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When Black people are the victims in K-Pop controversies, we still end up being the ones lynched.

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When Black people are the victims in K-Pop controversies, we still end up being the ones lynched.
I’ve been thinking about how often this pattern repeats in K-Pop fandoms: a Black person points out a valid issue, racism, plagiarism, or cultural insensitivity, and somehow they become the villain. Take the recent case with Yseult, a French Black artist. Her work was clearly plagiarized by a Korean artist. Naturally, she tagged the producers and the people involved — including Soyeon, who happened to appear in the MV. Instead of focusing on the plagiarism itself, K-Pop stans (especially Soyeon’s fans) turned against Yseult. She ended up being harassed and flooded with racist DMs, even though she’s literally the victim. We’ve seen this before: ENHYPEN — when fans thought a member said the N-word, Black fans who spoke up got told “unstan then we don’t need Black people in this fandom anyway.” NCT (Jaehyun) — when he allegedly mouthed the N-word, the fans expressing disappointment were bullied and silenced. Crush — he was accused of ignoring Black fans during a concert. Whether or not it was a misunderstanding, the fan who shared her feelings ended up getting mass-reported and told to apologize. It’s such a consistent pattern: whenever anti-Blackness in K-Pop surfaces, the Black victims or fans are punished for speaking up. It’s exhausting. submitted by /u/chrisomi9 [link] [comments]

7. “Sinto falta dos conceitos alternativos e sombrios no K-pop, alguém mais?”

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às vezes eu sinto que o kpop perdeu a alma. antes tinha dor, caos, identidade — cada grupo tinha um universo, uma história, um som que só eles faziam. hoje tudo parece bonito demais, limpo demais, previsível demais. sinto falta dos conceitos sombrios, dos raps pesados, da energia crua que fazia a gente arrepiar vendo um mv. agora todo mundo é “boy next door”, todo mundo sorri igual, canta igual, se veste igual. não tô dizendo que tá ruim… só que tá vazio. eu quero de volta o estranho, o diferente, o intenso. o kpop que fazia a gente sentir, não só assistir. Agora tudo virou “clean boy”: música leve, conceito colegial, sorriso ensaiado, estética de comercial. Não é ruim, mas é tudo igual. Sinto falta daquela sensação de “caramba, isso é diferente”, daquele peso emocional, da ousadia. Parece que o K-pop ficou com medo de ser estranho — e ser estranho era o que o tornava especial. Será que um dia o dark, o alternativo, o experimental vão voltar? Ou será que o K-pop virou de vez um produto de vitrine? submitted by /u/strawberry867m [link] [comments]

8. Recommend me any K-Pop song and I will rate it (brutally honest)

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bsides and smaller groups encouraged but it can be any song. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

9. 20251013 - Sharing my remix of "M.I.A" by KATSEYE (technically a "global" kpop group,right?)

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I flipped Katseye’s latest track M.I.A. into a heavy-hitting dubstep remix — packed with energy, drops that shake the floor, and a whole new vibe. If you loved the original, MAYBE you'll love this remix the same way. DOWNLOAD: hypeddit.com/blr0rm submitted by /u/Numerous_Prompt7878 [link] [comments]

