Would you rather your fave group have comebacks with AMAZING TTs and trash b-sides or simply good TTs with great b-sides?

SM def has some of the best vocalists in Kpop, but not every member in every SM group is on that level. Just bc a group is from SM doesn’t mean every member can sing like a main vocal. Their main vocalists are one of the best, but they’re not no.1 in the industry or the best of their generation. In H.O.T., S.E.S., and Fly To The Sky, only Kangta, Bada, and Hwanhee really stood out. The others could sing, but they weren’t anything special. The only SM group where every member had strong enough vocals to be main/lead vocalists were TVXQ (OT5) and the only SM group where every member had strong enough vocals to be main vocalists is CSJH The Grace. Even then, Sohyang, Lena Park, Naul, and Ock Joohyun from Fin.K.L are more noteworthy compared to Bada or Hwanhee. Haeri (Davichi), Lee Younghyun (Big Mama), and Sandeul (B1A4) are stronger vocalists than Ryeowook, Luna, Taeyeon, Jonghyun, Onew, Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yesung. Lee Younghyun is about even with Kyuhyun, and Jung Dongha is better than him. Hyolyn (SISTAR) is better than Luna, Taeyeon, Jonghyun, Onew, Junsu, Jaejoong, and Yesung. All of Super Junior (OT15) can sing, but only three or four members really stand out (if you include KRY and Zhoumi). SNSD is a strong group vocally, but only about half are truly great singers, with Taeyeon being the clear standout. SHINee has an excellent vocal line as well, but it’s mostly Jonghyun and Onew who carry the weight. Everyone in f(x) can hold a tune, but Luna is the only one who is exceptional. Big Mama as a group is vocally stronger than TVXQ, CSJH, Super Junior, SNSD, SHINee, and f(x). Ailee, Shannon Williams, Uji (BESTie), and Dia (Kiss&Cry) are all better than Wendy. Ailee and Shannon also have stronger vocals than Chen. EXO has good vocals across the board, but only Chen, D.O., and Baekhyun are truly exceptional. Even then, Eunkwang (BTOB), Dohyuk, Uji, Dia, Shannon, and Ailee can outsing D.O. and Baekhyun. Roy Kim, Seunghwan, and Rockhyun are on a similar level with them. Seungkwan (Seventeen), Minseok (Melomance), Hweseung (N.Flying), Janghyun (Vromance), Inseong (SF9), Hyukjin (FAVE1), Jaehwan (Wanna One), Yonghoon (ONEWE), Jamie and Yerin (15&), Haena (Kiss&Cry), Solji (EXID), Solar (Mamamoo), Linzy (Fiestar), Kim Dohee/High.D (Sonamoo), Yuju (GFRIEND), Bohyung (Spica), and Sejeong (I.O.I/Gugudan) are just as good as Taeil and Doyoung and all of them are stronger vocalists than Jaehyun, Jungwoo, Chenle, Haechan, and Renjun. As full groups, Mamamoo, BTOB, Kiss&Cry, and 15& are stronger vocally than Red Velvet, NCT 127, and NCT DREAM. Parc Jaejung (MSG Wannabe), Minwook (Newkidd), Mingyu (DKZ), KCM (MSG Wannabe), and Teo (DKB) are stronger than Xiaojun. Lee Mujin, Jongho (ATEEZ), Woobin (Cravity), Jooyeon (Xdinary Heroes), Jaeyun (TO1), and Junhyeok (TNX) are about equal to Xiaojun in terms of vocal skill. Nayul and Yerim (12dal), Lily and Haewon (NMIXX), Jungwoo (BVNDIT), and Swan (CRAXY) all have better vocals than Ningning. Seungeon (EVNNE) is better than Jaehee, and Taerae (ZB1) is right up there with him. In fact, Taerae has stronger vocals than Sohee. Jaehee is arguably the second strongest vocalist in 5th gen after Seungeon. Sohee is in top 5. As for H2H, I need to wait for a few months before I can comment. I'm tired of Pink Bloods constantly trying to downplay amazing vocalists that aren't from SM. It's true that SM has the best vocals among the Big 4 but that doesn’t mean they are the best in the entire industry. There are idols that are from mid sized or small companies/lesser known idols that are better than them. Pink Bloods on Reddit don't want to admit that NMIXX is better than Aespa in terms of vocals. submitted by /u/__beryl [link] [comments]

