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I wasn’t planning to talk about this but I can’t help but notice how Treasure is barely getting any recognition and achievements—they deserve so much more than shitty management. I’ve been a fan since pre-debut and it is kind of disappointing and heartbreaking to see that they could have been one of the biggest boy groups if it wasn’t for YG being incompetent with handling them. I came across a video where Haruto was reacting to a new boygroup named ‘Cortis’ (whose members were much younger than all of them), and I decided to read the comments after not expecting much. But I was surprised to see that there were a lot of comments talking about how Haruto seems like he’d fit right into that group perfectly and how you can see in his eyes that that’s what he exactly wants and not whatever mess YG is putting them through. I couldn’t help but think about it because it’s visible how Treasure is kind of a messy group that keeps shifting and evolving, then regressing. I know comparison isn’t healthy and everyone has their own pace, but at this point, I think comparison could be good to exactly pinpoint and acknowledge how fucked their management is and how much potential has been wasted. It’s a constant battle against their own potential thanks to YG. Treasure has a bunch of good rappers and singers and I think the company should put more efforts to showcase their talents and not just feel like a medium for them to earn profit or keep the company alive. Idk if it’s just me but Treasure feels out of place in YG and there’s a constant shift between themes and concepts. As of last time, Asahi was able to take the lead and produce their title track, while for their latest right now (correct me if I’m wrong), there were barely any participation involved in the work. I’ve heard of other k-pop idols in the industry having to comply with their company with whatever they throw at them—not being able to modify their song, particularly. And it somehow feels like that with Treasure. It feels like YG is just micromanaging this group. Maybe I’m just confused, but surely, YG don’t know how to handle them. I feel really bad because I know these boys trained so hard and worked their way up to be in this group. And I hate to say this: but, I would completely understand if another member leaves again. They have a couple of good songs here and there, and personally, Yellow was their best one so far. I don’t have anything against their other songs but it feels too formulaic and forced, especially when it comes to their bridges. I know many would complain that YG is “focused on the asian demographic” but this is completely just an excuse for bad marketing. They need more recognition; their own strengths need more exposure; and they need songs that fit them all as a whole group and not something that feels unnatural or as if they’re just following a certain trend. Don’t get me wrong, I have no problems with groups following the current trends as of today, but you could feel when it’s not for the group. For fucks sake, YG is messing them up and wasting their potential and talent. I can completely acknowledge that Treasure is a very talented group, and I can also testify that all members have great personalities and are very understanding and supportive of their fans and each other. My boys don’t deserve this kind of treatment and it is just so exhausting to see them be under the radar for so long now. TL;DR: YG keeps failing to show how Treasure is a good group. A lot of members are underrated and it feels like their company is just milking the shit out of them—completely disregarding their individual talents and strengths. Their growth has been stagnant ever since debut. submitted by /u/caouinowhere [link] [comments]

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They are clearly trying to to appeal to a boy fanbase as well, even the merch looks like some Essentials streetwear. I really like the creative vision of the group and even knowing who was in the studio with them, like dammmnnnn. I already listen to genre similar like that from opium and travis and ect, and I don't mind having more, they're clearly having fun and experimenting. Also got me out of my Kpop slum that I have had for awhile, like daaaaaammn. People keep saying how much they sound like other artists but tbh, IDC. music has always been about sampling, referencing, and flipping sounds. picasso once said “good artists copy, great artists steal” and t.s. eliot said “immature poets imitate, mature poets steal.” the point is, true artistry isn’t ALWAYS about inventing something from scratch, it’s about taking influences and making them your own. that’s exactly what they’re doing. they’re not just ripping off, they’re collaborating, crediting, and pulling from the culture they grew up in. they’re internet kids, and their sound is rooted in hip-hop. that makes sense, people connect with that vibe right now, same way they do with carti, travis, or even underground names like 2hollis. and what really makes them stand out is that unlike most kpop groups, they’re also catering to a male audience. it’s not just polished pop aesthetics, it’s streetwear, fashion-forward, hip-hop infused energy that feels just as cool for guys as it does for girls. for a new group, they're exciting, not trying to overhype them but I can't wait to see what more they can bring as they progress and get better. submitted by /u/itsnikkie [link] [comments]

