Unpopular opinion on Jisoo's dancing. What do you guys think about it.

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DISCLAIMER ABOUT SOURCES: We prefer to focus on official statements from companies or other vetted sources. There will be widespread speculation and rumor-heavy articles, but until presented in an official capacity we consider them unsubstantiated. As Mods, all we can do is compile and summarize, but we are not investigators or journalists. Summary of Previous Megathreads ONE and TWO and THREE contains HYBE's audit of ADOR and Min Hee Jin's 1st press conference. FOUR summarized all events up to April 30th, 2024. FIVE and SIX contains potential ADOR embezzlement, MHJ's injunction and hearing, and a letter from the parents of NewJeans. SEVEN and EIGHT and NINE contains MHJ's injunction granted May 30th and remaining ADOR CEO, HYBE replacing ADOR board members, BELIFT LAB's video regarding plagiarism and lawsuit against MHJ. TEN and ELEVEN and TWELVE contains ex-ADOR employee's sexual harassment case, band Shakatak's plagiarism claim, HYBE 2.0 and ADOR restructuring with new CEO Kim Joo Young, MV director drama, the NewJeans livestream, MHJ's 2nd injunction filing and public events/interviews. THIRTEEN and FOURTEEN and FIFTEEN contains an interview with NewJeans' parents, Hanni and CEO Kim Joo Young at the National Assembly, MHJ's reappointment as director, Kim Taeho at the National Assembly, HYBE's Weekly Industry Report leak, the court's dismissal of MHJ's 2nd Injunction, ADOR board's vote against making MHJ's CEO again, NewJeans' certified letter of ultimatum to ADOR, rejection of Hanni's workplace bullying claim by labor ministry, MHJ's resignation from ADOR, and NewJeans' contract termination press conference. SIXTEEN and SEVENTEEN and EIGHTEEN contains ADOR's 26-page response to NewJeans' certified letter, Dispatch's exposé on MHJ's alleged strategy to leave HYBE, ADOR seeking validity of NewJeans member contracts, KMCA/KOSPO statements concerning tampering, the creation of the 'jeanzforfree' Instagram account, visa concerns, Employee B's MHJ defamation mediation failing, Davolink Chairman details, first hearings for Belift Lab and Source Music vs MHJ damages cases, dismissal of former ADOR VP's workplace harassment case against HYBE/ADOR, ADOR's injunction to halt NewJeans ad deals, and NewJeans rebranding to NJZ. MEGATHREAD NINETEEN covered mid-February to early March. Contains: Reports around Hanni's visa concerns and political involvement of National Assembly member Park Ji Won, NJZ parents establishing and posting to their PR Instagram account, the conclusion of three related allegations of 'workplace harassment' with no charges against HYBE/ADOR or ADOR CEO Kim Jooyoung, the joint press conference of 5 major industry organizations regarding tampering and contractual integrity, and the provisional injunction hearing for ADOR's complaint to restrict NJZ's music activities along with new ad deals until contract validity is determined. MEGATHREAD TWENTY covered the rest of March. Contains: The provisional injunction hearing and results two weeks later granting the injunction in ADOR's favor, NewJeans' activities at ComplexCon, NewJeans' filed objection to the injunction ruling and hearing set for early April, progress for Employee B, and general media/articles around the injunction results. MEGATHREAD TWENTY ONE covered all of April. Contains: HYBE's annual shareholders' meeting, the 1st hearing for confirmation of ADOR's contract validity with NewJeans, the hearing for NewJeans' objection to the injunction ruling and subsequent rejection of their objection by the judge one week later, and the 2nd hearing regarding shareholder agreement termination validity between HYBE and MHJ was designated to run jointly along with the case around exercising put/call options. Articles / Timeline 250422 This day marks one year since HYBE launched their audit of Min Hee Jin and ADOR's management. Happy(?) 1st anniversary of the Megathreads! 250502 The 3rd hearing for Min Hee Jin vs. Belift Lab was set to take place but postponed to July 18th at Belift Lab's request. Each side is due to present their arguments/documents regarding plagiarism issues at the next meeting. (Source: Maeil Kyungjae) 250530 We learned that ADOR had filed for 'indirect enforcement' after their injunction was granted and NewJeans performed at ComplexCon back in March (Filed on April 4th according to the statement from NewJeans' representatives linked below). On the 30th, the 52nd Division of the Seoul Central District court further granted this request. The 'indirect enforcement' ruling means that each individual member of NewJeans will be fined 1 billion won (approx. $725,000) if they continue with entertainment activities independent of ADOR, which would be in violation of the injunction. This enforcement with potential fines does NOT apply to any of NewJeans' independent activities between the granting of the injunction and the granting of this 'indirect enforcement'. These fines will only apply to future activities going forward, or at least until rulings with NewJeans' appeal or the main contract validity case changes anything (next hearing on June 5th). (Source: Chosun Biz, MK Sports) The Korea Herald: Court orders NewJeans to pay Ador 1 billion won for each unauthorized activity Discussion Post Korea JoongAng Daily: Court orders NewJeans members to pay ADOR $725,600 for every independent entertainment activity A statement by NewJeans' representatives was made later in the day primarily acknowledging the indirect enforcement