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You Can Love an Idol and Still Be Real About Them

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apparently some people misunderstood my first post so let me clarify. i’ve been a fan of wonyoung since the IZ\ONE* days — i genuinely admire her, she’s been my bias for years. but i’ve noticed that lately, if someone says anything that isn’t 100% praise, even in a respectful way, it’s immediately labeled as hate. under a video where she did a lowkey cringey aegyo, i said something like: “i love her, but this one was a little cringe ngl 😭” and that was enough to get backlash. people saying: “just scroll.” “don’t say that under fan posts.” “you’re just a hater.” like… what?? i literally said i love her. i didn’t attack her. i just made a lighthearted comment about a specific moment — not her as a person. since when does being a fan mean acting like the person is perfect 24/7? idols are human. sometimes they’ll do something that feels awkward, and that’s completely normal. noticing that doesn’t mean i suddenly hate her. So here are some things I want to make clear 👉🏽 Before anyone says “you knew people would be hyping her up, why go there to say something different?” That is the problem. If fan spaces only allow praise and shut down any other emotion — even respectful ones — then it’s not a fan space anymore. It’s just a worship circle. Saying something like “that moment was a little cringe” isn’t hate — it’s nuance. And if nuance isn’t allowed… then you’re not defending a person, you’re defending a fantasy. 👉🏽 “But you were in the wrong environment for that comment!” If we’re now expecting people to “read the room” and say only what the majority wants to hear, isn’t that literally how echo chambers work? Should I only give my opinion where it won’t make anyone uncomfortable — even if I say it kindly and constructively? 👉🏽 “You could’ve just scrolled.” That logic works both ways. If my comment bothers you, you could’ve scrolled too. You chose to engage — just like I did. 👉🏽 “Saying ‘I love x BUT’ is just a shield to hate.” No. That’s what people say when they actually like someone but are being honest about a specific thing. K-pop fans need to stop assuming every mildly critical comment is an attack. I'm not an anti — I just don't pretend my bias is flawless every second of the day. This whole experience made me realize how hard it’s become to even be slightly honest without being shut down. I wasn’t rude, I wasn’t mean. I said something genuine — and suddenly I’m the villain? Maybe it’s time for fan spaces to stop being allergic to respectful disagreement. You can love someone and still say, “eh, that one thing didn’t hit.” i think real fans are able to say: “i love her, and that moment wasn’t for me.” that’s not hate. that’s being honest. and if that’s not allowed anymore, then maybe the problem isn’t the opinion — it’s how fragile some corners of stan culture have become. submitted by /u/Distinct-Egg-7973 [link] [comments]

3.693. Favorite group/soloist beginning with V

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im only counting the groups/soloists which have the highest votes the top 5 results for favorite group/soloist beginning with U: U Kiss - 23 UAU - 20 Unis - 14 Uniq - 10 Up10tion - 9 submitted by /u/Fun_Mine_4937 [link] [comments]

3.694. every survival shows I have seen are always full with 'I will drop this show' post-episode discussion but nothing is actually affected

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currently, boys 2 planet is airing and let's just say this show is a mess from the start. the k center is a bully, the chinese trainees are mistreated, the inconsistent judges (or they call masters here), the blatant favoritism and bias. I'm not saying all those should be normalized but they literally happen in every damn survival shows, especially the ones from mnet. they are horrible, through and thorough. I don't know what people were expecting. since the produce series, all this bad stuff keeps happening. at this point people should just give it up. don't watch. just wait until the next episodes and you will see the performances trending again and people will continue watching. not to mention whiplash will be performed by some of the most popular trainees. they said the first season was better like hell no I didn't even watch it but the stuff trending on Twitter with many negative comments, I remember them. the vibe wasn't anything different. kpop fans have selective memory after all. this feels so much like going back to your ex and expecting different ending but are only met with the same damn situation all over again submitted by /u/prettyokayfornows [link] [comments]