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A Japanese kpop group that made headlines and have gathered tons of attention for their song "Let me Love" produced by Jinyoung, which garnered over 700k views, have now released their newest song called "Aing" and it now only has 10k views for the past 12 days, making fans speculate that they've lost over 90% of their fanbase" submitted by /u/Acrobatic_Plate_3488 [link] [comments]

What of the major gateways got you into K-pop if your entry point was not specified please comment below. 3rd Gen major (Twice, Red Velvet GOT7, EXO etc) 4th Gen major (Stray Kids, Ateez, Aespa etc) View Poll submitted by /u/ARG_obesessed [link] [comments]

I don't know what sub or flair this is supposed to go under, so I apologise if this isn't the right one. But I really like BTS' music, and was wondering if anyone could reccomend me either older or newer boy groups with a similar sound? Go as nugu or as famous as you want. submitted by /u/Calm-Comfortable2659 [link] [comments]

So I have been a stan of my ult boy group, TVXQ! since early 2004 and whilst watching a show with U-Know, they were discussing the group name origins and a thought that popped into my mind about group names and it bugged me as i am also a fond linguist and like learning about different languages and so I decided to investigate but to no avail. So being new to Reddit I thought I would ask fellow k-pop redditors if their ult/fave groups are know by a different name, nickname, abbreviation anywhere in the world other than the name they debuted within Korea. I thought I would also add this in to show what I mean with my question 🙂. In Korea TVXQ are known as Dong Bang Shin Ki Abbreviated as DBSK, which is written in hangul (the Korean alphabet) as 동방신기 and in hanja (Chinese characters) as 東方神起. It is translated into English as "Rising Gods of the East." Because Chinese and Japanese also use Chinese characters, the hanja name of the band is used in those countries, but is pronounced differently. The Japanese pronuncation is romanized (written in the Latin alphabet) as Tōhōshinki and the Chinese as Tong Vfang Xien Qi abbreviated as TVXQ! Another example I can think of is the same for Girls Generation as in Korea they are known as SNSD, apologises in advanced if I am wrong. But I think this may have been a thing older gens did to help with marketing the groups as sonyosidae (소녀시대) may have been more difficult for international fans to pronounce especially to western side of the world where majority of the countries languages are have been latinised/romanised. submitted by /u/U-Know-Miyeon93 [link] [comments]

Are there idols or even whole groups that you want to be friends with ? Whether you think they're comforting or hilarious or just a good reliable person to be around etc This is supposed to be a light-hearted question so keep the "You don't know these people" comments to you . Personally I have been dreaming of befriending Seungkwan from SEVENTEEN , he seems so fun to hang out with , good at keeping conversations going , super entertaining and an absolute sweetheart overall . submitted by /u/GrabMore8308 [link] [comments]

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I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I recently saw a Monsta X video on Music Bank and realized that IM wasn't in the choreography. Can anyone tell me why? Also, why he wasn't in some other Monsta X recent videos? submitted by /u/Low_Gene144 [link] [comments]

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I thought this would be fun(I've also done this on the tripleS sub) but hopefully this will interest people in tripleS music! submitted by /u/DdeonghwaDib [link] [comments]

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People give reasons as to why non-kpop/bad kpop win award shows all the time but then suddenly stop applying that logic when it comes to Lisa. Lisa won (and this is no hate to her), because she is famous, her song is the most westernized or "normal" out of the nominations, she had big popular western artists on the song, and the VMAs could not give less of a fuck about what is and isn't kpop, they just want to make moments and get buzz. It's that simple. Nothing more to it, nothing less. submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

