It's one thing to dislike group's discography, performance or finding the members irksome. There's thousands — if not millions — kpop fans all over the world and it's simply impossible for them to have the same taste in music. However, there are certain people, who can't stand that the groups they dislike are going great and possibly even greater than their favs. This is especially true when it comes to KATSEYE, which brings us today's discussion. 2025 has been an amazing year for KATSEYE and they definitely dominated both, kpop AND western scene with their songs Gnarly and Gabriela. And before anyone gets too excited to shade me in the comments: ‼️ I know the group is considered local, but they are obviously using kpop methology in their training system, music style and so on. (Not mentioning they were literally formed by HYBE Corporation) Also, they are well loved by kpop industry and have most of their fanbase located there. ‼️ Now that we've got that settled, let's get to the real thing. Tiktok has been a literal HELL over the past few weeks, poisoned by KATSEYE haters. The comments are insane and range from RACISM to SEXISM to music critique. And so much more. Let's discuss some of the most common reasons the girls get hated on: 🥉~ "The music is ahh. The lyrics have zero meaning, choreography makes them look like tryhards and the concept is cringe." ~ Again, not everybody is going to like same things in music and that's okay. The thing is, most people (esp. haters) are pointing obvious symbols/signs of kpop music, calling it "trash". Like any music genre, kpop differs from other types of music—especially WESTERN music. Remember Zimzalabim by RV? Ring Ding Dong by SHINee? Hell, remember ANY older songs from SHINee? In my head, that's what kpop sounds like. Sure, we have a number of amazing westernised singles by some kpop groups, but those are exceptions rather than standard. Kpop is kpop and while it's plenty diverse, I believe that at its core it's a bit cuckoo. 🤷🏽♀️ If you ain't embarrassed to play kpop to your friends & family, are you really a stan? 🥈 SEXISM. Yes, unfortunately a very common thing among GGs. I mean, why are people hating on Manon because she apparently "can't shake it like the others"? Why are people doing videos zooming in on Lara's chest and discussing her "breast reduction"? Let the girls breathe, damn. And all of the "it's about the performance" and "people had always talked about plastic surgeries on idols" is NOT SAVING YALL. Could you remind me a time, when we dragged male idols because of their "thrust game"? Have you ever heard something as ridiculous as "He shouldn't be in the group if he can't thrust during the dance as others. Like come on, it's supposed to be more aggressive. 😠" No you haven't. Why? Because your body is only your business if you're a male. And in kpop, sometimes even that isn't a norm. This is NOT about the performance or wellbeing of the girls. This is pure sexualisation and sexism. Thank you, next. 🥇And the big winner is RACISM. This is going to be frank. Just 3 points are enough for this topic: How are you gonna be racist in the big 2025 towards a MIXED group? 💔🥀 I fear, everyone already knows they ain't white, no need to do Tiktoks about it. I'm so sorry to inform you, but if someone from the committee said Manon is naturally talented, it doesn't mean other (white) contestants were at disadvantage and she got in the group only because she's black. (This "theory" is very much real and comes from Tiktok) People saying thay Yoonchae is not one of them, as if other members are some kind of animals. 🤨 Please, are we seriously that obsessed with race that we can't acknowledge beauty and talent beyond Korean and white people? Do better. Honestly, that's all for today. Thank you for coming to my Tedtalk. 💜 submitted by /u/screepybaby [link] [comments]