3.695. What are your opinions about judging like this?

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https://reddit.com/link/1m95zvi/video/1u3xvz9n52ff1/player for some context, the judge's name is Jaejoong and he is an ex-member of an SM group called TVXQ and was black-listed. The show's name is BOYS PLANET II (?) and the contestants had performed really well and the judges said that they looked like veterans BUT that they couldn't get ALL STARS (I think it refers to full points) because of their visuals and overall physique I absolutely hate these remarks because all this 'visuals over talent' will inevitably end up destroying the industry sooner than later. What are your thoughts about this? submitted by /u/hellhound_1505 [link] [comments]

3.696. Snark subs are just normalized hate farms

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Saw a comment of someone calling Jungkook stupid and ugly and ... I mean I don't have anything else to say but "are we seriously normalizing hate?". Before you say "no one did anything when the black pink snark was created", I didn't know about that. Regardless, hate, misogyny, it's never okay. I was made more aware of these things after the BTS snark sub was created but I think the black pink one is ridiculous too. I just wish snark subs were genuine criticism instead of just plain hate. Even the definition of snark is being critical or sarcastic. But these people are just terrible and I mean both the bp misgoynists, and the BTS haters. submitted by /u/No-Gap-8654 [link] [comments]

3.697. You chose Irene as the visual in this “perfect” third gen kpop group! Now choose the FOTG *COED AND THIRD GEN* its fine if it ends up being a gg instead since girl idols r taking the lead 🙈 but still choose boy idols if its the better choice for the category

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3.698. Ask a still fairly new (2yr) kpop listener anything

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3.699. 💬 Your next tattoo is the first K-pop song you ever heard — what are you permanently stuck with? 😭💖💉

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I’ll go first: Fake Love by BTS. Yes, I’m fully prepared to walk around with that inked across my ribcage but probably in Hangul with the love yourself logo on the album traced around it Now your turn — what song would be forever etched into your skin and your soul? 👀 Bonus points if it’s some 2nd gen cringe like Ring Ding Dong – SHINee 🔔 or NCT’s Sticker. 😂😵‍💫 Let’s see who has the most chaotic or poetic first song… 👇 submitted by /u/Even_Assignment_213 [link] [comments]

3.700. Share two contrasting pictures of the same idol

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That'll make you doubt that are they even the same person submitted by /u/ellipseie [link] [comments]

3.701. My girl group teighr list as of July 2025

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3.702. You Can Love an Idol and Still Be Real About Them

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apparently some people misunderstood my first post so let me clarify. i’ve been a fan of wonyoung since the IZ\ONE* days — i genuinely admire her, she’s been my bias for years. but i’ve noticed that lately, if someone says anything that isn’t 100% praise, even in a respectful way, it’s immediately labeled as hate. under a video where she did a lowkey cringey aegyo, i said something like: “i love her, but this one was a little cringe ngl 😭” and that was enough to get backlash. people saying: “just scroll.” “don’t say that under fan posts.” “you’re just a hater.” like… what?? i literally said i love her. i didn’t attack her. i just made a lighthearted comment about a specific moment — not her as a person. since when does being a fan mean acting like the person is perfect 24/7? idols are human. sometimes they’ll do something that feels awkward, and that’s completely normal. noticing that doesn’t mean i suddenly hate her. So here are some things I want to make clear 👉🏽 Before anyone says “you knew people would be hyping her up, why go there to say something different?” That is the problem. If fan spaces only allow praise and shut down any other emotion — even respectful ones — then it’s not a fan space anymore. It’s just a worship circle. Saying something like “that moment was a little cringe” isn’t hate — it’s nuance. And if nuance isn’t allowed… then you’re not defending a person, you’re defending a fantasy. 👉🏽 “But you were in the wrong environment for that comment!” If we’re now expecting people to “read the room” and say only what the majority wants to hear, isn’t that literally how echo chambers work? Should I only give my opinion where it won’t make anyone uncomfortable — even if I say it kindly and constructively? 👉🏽 “You could’ve just scrolled.” That logic works both ways. If my comment bothers you, you could’ve scrolled too. You chose to engage — just like I did. 👉🏽 “Saying ‘I love x BUT’ is just a shield to hate.” No. That’s what people say when they actually like someone but are being honest about a specific thing. K-pop fans need to stop assuming every mildly critical comment is an attack. I'm not an anti — I just don't pretend my bias is flawless every second of the day. This whole experience made me realize how hard it’s become to even be slightly honest without being shut down. I wasn’t rude, I wasn’t mean. I said something genuine — and suddenly I’m the villain? Maybe it’s time for fan spaces to stop being allergic to respectful disagreement. You can love someone and still say, “eh, that one thing didn’t hit.” i think real fans are able to say: “i love her, and that moment wasn’t for me.” that’s not hate. that’s being honest. and if that’s not allowed anymore, then maybe the problem isn’t the opinion — it’s how fragile some corners of stan culture have become. submitted by /u/Distinct-Egg-7973 [link] [comments]