10. I think I might quit being a K-pop stan…

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K-pop isn’t the same anymore and I know EVERYONE can feel it, but what people don’t talk about is the fact that I don’t feel like home whenever I interact with K-pop stans. I took a hiatus from posting on my tiktok because I felt like I was going to run the risk of getting harassed, death threats or even doxxed if my videos were to go to the wrong side of tiktok’s algorithm. All I ever did was post fun videos of me enjoying K-pop. Me going to a concert, talking about events I’ve been to, opening albums, talking about members I really like, etc. Just normal K-pop things, but it wouldn’t be normal to the people who find my posts to be weird. All I wanted was a safe space to enjoy my interests, and to have at least one person in every post to comment under my posts but they don’t always happen. People expect me to look this aesthetically pleasing K-pop content creator when I am just a K-pop fan just like everyone else, who has celebrity crushes, likes to read fanfiction and enjoys fandom banter. I fear that those days are forever gone as more and more people choose to stand still at concerts for the “perfect video” rather than a shaky, imperfect video that showed how much fun they had. I’ve seen so many people get harassed for simply being normal K-pop fans with a crush, and they get seen as weird or obsessive which they’re now made to feel uncomfortable coming online all together after a random person makes a twitter thread about them just for not liking them. I’ve seen some of my favourite content creators go through the same thing, and it totally sucks. I feel like I don’t fit in with the K-pop fandom nowadays. I feel like they’re either too stuck up that they like to call K-pop fans who know their faves’ anniversary and birthday dates (or whatever fandom activity that involves any sort of effort other than streaming) “parasocial”, or they’ll be weird, crazy, obsessed stans that harass people on Tiktok or Twitter for the sake of harassing people and I never felt like there’s a middle ground for anyone who feels like me where all they want is to be a normal fan who just wants to partake in fandom culture that isn’t just “dancing” (such as watching official content, learning about the members, fanfiction writing, fanarts and edits appreciation, celebrity crushes, etc) but still be sane enough to know that they can’t have them without anyone telling or reminding everyone since we’re in this big inside joke together. Does that sound like 2014? It sure is. I just want that one K-pop friend to talk to that we are on the same wavelength as… that’s it. I hate feeling like I’m one post from ruining my life. I just want to be a normal K-pop fan in peace. I just want to enjoy my interests in peace. submitted by /u/AsianMoot3317 [link] [comments]

11. What's the most outlandish kpop conspiracy theory you've seen?

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I don't mean conspiracies that you think could be real. I mean takes that are so out there, they make you wonder if that person has any connection to reality. Doesn't matter if it's a weirdly popular one or just a single post that made you go wtf. I want the truly wild stuff you've seen. submitted by /u/azureleaf [link] [comments]

12. ​Más allá de la música: Un análisis de los Datos y la Moda en "Las Guerreras del K-pop" (¡Hay referencias que seguro se perdieron!)

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​Me encanta cómo las animaciones están empezando a usar el K-Pop como tema central, ¡pero "Las Guerreras del K-pop" lleva las referencias a otro nivel! ​Estuve investigando a fondo el video, y hay muchos detalles y datos escondidos sobre la moda, la jerarquía de los grupos y las dinámicas de las agencias que solo un fan de la música coreana notaría. Por ejemplo: ​El Diseño de Vestuario: Cada equipo es una referencia directa a las tendencias de segunda o tercera generación del K-Pop (una lleva el estilo hip-hop old-school, otra el concepto girl crush). ​Los Rangos: Los rangos dentro de los grupos son una alegoría a las posiciones (Líder, Maknae, Main Dancer) y cómo estas definen el peso narrativo de cada personaje. ​¡Abrimos el debate! ¿Qué otra referencia de la cultura K-Pop o de idols han encontrado en la animación? ¿Cuál es su bias (personaje favorito) y por qué? ​--- ​Si les interesa una inmersión completa en todos estos datos y el resumen de la trama (en español), pueden verlo aquí: https://youtu.be/wtZadK6aomU?si=FkOiRbKRN-wyUux9 submitted by /u/AffectionateMix9073 [link] [comments]

13. Soyeon plagiarizing a music video of French artist Yseult is disappointing.

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It's well known that kpop takes a lot from the West, but this time it feels especially shameless. In Soyeon's recently solo song MV, multiple scenes, shot for shot, are copied from Yseult's music video. This isnt her first rodeo either, as she has plagiarized music before, as well. Western artists, but more specifically, black artists need to be given more credit and treated with more respect from the kpop sphere. But that doesnt look to change any time soon, unfortunately, seeing what we have here. submitted by /u/Lost-Investigator266 [link] [comments]

14. What is that was one song you inexplicably like and are fond of?

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For me I have an inexplicable love of ‘Jump’ by NXD (please check it out you’ll see why). submitted by /u/ARG_obesessed [link] [comments]

