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We're now in a timeline where people are genuinely trying to claim that BTS' success is fake

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I honestly find it baffling lol. For some context, Spotify just had it's monthly remove streams thing (I'm sorry I don't know how else to word it) and BTS, specifically the members solos were recognized for losing quite a lot of streams, as opposed to groups like Blackpink and Katseye who weren't affected. I'm not here to make an entire point about how the remove stream thing is fake or something, like yes I'm sure Spotify isn't just removing those numbers solely from BTS for shits and giggles, but I just think the general response to it by fans is odd. You have the fair route that fans are taking, where they're saying it's ironic that groups like Blackpink who are often ridiculed for 'fake' streams by Army's aren't affected. Okay, I get that, go ahead. But aside from those comments that I don't mind, there's multiple, dozen of comments simply stating that 'BTS' succes has always been fake' and how people are just now realizing it. Like what exactly is up with this weird analogy that people are suddenly making. Yes, not all their numbers are 100% true (just like most Kpop groups), but I think the sheer amount of awards, views, not to mention size of the fandom can tell you well enough that they are indeed... successful. That's it, I just think it's an odd loop fans are making submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

124. Vote for your favorite group for every number, day 4! (Also, PLEASE check beforehand if the group was already submitted)

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Rules: - don’t submit a group that’s already in the comments - there will be one female and one male winner - you may submit multiple artists, but put them in separate comments - don’t submit a group with more/less than five members - the comments with the most upvotes win - 2nd gen and up - don’t submit subunits 🏆Winners of day 3🏆 female: Mamamoo Aespa Blackpink male: Xlov (love seeing them getting more attention lol) Day6 The Rose (them too) Honorable mention: KARD (would’ve been between xlov and day6/a little behind blackpink) Have fun! submitted by /u/DaGayEnby [link] [comments]

125. My post accidentally started a massive moral debate and now I'm just laughing.

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So, for context, I made a post on r/kpoppers appreciating Yoongi, and someone made a comment which was uh... less than tasteful. I bring it up on a few posts talking about snarkers, because, right after random comments got downvoted simply acknowledging his artistry. Said person got a little defensive and argued with me for an hour about how I was being "Creepily Parasocial" for apparently acknowledging Yoongi's music, his philanthropy and how I related to him? Funnily enough, I got a DM this morning telling me what they said was ENTIRELY different. Guys, AITA for saying Glucose Oppar should've been acknowledged for something other than scandal? God, the horror. Anyways, this post was made to give context: I find the whole situation hilarious, honestly. I'm not gonna argue with anyone: just needed to give context LOL. submitted by /u/Calm-Comfortable2659 [link] [comments]

126. K-Pop Girl Group Tournament (Day 50): EXID vs. Red Velvet

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Day 49 Results: Wonder Girls win by 48 votes! Vote for your favorite and as always poll closes in 24 hours! If you're unsure of who to vote for, here's a couple songs to help your decision: EXID - L.I.E. EXID - ME & YOU EXID - LADY Red Velvet - Rookie Red Velvet - Bad Boy Red Velvet - Dumb Dumb First Half Second Half Disclaimer: This tournament is not a “comparison”. The seeds were randomized and I didn’t pick the matchups. The songs picked are amongst their most popular because they’re easy to recognize. If you have another song suggestion you may leave it in the comments but please refrain from complaining about the song not being included. I also try to switch up the listed songs every new round, so the songs you might not know from a group might not be listed as they were listed the previous round. Either way, feel free to recommend them in the comments if you’d like. View Poll submitted by /u/PushOffTheGround [link] [comments]

127. Instead of just hating on groups, why don't we just move on?

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I'm talking about every mainstream group who will get hate for any little stupid thing. AND NO, I'm not talking about constructive criticism. Hating on someone for losing weight, than hating for gaining it or the way they eat, perform or even breath at some point. And I'm ready to discuss with every person who thinks those Snark subs and awful Instagram/Twitter threads are made ONLY by kids and teenagers. Please, let's be for real. Even worse, hating someone because they're not helping the rest of the world like wtf. Do you expect people who depend on Visas to save the war? What? This is not their fcking job, goddamn. I hope Companies make sure their artists know that: The more famous you are, the more you'll get hate for the most ridiculous things. Like wasn't that dude from ALLDAY PROJECT getting hate for saying he's not gay? Curb your expectations, kpoppers 🤪 Yes, that's the propaganda K-Pop companies have so we can be obsessed over them. Their job is to make us obsessed with them. But honestly, this is not making any sense to me. Everything seems to be something to discuss, why? submitted by /u/0110I1I [link] [comments]