I'm going to keep the groups anonymous, as well as myself incase she comes across this and happens to be on this sub. I am hyperfixated on a boygroup (10 years) that has been in hot water recently due to their brand choices and their marketing choices, particularly with one member. My friend, lets call her B, dislikes this boy group for good reason. We were talking just now, and her favourite happened to win a VMA which I wanted to talk about - despite me being upset my fav had lost, I was happy for hers. I brought up how I was upset and had hoped the ranking was fairer, to which she questioned why he should've won it. She then goes into this whole thing about how she dislikes the group and antis one member, so - me getting sick of her bringing it up over and over again - told her to stop talking about it if she dislikes him so much. I told her I was hyperfixated, AKA - an indicator for her to stop as I'd already felt bad for it beforehand, and then she proceeded to talk about that member in particular and how she antis him. We haven't spoken for 33 minutes, I don't think I'm going to for the rest of the night as I'm pretty upset with her. I don't know if I'm overreacting, but it's tiring having someone tell you the same thing over and over again especially if they KNOW you like a certain group. She can dislike them and anti them, I don't care. But if I'm not judging her faves and constantly going on about how I dislike them, I want her to be the same. submitted by /u/Calm-Comfortable2659 [link] [comments]

Okay, hear me out—I love Lara Raj the talented, gorgeous, queer, authentically loud fashion queen and I love that she’s unapologetically proud of her Indian heritage. But... what’s going on with the constant oversized bindi + mega maang tikka combo? Authentic vs. Aesthetic Lara has openly said she wears the bindi and Ohm necklace as a reclamation of pride and representation. She even brings her own bindis to sets, aiming to make them “fashionable” and “fire” for brown girls growing up like her — in a world where she was made fun of for it as a kid. Many Magazines praise her as a pop baddie blueprint. Her accessories aren’t fluff — they’re identity. Why It Feels Off (Not Because of Lara) Repeating Stereotypes, Not Revising Them: There’s a difference between weaving cultural symbols into a fashion story you own—and layering them on as the identity. When every look expects the same Indian markers, it risks turning rich culture into one-note representation. Lara slays in looks that merge South Asian cues with modern fashion—like a subtle silver bindi + nose ring grounding a high-glam, Y2K-inspired ensemble. It can feel powerful, expressive, and authentic. These symbols come across as if they are a personal storytelling, not staged gimmicks. I adore Lara Raj and what she means to representation—and I appreciate the intentionality. But when fashion becomes a checklist of cultural signifiers, it stops being expressive and starts feeling performative. Can we get styling as dynamic as her identity? More than often the way her styling gets executed feels… stereotypical? Instead of cultural representation evolving with the fashion, it often looks like outdated “ITV villain aesthetics” pasted on top of otherwise great looks. Fashion is can be daring, unapologetically experimental, and go beyond the bounds of artistry. But every time Lara’s plastered with the same jewellery on stage, it doesn’t feel like representation — it feels like stereotype. Like someone styling her doesn’t even understand why that jewellery exists in the first place. Like at the VMAs — the Dolce & Gabbana black corset bodysuit was a serve. And then came the massive maang tikka, gaudy bindi, and golden Bajuband/Armlet and some Mehendi/Henna to add that extra oomph. Suddenly it felt less like a cohesive look and more like a checklist of cultural props. It’s like her “Indian” identity is being boiled down to what the West or sometimes the Koreans, think Indian fashion is: a giant maang tikka + dramatic bindi combo, no matter the outfit. Apparently that’s enough to say: yep, she’s the Indian one. Indian fashion is so much bigger than that. Even Indian celebs today spend months coordinating outfits where heritage complements the styling, not swallows it whole. Jewellery has context, time, and place. But with Lara, it often feels like her entire Indian identity is reduced to OTT accessories. We already know Lara is of Indian ethnicity. We already know she’s representing a community that often gets overlooked in K-pop. That fact doesn’t need to be hammered home by throwing every stereotypical piece of jewellery on her that screams INDIAN. Her stylists need to understand that culture can be a layer of her identity, not her entire personality. So yes, I’m confused, minimally bothered—but deeply hoping Lara’s styling team really gets that her culture isn’t just decoration—it’s her narrative. Culture deserves nuance, not caricature. submitted by /u/Scared_Energy_0910 [link] [comments]