3.703. Baby DONT Cry - Perfect Night (orig. LE SSERAFIM) @ KBS The Seasons: Park Bo Gum’s Cantabile (250725)

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3.704. Baby DONT Cry - TOMBOY (orig. i-dle) @ KBS The Seasons: Park Bo Gum’s Cantabile (250725)

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3.705. KPop Demon Hunters OST’s “Golden” by HUNTR/X, EJAE, AUDREY NUNA, and REI AMI rises to a new peak of #4, while “Your Idol” by Saja Boys, Andrew Choi, Neckwav, Danny Chung, KEVIN WOO, and samUIL Lee climbs to a new peak of #14 on the UK Official Singles Chart

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3.706. I think shippers have gone so far with shipping...

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I think.. Jikookers and their misgendering of Jimin had crossed boundaries.. They're not just comfortable with misgendering him but they're homophobic! They claim jungkook would never be with a man while shipping jikook? Yesterday X (Twitter) was a mess. Jikookers were claiming big muscles means = straight and jungkook having big muscles means he's definitely straight and would never be with a man while shipping him with Jimin who is a MAN? So jikookers admitted they see Jimin as a "feminine boy" because they want him to be a woman alike for Jungkook and not because "they want to accept him the way he is" ?? They're not even trying to hide their homophobia.. They're shipping jikook as a heterosexual couple and aren't even ashamed yet they call everyone homophobic for not believing jikook are real and for stating Jimin is into women (not assuming anything but as far as I know, he had shown attraction towards women) ? I think it's time people get rid of them.. I'm not sorry Jimin is a MAN and he's definitely NOT a ship tool for none of bts members... submitted by /u/S0larecl1pse1 [link] [comments]

3.707. TXT, ITZY, NCT, The Boyz, Rocket Punch, Stayc, Katseye, Enhypen, Day6, Fitsland, N.flying, Blackpink

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3.708. xikers will be a special guest at ATEEZ's 'IN YOUR FANTASY' world tour stops in Los Angeles and Arlington

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3.709. Why do some Wonyoung fans think she is the most perfect human being ever??

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some ppl look at wonyoung and think she is the most perfect human being ever and does not have any flaws like bfr rn 🥀🥀💔 no hate she is my bias but i am aware she is a human being like everyone else, i dont glaze her and glorify everything she does, im not dumb...once i saw a video of her doing a lowk cringy aegyo and i commented: "i LUV her but she indeed acts cringe sometimes" and ppl started to attack me???? saying: "ok if you do the same thing you will not feel cringe and leave her let her be" uhm, WHAT. I literally said i LOVE her and ppl saw my comment as a hate comment, like bfr...some wonyoung fans are like sheeps or are just dumb asf like wtf.. submitted by /u/Distinct-Egg-7973 [link] [comments]

3.710. Stray Kids - 2025 STAYweeK (Timetable)

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3.711. Kang Daniel - 2025 Tour in USA ‘ACT : NEW EPISODE’ (Venues Announcement)

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