128. Why sf9 never become popular as they should have been.

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Sometimes I like to think about why certain groups never became as popular as they could have. For non–Big 4 groups, the obvious hurdle is usually being from a smaller/nugu company. But even in those cases, if managed well, you can still maximize a group’s potential and reach a fairly sustainable level of popularity. One group I often think about is SF9. They had so much potential, but a lot of things went wrong along the way. Here are a few reasons I personally think held them back: Age gap dynamic – With Inseong (’92) and Chani (’00) in the same lineup, the age spread didn’t create the kind of boy group “dynamic” that usually clicks with fans. Unless a group is formed on a survival show, I think this type of age gap doesn’t really appeal as much. FNC’s focus on Rowoon – It often felt like the group existed so the company could push Rowoon (and maybe one other member) as actors. That shift in focus made it seem like the group wasn’t the priority. Visual harmony – This might sound unusual, but the extreme height differences between members made the group look a bit mismatched on stage. There was no cohesive “visual balance,” which actually matters a lot in idol group appeal. On top of that, FNC relied on outdated promotion strategies, which didn’t help in an already competitive 3rd gen/early 4th gen landscape. For me, SF9 had so much raw talent, but the group dynamic never fully came together. Personally, I think they might have been stronger as a 5-member lineup (Taeyang, Hwiyoung, Chani, Youngbin, Dawon). The others didn’t necessarily ruin the group, but they also didn’t add much to its overall synergy in terms of visuals and balance. I used to be a fan until around 2020, when Rowoon’s presence started to feel more detached. Group dynamic is one of the most important factors for me (and I think for a lot of fans) when it comes to stanning, and unfortunately SF9’s always felt off. submitted by /u/Over_Length_440 [link] [comments]

129. Parasocial fans are way too normalized and need to be called out more.

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I know it's a driving point of the industry and that companies adore parasocial fans since they garner so much engagement and give so much money; But even amongst these subreddits I see a ton of parasocial posts and whenever it gets called out people dogpile and claim it's "hate". I saw a post on another subreddit practically worshiping an idol and claiming that he "deserves all the praise after all that people put him through last year" The thing they're referring to that he was "put through" was people holding him accountable for drunk driving on the sidewalk of his apartment... I said to them: "Why does he deserve it? “Especially after last year” when you mean he drove drunk on the sidewalk of his apartment… Why are you praising him like he’s a child? This whole post sounds incredibly parasocial." Now they're on multiple subreddits claiming I was hating on them... They praised a grown man like he was their baby or like they knew him, it's creepy and unhealthy. It's parasocial. How is calling unhealthy behavior out "hateful"? And people seriously act like him being held accountable for drunk driving is just "people hating on him"... People really need to stop worshiping famous people and acting like they're your friends; And hold them accountable for their wrongdoings and in this case, crimes... Friendly reminder that these idols don't know you or care about you. submitted by /u/Asleep-Cook1229 [link] [comments]

130. beginner friendly skincare and makeup for kpop concerts

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im seeing enhypen soon and i dont wanna look ugly in front of all the pretty engenes but i dont know where to begin with <\3 my skincare routine is just a cleanser, moisturizer and vaseline for my lips. is there anything that i should add to my routine? i only wear lipstick and not any other makeup stuff (i used to wear them but looking back at it, i feel like i did most of them wrong). note i have dry skin, dark circles and pigmentation and acne please help a poor girl out TT submitted by /u/withinyourheart [link] [comments]

131. Parasocial fans are way too normalized...

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I know it's a driving point of the industry and that companies adore parasocial fans since they garner so much engagement and give so much money; But even amongst these subreddits I see a ton of parasocial posts and whenever it gets called out people dogpile and claim it's "hate". I saw a post on another subreddit practically worshiping an idol and claiming that he "deserves all the praise after all that people put him through last year" The thing they're referring to that he was "put through" was people holding him accountable for drunk driving on the sidewalk of his apartment... I said to them: "Why does he deserve it? “Especially after last year” when you mean he drove drunk on the sidewalk of his apartment… Why are you praising him like he’s a child? This whole post sounds incredibly parasocial." Now they're on multiple subreddits claiming I was hating on them and bullying them... They praised a grown man like he was their baby or like they knew him, it's creepy and unhealthy. It's parasocial. How is calling unhealthy behavior out "hateful"? And people seriously act like him being held accountable for drunk driving is just "people hating on him"... People really need to stop worshiping famous people and acting like they're your friends; And hold them accountable for their wrongdoings and in this case, crimes... Friendly reminder that these idols don't know you or care about you. submitted by /u/Asleep-Cook1229 [link] [comments]