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So over the last two weeks or so I've been in the process of changing emails and everything that comes with that, as I save videos and photos I couldn't help but come across various screenshots from Vlive, including idols liking my comments on IG like 24K Cory, Lucente Taejun and MVP but this also included lots from VAV Ayno and St.Van!. During this I found some of my older playlist I made when I was younger and in school, this included a lot of VAV and I remembered why I fell so in love with them in the first place and genuinely love their smiles and laughter. (Although I will fully admit I got confused with the western boy band I liked at the time called The Vampz so when people talked about VAV fandom for a while I was confused lol.) Within these playlists I found a lot of songs with lyrics and melodies I surprisingly actually still remember but it also reminded me why I fell so in love with VAV back then (yes even despite their werewolf phase) as I listened to Flower (You) https://youtu.be/G-kAKbmB2NY . But they geniunely seem so sweet, kind hearted and well natured/good guys. St.Van (who's name is Lee Geum Hyuk) talented vocals in general deserve so much love, he carries his tune so well and as I currently listen to his cover here https://youtu.be/qc3Xgik6E5I & https://youtu.be/DTx6_9yJIKU, I love how he carries himself as an artist. I think Ace does a great job at covers to https://youtu.be/KHvwMPxe6as . If you haven't heard of VAV before, here's some of my favourites~ https://youtu.be/0PbVecJZb8Y https://youtu.be/p8h6SUB70c4 https://youtu.be/CRFPo21qN6M https://youtu.be/VOCRCbuaTxU submitted by /u/Responsible-Box2876 [link] [comments]

When checking out a k-pop group, what moment did you latch on to that made you decide right then and there that this would be your bias? Included in photos: 1. Mia from Everglow - Slay 2. Jeonghan from Seventeen - Maestro 3. Momo from Twice - Likey submitted by /u/therealKittyKatBug [link] [comments]

HIghs are still missing rollercoaster studio version, the closest we’ve come to it is a vlive concert archive (pledis girlz era). i asked eunwoo thru insta qna if there’s any unreleased songs and she said around 7 albums worth, full choreo planned. have there been any leaks in the past? submitted by /u/nicojpeg [link] [comments]

Not the most famous but the one that screams "THAT'S IT! THAT'S THEM IF THEY WERE A SONG!" And why you think so of course! :) I'll start: ATEEZ is The Real. The lyrics perfectly describe the group per se. Examples are "We live passionately but have more humbleness and kindness the anyone else" that describe how on the stage they may seems quite 'a lot' and 'scary' but are actually 8 kind and easygoing dudes, or "Costantly rolling an empty wagon that is so noisy. I frown my eyebrow but greeting are 90 degrees" joking and humouring about people calling their music 'noisy'. submitted by /u/leosoleo [link] [comments]

for me is that im the youngest in my family but i eat first submitted by /u/FullTea6995 [link] [comments]

Did y'all see the Buzzfeed Puppy Interview? Lara has been super open about loving Jimin for a while, Sophia with BTS too. They're all signed to HYBE & said BTS is a big reason they're even there. So does anyone think any members will collab with a single member like they said Jungkook for example or BTS/KATSEYE? Don't come for me please 😭 submitted by /u/Invisible_Rain11 [link] [comments]

I don't mean simply "underrated" songs, I mean ones that for some reason no one talks about (inside and outside your fandom) but are incredibly good songs. Also why you think they are "hidden"? Let me know your thoughts! :) submitted by /u/leosoleo [link] [comments]

