beautiful members while group A has plastic, fake looking dolls and group C is just unfortunate looking. How are they even idols. Honestly in group B member A is the real talent and real beauty and they’d be better solo. I hate member B fans always acting hard done by when they’re just not as good and member C needs to stop sabotaging the group by focusing just on themself and their solo activities. What? You agree with 99.9% with what I said? How dare you disagree with me, how dare you even talk to me. Who even asked you. I can’t believe you acted so cool only to go mask off like that you creep. Leave kpop and go do something else. This person naturally has no friends in real life and only talks to the few dozen people who share their hyper specific list of opinions while waging war nonstop on the rest of the kpop space for not holding their opinions. Note: If it wasn’t obvious, this whole post is just a joke. Just having fun. submitted by /u/Beginning-Bad2979 [link] [comments]

I'm not that big into BTS anymore - sure, I'm active on ARMY forums and I will defend them if needs be, but I wouldn't say I'm a massive fan of the group. But if there's one member I DO love it's Yoongi. Yoongi is someone I, in particular, can relate to - I've been depressed most of my life, struggling with a difficult home and school life which led me to become depressed. When I got into K-Pop and looked deeper into their songs, I found Yoongi's solo work and realised that we're actually very similar. Another thing is I can tell, at the very least, he's got a good heart: particuarly through his philanthropy and his actions as a whole - he's putting his position to good use, which was shown in his volunteering with helping neurodivergent children and using music to help others. Another thing I love is his rapping - call me biased, but he's one of the best K-Pop rappers to date, from his wordplay, to his flow, to his general lyricism he's a 10 across the board: he has an amazing discography full of different topics for different things, so if you don't like one song: you're sure to like another. Nobody has been able to top him in that regard. Whenever I meet someone, mainly someone who isn't a BTS fan, they usually have nothing negative to say about Yoongi or Jin. Sure, he's had the odd few scandals (his biggest being the incident last August), but compared to other idols, he's relatively unproblematic— atleast from what I've seen of him. I think we should all learn to love this kitty and his work. Live, laugh, love Min Yoongi. submitted by /u/Calm-Comfortable2659 [link] [comments]

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My biggest dream is to have TXT sing “Hoshi wo Mezashite” by NEWS. IT IS SO TXT CODED. These are some of the lyrics (Genius trans.): *You put a spell on me So that when I died, I'd be brought back to life When I woke up, you were there in the light And I was reborn Is everyone here? Aiming for the stars, led by you Singing, I start to walk I won't look back On my wounded youth* I was a huge NEWS fan back in the day so you can imagine how I felt when Yamapi collaborated with Taehyun for “Perfect Storm”. That’s the closest I feel we’d get but I never thought my worlds collide but here we are. Now I’m getting greedy and hope that we’d get this cover 😭. submitted by /u/Additional_Study_84 [link] [comments]

i wouldve bought a plane ticket to chicago SO FAST if i had known what was gonna happen to new jeans smh😔 at the rate that they were going, i 100% thought they’d be in the lineup for coachella really soon and so much more in the U.S watching their performance at tokyo dome honestly makes me feel really emotional submitted by /u/Which_Mammoth9402 [link] [comments]

Not sure if mascots is the best word, just referring to characters that represent specific members in groups. (E.G. BTS - BT21, Twice - Lovelys, ATEEZ - ANITEEZ) Are there any groups (or singular members) you think have the best mascots? I love BT21, especially the creativity; none of the characters are the same animal/species, and there are a few very out-of-the-box creatures. RESCENE just announced their characters, and I'm especially excited for Ming, Yam, and Ribbu. In ANITEEZ I love JJOONGrami, HETmongi, and JJONGbear. A few others would be NCT Dream's DREAM( )SCAPE ZONE plushes. Specifically, Mark, Renjun, and Chenle's. For SKZoo, I especially love Changbin's mascot. RIIZE has some unique ones with Eunseok, Sohee, and Anton. SHINee's Key has a fun goblin-inspired mascot. MINITEEN also has fun mascots. I enjoy the food-themed ones (Woozi - Steamed Rice, Mingyu - Potato, and Seungkwan - Tangerine), and Vernon's mascot just being a human is hilarious. Would like to clarify this isn't hating on any specific mascots/characters! This is just an opinion-based discussion, and I wanted to see what mascots other fans love. submitted by /u/ButterflyMinute9605 [link] [comments]

It feels like KPOP Demon Hunters are literally everywhere right now. Their track “Golden” just hit #1 on the charts 🔥 Their Netflix movie went straight to #1 worldwide 🌍 And now there’s an upcoming PlayStation game called K-POP Girls vs Monsters 👾 Kinda wild to think we might be seeing the first KPOP group to dominate all 3 worlds: 🎶 Music → 🎬 Film → 🎮 Gaming. Honestly, if the game delivers, I wouldn’t be surprised if it becomes the next big PS hit. What do you guys think — can KPOP break into gaming just as strong? submitted by /u/BarracudaExciting880 [link] [comments]

I'd like to say izone as much as id love to say loona their a close tie tbh but I'd say izone since their songs would be so fire but in all honesty we ain't getting that reunion 💔 submitted by /u/hearts4him_ [link] [comments]

See title, but oh my, I never realized just how out of touch with reality I was until I got off Twitter. I deleted the app more so because of Musk, and I really miss the memes and updates that came from it. However, not seeing all the fan wars and discourse really allowed me to touch some grass and become more productive. Am I as in the know about certain releases and controversies? No. Am I overall less engaged with K-pop as a whole? Kind of. I haven’t tuned out the music, but I find out about them a bit later than most now. But truly, it’s probably best that I’m not so focused on all the news in K-pop anymore, and I mostly just tune in for the music these days. Maybe I’ll get pulled back in one day, who knows, but for now, this is good. submitted by /u/Yayeet2014 [link] [comments]

Personally I'd like to say ateez cyber punk, the choreography,lyrics omg I literally love it and kiss of life tell me, you can hate the group but you can't deny that have fire music that would fit a non kpop fan submitted by /u/hearts4him_ [link] [comments]