132. Wendy's solo music - should she try alt rock/metal/gothic

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I'm typing this a little after listening to the Cerulean Verge Album Highlight Medley. The album seems to be pop rock leaning, which really suits Wendy imo. It also seems to be the kind of music she enjoys and will be perfect in concerts with a live band. However, i hope the songs have more drama and theatrics involved, since she really excels at expressing both. 'The Road' is one of my favourite songs she's ever released - it always makes me visualise her singing on the stage in an empty, dark, echo-ey theatre, desperately reaching out and trying to find a path. It's emotional, raw and beautiful. An alternative rock or gothic metal leaning song like Evanescence's Bring Me to Life would be PERFECT for Wendy's powerful voice and will finally allow her to go all out. Similarly, a gothic ballad like My Immortal (again by Evanescence) would be absolutely haunting and beautiful with Wendy's expertly crafted vocal delivery. It will stand out from the rest of the industry sonically and vocally and will be a proper departure from Red velvet's sound (although they've alluded to more "horror" / f(x)-like songs in the past, Psycho would probably be the closest to this sound conceptually). Anyway, this was just my take on the kind of sound Wendy should try in the future. I am excited for her first comeback as a soloist under ASND! They seem to be doing well so far for a small and new agency. submitted by /u/zylcasea [link] [comments]

133. We're now in a timeline where people are genuinely trying to claim that BTS' success is fake

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I honestly find it baffling lol. For some context, Spotify just had it's monthly remove streams thing (I'm sorry I don't know how else to word it) and BTS, specifically the members solos were recognized for losing quite a lot of streams, as opposed to groups like Blackpink and Katseye who weren't affected. I'm not here to make an entire point about how the remove stream thing is fake or something, like yes I'm sure Spotify isn't just removing those numbers solely from BTS for shits and giggles, but I just think the general response to it by fans is odd. You have the fair route that fans are taking, where they're saying it's ironic that groups like Blackpink who are often ridiculed for 'fake' streams by Army's aren't affected. Okay, I get that, go ahead. But aside from those comments that I don't mind, there's multiple, dozen of comments simply stating that 'BTS' succes has always been fake' and how people are just now realizing it. Like what exactly is up with this weird analogy that people are suddenly making. Yes, not all their numbers are 100% true (just like most Kpop groups), but I think the sheer amount of awards, views, not to mention size of the fandom can tell you well enough that they are indeed... successful. That's it, I just think it's an odd loop fans are making submitted by /u/Due_Improvement_5699 [link] [comments]

134. Dang Hong Hai (NEWKIES, Boys Planet, Boys ll Planet) has opened a personal Instagram account

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135. Katseye has made me realize how boring some of the kpop performances are

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Recently, I saw 4 groups live. Twice & katseye in lollapalooza and Blackpink & le sserafim at their concert. After seeing all 4 of them, I can confidently say that Katseye is different from your average kpop group. The energy they had on stage was electrifying. I love blackpink's songs so I was excited for the concert but except for lisa, the rest were very inconsistent. Even for Lisa, she is not a good singer, so she was struggling a bit in her solos and was relying too much on backtrack. I have heard people say that le sserafim are great performers, but I didn't feel this way from their Newark concert. I think the performance was not bad but compared to katseye, it was VERY MID. They were singing live for most of it but there was very little energy. The stage set up was lazy and there were no backup dancers. For twice, I felt like some members' mics were too low. Some were giving their 100 and some were barely putting any energy. Overall I think it was just average and not that once in a lifetime kinda experience. If yall think I am being biased, Just compare the fancams of katseye's lollapalooza performance to the fancams of all the other groups I mentioned and you will see a clear difference. Also I don't hate any of these groups and I tried to be as unbiased as possible while seeing their performances. submitted by /u/Odd_Entertainer9554 [link] [comments]

136. ZEROBASEONE Member Ricky Doesn't Care If You Don't Like His Makeup @ Teen Vogue (250904)

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137. KARA Han Seungyeon - Japan 1st EP: I・恋 (I・Koi) (CD Jacket - Limited Edition A, Limited Edition B & Regular Edition)

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138. WJSN Dayoung - body (MV Teaser 1)

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139. BADVILLAIN - Digital Single: THRILLER (Snippet Video 1)

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140. WENDY (Red Velvet) - The 3rd Mini Album: Cerulean Verge (Highlight Medley)

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141. i-dle Yuqi - The 1st Single: Motivation (Track List)

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142. When my favorite groups are competing against each other for an award and the fandoms start fighting:

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I absolutely hate when this happens. submitted by /u/ForceApprehensive597 [link] [comments]

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