Not exclusively on here, but there seems to be a widely spread notion that newer idols(late 4th gen to 5th gen) seem to getting worse at their jobs in comparison to the their predecessors but I think that's false. Partly due to nostalgia, kpop stans have a rather idolatry views of earlier gens of 2nd gen, 3rd gen and early 4th gen and would always rank them above 5th gen which I don't really have a problem with since I share the same sentiment but when it comes to the job of being a Kpop idol itself? Nothing has really changed imo, there are still an influx of potential vocal powerhouses and promising rappers in 5th gen,basic performance fundamentals are still also present, you can put a lot of these idols in an earlier gen group and they won't look lost. However, I think the opinion of idols getting worse in 5th gen comes from the change in presentation that the industry has experienced recently,things like dance focused performances(that can come off as boring), lipsynching being far too common and the lack of popular variety shows to help these idols to promote themselves better and in a more genuine way. These changes in presentation has led to people being very dismissive of or bored by the current gen and what they have to offer, therefore, lowering general interest in the industry. So I think the industry has gotten worse but not the idols that are debuting in the current gen, it's just that people interchange these scenarios but that's just my opinion really submitted by /u/Zestyclose-Bridge830 [link] [comments]

I know that we're in boys ll planet era now, but let's remember these 3 survival shows, let's remember about the talented trainees that unfortunately didn't debut, mine is: • Kang hyunwoo (project 7) • Syo (starlight boys) • Kim joohyoung (universe league) [he is my top, i love him so much, he's an ace] • Duan xingxing (starlight boys) • Abe yura (project 7) • i don't remember his name, but he is a talented rapper (not yechan), he is a blonde guy with a band-aid on the cheek I didn't put boys planet (the one that debuted zb1) because i didn't watched it submitted by /u/Nai_multistan [link] [comments]

Title is a bit dramatic but I didn't know how to call it otherwise lol. But for people who do not know who Trainee A was, they were originally a pre-debut group under Bighit set to debut likely in 2022 somewhere. The line up existed out of: Leo, James, JJ, Sangwon, Yorch, Jihoon and Woochan. The group were really close to debuting, but it fell apart when Leo (the ace of the group) left due to a scandal involving violent lyrics. This has led Bighit to completely revise the project causing the trainees to be cut. The members of Trainee A have slowly being popping up in interesting places to say the least; - JJ (one of the dancers) is currently part of SM's newest group of trainees and will highly likely be debuting in their newest boygroup - Jihoon debuted in TWS under Pledis - Sangwon and Leo are currently in boyplanet 2 with Sangwon being highly favored and a frontrunner - Woochan recently debuted under TBL as part of ADP - James is part of the upcoming bighit boygroup, he is the only original Trainee A member who remained in Bighit. - Yorch is currently a member POW, a boygroup under a tiny label. It's interesting how everything would've turned out had Trainee A not disbanded due to controversy, a lot of the upcoming big groups would've not looked the way they are now. I do wonder how the group would have looked like if the project didn't fall apart, they had a star lineup there. There's are still a lot of vids of all the trainees hanging out and practicing together, it will be really interesting media to look back on in the future when all of them officially debut. submitted by /u/Frequent_Shop [link] [comments]

Hi guys, I’m ngl I’m kinda shy to post this but if you ever wanted to watch someone (hopefully entertaining) learn how to dance, I’ll shamelessly plug my video 😭. Let me know what you think about my video and any critiques you have 🤓 submitted by /u/shinigamipeezy [link] [comments]