ruling, but reiterating that it is temporary and will no longer have an effect if NewJeans win their appeal of the injunction. (Source: Ilgan Sports) The 2nd hearing for Source Music's damages lawsuit against Min Hee Jin took place at the 12th Civil Affairs Division of the Seoul Western District Court. (Quick recap: 1st was January 10th, 2nd was previously scheduled for March 14th, postponed per Source Music's request). Legal representatives were present. Source Music had a 20-minute presentation prepared, but Min Hee Jin's representatives objected to the inclusion of KakaoTalk messages in the presentation. They claimed the messages were illegally obtained and requested the hearing to be closed/private. Source Music denied the messages were obtained illegally, claiming they were gained from company devices with consent. The court went with a temporary compromise to keep the hearing public, but not allow discussion/display of the messages until they were reviewed again. A special hearing to review the messages will take place June 27th. (Source: Sports Today) 250605 The Seoul Central District Court Division 41 held the second hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans. Only legal representatives were in attendance. NewJeans' side primarily argued that ADOR had not met their obligations and that their evidence they were preparing to support NewJeans' activities, like finding a new producer, was inadequate. ADOR's side argued that NewJeans' reasons for allegedly terminating their contract continually changed, indicating they are arbitrary and being made up with retroactive hindsight. The issue of some evidence being collected illegally also came up again from NewJeans' side. Judge Jung Hoe-Il specifically inquired if both/either sides were willing to come to an agreement, encouraging them to do so. NewJeans' representatives strongly indicated this was unlikely as the trust in ADOR had completely collapsed. ADOR's representatives indicated they could see negotiating an agreement once the court comes to a final decision. The 3rd hearing was set for July 24th. (Sources: X Sport News, Maeil Kyungjae) 250612 The next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin was held at the Seoul Central District Court's 31st Division. Arguments from each side mostly re-tread what we've already covered. HYBE's side argued they were justified in ending the shareholder agreement due to the threat Min Hee Jin posed to the company. Min Hee Hin's side argued the timing of the audit/termination did not align purely with that concern and that some KakaoTalk messages and emails were obtained illegally and not admissable as evidence. HYBE also indicated they had a witness to give testimony at the next meeting, which the court accepted. The next hearing with closing arguments, was set for September 11th for both lawsuits. (Sources: Maeil Kyungjae, TV Daily, Sports Today) 250617 Following up from April 16th when NewJeans appealed the court's decision to uphold the injunction and halt on their independent activities, the Seoul High Court reaffirmed the earlier decision. The court rejected NewJeans' appeal. They determined there was no significant change in the material/arguments presented for the appeal and the original decision to grant ADOR's injunction was justified. There was further clarification that the management conflict between HYBE and Min Hee Jin, and her no longer being NewJeans' producer, did not constitute a valid argument for the alleged collapse of trust between ADOR and NewJeans. The group's withdrawal from ADOR is considered arbitrary, that their artistic freedom or activity is not impeded since they are able to do so within their exclusive contract, and that any damages resulting from attempting independent activities are self-inflicted. (Sources: Yonhap News, NewsPim, News 1) The Korea Herald: K-pop High Court rejects NewJeans appeal, upholding ban on independent activities Post Soompi: Seoul High Court Denies NewJeans' Appeal Of Injunction Decision Looking Ahead: June 27: Special hearing for Source Music vs. MHJ to review KakaoTalk messages as evidence July 18: 3rd hearing for Belift Lab vs. MHJ (postponed from May 2nd) July 24: 3rd hearing for ADOR seeking confirmation of validity for their exclusive contract with NewJeans September 11: Next hearing regarding the Shareholder Agreement termination and exercising put/call options lawsuits between HYBE and Min Hee Jin Ongoing Legal Complaints/Investigations: HYBE's report to the Financial Supervisory Service (FSS) regarding potential insider trading by ADOR management (Korea JoongAng) HYBE's complaint against Min Hee Jin for 'breach of trust' (Yonhap) Belift Lab's complaint against Min Hee Jin for defamation (Soompi) and additionally for business interference (The Korea Herald) SOURCE MUSIC's lawsuit against Min Hee Jin for damages in regards to the disruption of business/defamation of LE SSERAFIM (Korea JoongAng) and additionally regarding alleged false claims by MHJ for the launch strategy of N Team/NewJeans (Soompi) British band Shakatak's plagiarism claim against NewJeans' 'Bubble Gum' (Yonhap) Min Hee Jin and HYBE executives filed reports against each other back-to-back (Soompi and Korea JoongAng) Former ADOR Employee 'B' filed complaint against MHJ in relation to sexual harassment cover-up and workplace mistreatment. (JTBC) MV Director Shin Woo Seok filed a lawsuit against ADOR CEO Kim Joo Young and ADOR VP Lee Do Kyung for defamation. (Korea JoongAng) MHJ's lawsuits against Belift Lab's Kim Tae Ho for defamation (Yonhap), HYBE CCO Park Tae Hee and PR Director Cho for breach of duty (Yonhap), and HYBE executives and Dispatch reporters for defamation. (Soompi) (One or both of these might be re-statements of earlier suits.) ADOR's lawsuit to determine validity of their contracts with NewJeans (Soompi) Link back to MEGATHREADS 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18 - 19 - 20 - 21 GROUND RULES IN COMMENTS If you have come to this subreddit to discuss anything, you are choosing to participate in a moderated space with rules of conduct enforced by human beings. All users are subject to the discretion of moderators to manage this space even if it's in ways you don't agree with. Do not Insult users, fans, or artists. 