15. Why didn’t 2nd gen groups get the same U.S. exposure as groups today?

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Groups like LE SSERAFIM, aespa, BLACKPINK, etc. are performing on American TV shows, doing interviews, late night appearances, even award show stages. But when you look back at 2nd gen legends like SNSD, Wonder Girls, KARA, T-ARA, it feels like they never got that same level of U.S. attention. They were very talented and I would say, pretty much to up to par as the popular groups today. Other than Wonder Girls briefly promoting in the U.S., you never saw 2nd gen idols on big American talk shows or mainstream interviews. No Jennifer Hudson, no Fallon, no GMA. It kind of feels unfair considering how much groundwork they laid for K-pop’s global popularity. Seems to be that the U.S. simply did not care back then, unless there's a better reason that I may not know about. Curious to hear your thoughts, submitted by /u/savingrace0262 [link] [comments]

16. When Black people are the victims in K-Pop controversies, we still end up being the ones lynched.

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I’ve been thinking about how often this pattern repeats in K-Pop fandoms: a Black person points out a valid issue, racism, plagiarism, or cultural insensitivity, and somehow they become the villain. Take the recent case with Yseult, a French Black artist. Her work was clearly plagiarized by a Korean artist. Naturally, she tagged the producers and the people involved — including Soyeon, who happened to appear in the MV. Instead of focusing on the plagiarism itself, K-Pop stans (especially Soyeon’s fans) turned against Yseult. She ended up being harassed and flooded with racist DMs, even though she’s literally the victim. We’ve seen this before: ENHYPEN — when fans thought a member said the N-word, Black fans who spoke up got told “unstan then we don’t need Black people in this fandom anyway.” NCT (Jaehyun) — when he allegedly mouthed the N-word, the fans expressing disappointment were bullied and silenced. Crush — he was accused of ignoring Black fans during a concert. Whether or not it was a misunderstanding, the fan who shared her feelings ended up getting mass-reported and told to apologize. It’s such a consistent pattern: whenever anti-Blackness in K-Pop surfaces, the Black victims or fans are punished for speaking up. It’s exhausting. submitted by /u/chrisomi9 [link] [comments]

17. Try and guess my top artists of 4 weeks, 6 months, and 1 year

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18. Why are people still surprised by the daily fights between Blinks and ARMYs?

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Seriously tho, why are people still surprised by how nasty these two fandoms can get every single day? I’ve been seeing a bunch of posts lately sharing small bits from the daily fights between these two fandoms on Twitter/X — and honestly, why are people acting like this is something new? Are we really new to this fact? Because from what I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a lot), this isn’t anything shocking. Both sides have had their fair share of messy moments, and it’s been going on for years. It’s literally an everyday thing across multiple platforms, with Twitter/X being the main battlefield. People there love to hate-farm for likes and retweets — it’s ridiculously easy to get engagement if you say something out of pocket. Even some Korean web media outlets jump in just to ride the wave and boost their numbers. That’s why it’s so hard to tell what’s actually true on X anymore. Unless something’s verified by multiple reliable sources outside of the fandom bubble, you really can’t trust anything that comes out of those fights. submitted by /u/Daddy1007a [link] [comments]

19. IVE Wonyoung - ELLE Korea x BVLGARI (November 2025 Issue Cover & Pictorial Preview)

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20. I'll leave the interpretation to you.

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21. Yeji and Xinlong look more alike than Yeji and Hyunjin do

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When Xinlong appeared on boys planet, I was like damn he looked like Yeji. Personally, I never saw the “Hwang twins” resemblance. I always thought that Hyunjin and Jeongin looked more like each other. lol! I just thought it would be fun to compare who looks like who. Do you agree with me? submitted by /u/Asleep-Quarter-6239 [link] [comments]