I was hardcore fan of KPOP since 2017 until 2022. The best times. BTS got me in. MIC drop sounded a banger to me. Then explored other groups and boy the musics were fantastic! The visuals, choreographs, stage performances, their own reality shows, dance practices man i loved it all. BTS wasn’t overhyped back then, but it was certainly getting a lot popular. Their music is still fascinating to me. Other groups like EXO, GOT7, MONSTA X, Super junior, ikon, Astro, Wanna One, 2pm, Seventeen, Big bang, stray kids, WINNER, The Boyz, Pentagon, JBJ, X1, ONEUS you name it i was fan of it all. NCT kept growing but i think when i first started Lucas joined. Miss those days when i used to wake up and i watched all those songs and wondered why didn’t i find these sooner. Heck i even thought Taekook was real and Blackpink and BTS dated each other. Lmao. I listened to girl groups too. Blackpink, Twice, Mamamoo, Dreamcatcher, Apink, Gfriend, Loona,G idle, Girls generation and many more. Loved all of them. The peak year in my opinion was 2018-2022. Every song was a hit. Every show mainly Produce 101 S2 was a hit. M2 relay dances were so fun to watch. Until after pandemic. I am not sure where it all went wrong for me. Too many new fans started overhyping BTS and Blackpink. In my personal opinion, BTS deserved it. But honestly, Blackpink didn’t yet. DDDD was super nice, and the songs before that. But after that Blackpink didn’t really gave energy, it seemed like they didn’t love performing. At that point i grew out of my shipping phase or saying the oppa noona phase. I just loved them and listened to their songs with excitement. Every groups. But man the new fans started to put other groups down. Saying only BTS or Blackpink is the best others are bs. It annoyed the shit out of me. I loved other groups too. As much as it made me proud of their accomplishments, it made me sad that the biased fans put the other groups down and they deserved the praise too. I hope other old multi stans agree with me. Gradually over the next years, new groups came. But somehow the songs weren’t that much of a bop anymore. Aespa was way overhyped, there were other groups too. BTS stopped singing korean songs and focused on more english pop, it kind of made me miss the old songs. Blackpink barely dropped anything, Exo too, GOT7 left JYP, Wonho and Soojin and Lucas left the groups for the rumours. KPOP wasn’t like before anymore. I didn’t like Butter or Dynamite that much, heard it and enjoyed it but it wasn’t even on the level of Boy with Luv or Fake love. And the new fans just kept on bragging and overhyping. And then along the way, i stopped staning. I wasn’t an ARMY or Blink or Ahgase anymore. I was just a fan and an old lover of Kpop. I think the biggest reason or flaw of BTS or Blackpink rn is their new fans. And overall the whole kpop is leaning towards how much short clothes they can wear or how many English lines they can add. I might get backlashes for this. But it’s fine I can fight. I still listen to old songs and try out the new songs here and then. I still watch RUN BTS whenever i feel down. I love those boys. So happy for them. But i honestly want them to come back and release the korean bops they did. Together. I miss the old K-pop’s. 2012-2021 were the best years of kpop and it’s the truth. I hope there are some multi stans who can agree with me. My advice for the new fans is don’t overhype it, listen to other group’s songs too, BTS or Blackpink aren’t everything. BTS did make Kpop popular but trust me the old songs are better compared to the new ones. You might think it’s nostalgia but really, the lyrics were so deep. Don’t insult other bands. Try other bands, they are so good too. submitted by /u/herte18 [link] [comments]

https://preview.redd.it/rbuek0nrbq9f1.jpg?width=752&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9177eca7a90742ceb850ebf38f3330de7d4f3b5 https://preview.redd.it/twlpq2nrbq9f1.jpg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=834b5515f3b9bcf68eab02b0c7cfb2a34b9c37df the question that started it all... I'm not a fan of theirs so can anyone verify that he actually said this?? I'm really gobsmacked... submitted by /u/Lost-Opinion3554 [link] [comments]

Hi everyone! I'm a moderator of a new Reddit Original Character Roleplay sub called r/IdolAcademyRP. It's an immersive, Discord-free, K‑pop-inspired story world where you can play idols, trainees, staff — and even stir drama via “Dispatch” style articles. We just launched, have a bunch of open threads ready to jump into, and would love to invite any fanfiction‑oriented K‑pop lovers over. If you’re curious, feel free to check us out! submitted by /u/Fun-Caterpillar3126 [link] [comments]

So I watched Kpop Demon Hunters yesterday. Thought it was fine, funny at times, with pretty nice animation and style. If you want my opinion: I thought the plot was rushed a bit and the characters's backstories felt a little under developed and the emotional beats didn't quite deliver as I would've liked. Anyways, I personally didn't vibe with the music too much, except for Golden, which reminded me of IVE's I Am (a song I absolutely love). To my point, Soda Pop reminded me of a Pepsi ad from a few years back that suddenly sprung into my head. Both kinda share that over produced and commercialized pop high gloss sheen. If you liked the song, and would like to explore other Kpop songs that have a similar vibe, I have some recommendations: * Astro - Candy Sugar Crush * Astro - Hide & Seek * Victon - I'm Fine * ZeroBaseOne - Feel the Pop * ZeroBaseOne - Jelly Pop submitted by /u/Ahoy_ahoy_atiny [link] [comments]