22. My next life as a kpop idol. All routes lead to....

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Have you seen those isekai animes in which a person from our world reincarnates in an alternative universe? Imagine those kinds of dynamics but in a kpop setting. You reincarnate as kpop trainee, you have new healthy young body and mind, but you keep all your memories from your past life, including all your kpop knowledge. Would you play the kpop game or would you nope out of it and just live a normal peaceful life? If you decide to play the kpop game, before you reincarnate, your magic guardian spirit supervisor tells you that you can magically choose all the details of your new life. -What is your ethnicity (Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Wasian, Blasian, etc.) and your physical appearance? (tall, short, very pretty, normal pretty, cute, etc.) -What kind of work position would you like to have? (main vocal, leader, dancer, visual, rapper, etc.,) -What age position in the group (oldest, middle, maknae, etc) would you have? -In which agency would you debut? -What kind of concept would your group have? -What would you do to avoid controversies and go to the most successful idol route? I would choose to play the game. My ethnicity would be half Korean/half Mexican, so I can speak Korean and Spanish. Being half Mexican would help me to have the support of the Latino public. I would be good at languages so I can learn easily English and of course Japanese and Chinese. I would have cute visuals, something between Illit´s Minju and Wonhee. My height would be 1.55 cm at debut, and as an adult 1.64 cm tall. I´d choose to be musically gifted (I can play piano and guitar, and learn instruments and music production easily), and to be a very good vocalist with perfect pitch a powerful voice (I can hit all the notes) and an unique tone that would set me apart from other idols. I´d be a decent dancer, good enough to do well all the choreos and not to be scolded during practice. I would go to Hybe to debut at 16 years old as the second vocalist and maknae in a group with a fresh youth concept but with some magic elements, like a girl group version of TXT. My route to sucess would be, in the first phase of my career, to be as aegyouful as possible, I´d be super cute and adorable, the public would love me as their younger sister. Beign cute is the key to success in Asia. I honestly think being cute has less competition and it´s less exhausting than being a visual or a main dancer or the most popular of the group, that´s too much pressure and hate. Being the cutest maknae would give me enough fan support during the years of my first contract. To avoid controversies I would start my good PR campaing as soon as possible, like always being humble and kind to everybody around me, and donating or volunteering to charities, that way, if haters try to go after me, my fans and the general public would defend me: "she´s so cute and small and humble, and she has donated to this and that, what have you done for other people", etc. Also I´d avoid men. No dating scandals at all for me. I´d spend the years of my first contract working in my composing and producing skills. I´d be like Suga, Yunjin or Martin, working in my group´s or even other artists music. Also like Yunjin, I´d start releasing soon my self composed music, so I´d start having fans who love me for my art, not just for being cute. That would lead me to the second phase of my career: genius young composer. Being cute has an expiration date, but creating hits that the public loves is timeless. I´d compose pop hits for my members solo releases, or other artists, and for my solo career, I´d go for a more alternative route. I´d have enough money from my pop hit royalties, and I´m not interested in being a main pop girl (too much pressure and hate), so I´d be free to explore alternative music and to have a cult following. I´d have the best of two worlds: pop hits money and creative freedom for myself. Also when I start dating in my 30s, I´d be too successful as a hit maker, I´d have fans who love me for my music so dating won´t affect my core fanbase. I think main pop girls or visuals can be replaced, but if you are the one making the hits, you´re set for like. That would be my route for a successful kpop life, lol. Thanks for reading all this fanfic. ;) What about you? submitted by /u/stellarmacaron [link] [comments]

23. Does anyone remember Bulldock's debut? BULLDOK Why Not

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They had a lot of potential but they only released this song. This video is so 2016, it reminded me a bit of EXID. submitted by /u/Separate-Comedian-25 [link] [comments]

24. French singer, Yseult, calls out K-pop singers, Soyeon and R.tee, for copying her music video freame by frame

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This went viral in the popculture sub with 11k upvotes so far. Kpop fans are being called out for attacking Yseult and for making a big deal about plagiarism every time except when it actually truly matters and for making excuses. https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/s/CBGTRjR5fp submitted by /u/Sunset-Equation092 [link] [comments]

25. I'll leave the interpretation to you. Some people and fandoms need to be educated.

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