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Ew trump. I do not support any misogynistic, white nationalist, incel, hitler-like (esp. Musk), racists at all and neither does this sub and apparently neither does reddit as a site as a whole. He stands against everything Kpop stands for which is an art form from a formerly colonized people from a country that is rising up against colonialism and hatred. Anyone who comments anything negative to this, or tries to defend that orange guy will be banned permanently. Go somewhere else, we don't want your lower kind here. This is why American women everywhere are going 4b EDIT!!!: 4B 4B4B4B4B4B!! 4B IN THE SOUTH, 4B IN THE NORTH, 4B FROM TEXAS TO ALABAMA, FROM BYU TO COLOMBIA! 4B ALL FIFTY STATES! A CONVICTED PEDO AND FELON IS NOW PRESIDENT SO IF YOU'RE A WOMAN WITH ANY SELF RESPECT 4B, 4B, 4b (ESPCIALLY THE CONSERVATIVES!!!!) submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

Hey folks! Over in r/kpop we just posted a new special Town Hall that is focused only on the Flairs we use to help organize our posts based on content categories. Link to r/kpop's 'All About Flairs' Town Hall We included announcements for new flairs here on r/kpoppers and also on r/kpophelp. The following is the section relevant for this subreddit. NEW FLAIRS! Connect - This flair will be used for anything where fans are trying to socially connect with each other. Announcing new K-Pop subreddits or Discords, looking for mutual fans on social media, wanting to meet up at a concert, seeking fans in a region to form a dance group, networking for a fan project, announcing a K-Pop night at a club, etc. Research - Academic surveys related to K-Pop or fandom topics. We'll keep an eye on these new flairs to see if they create any confusion or need adjustments. Let us know if you have any thoughts, concerns, or questions! submitted by /u/alleybetwixt [link] [comments]

The subreddit is mostly uncensored as long as people follow the rules. Generalizing statement about Korea, Korean society, etc or most other countries are not acceptable except under the following standards: The only claims that are acceptable when generalizing Korean society in this sub are those that bring up generalizable stastical claims by the standards of the international statistics institute. Not only do the vast majority of stastistics you can find on the internet about Korea not up to this minimum, basic standard but this requirement includes having ample sample size, blocking by relevant demographics and sometimes even double blind tests. So if you make a generalizing claim, your wording must be properly formatted and links to the relevant studies provided. In other words, the standard for making a generalization is very high in this sub. Not to mention the wording for your claim has to be properly made. Anyone who has taken a college level statistics class will know what I am talking about and we may even require you to provide the confidence level interval if it's relevant for your study. If you cannot meet these standards, I would just avoid doing it in general. submitted by /u/Kpop_Love_Forever [link] [comments]

[tagging as discussion bc if it doesn't have a reason then i think it would be cool to talk/think about, and idk if anyone will have a definite answer haha] we all know how overstimulating kpop mvs can be - multiple set and outfit/makeup changes, edits/cgi, choreo shots etc. - and often there will be sUch good looks and sets but we only get to see like...10 seconds of it cut up in between other scenes so it's sort of wasted. we all know kpop companies lOve getting as many clicks, views, likes, streams as possible and how they already milk releases lol, and obvs we dO get mv behind the scenes vids - usually showing some of the group/a member filming a part of the mv and some takes, BUT i was wondering why companies don't release various videos, after an mv has been released for a bit, where each video is showing a specific set and the makeup/outfits that go with that set from the mv? (**example below) obvs minus all the takes that they wouldn't want us to see if idols looked "bad" or silly lol specifically for shots that don't require a lot of noticeable cgi *e.g. for the baggy jeans mv there would *hypothetically be a video for: • all solo shots of members w the light shining on them • black and white striped floor set • fake desert background where they're shirtless • all solo shots of them outside where the skaters are • rooftop (this has a lot of cgi but yk it's not essential) • pool table room • giant radio/speaker thing (idk what it is lol) • garage • white background and dark floor (obviously they could compile these parts into 1 long video or 1 for all solo shots and 1for group shots+choreo etc. whatever) i hope im explaining what i mean well lol💀 basically, since they already hAve many minutes of different outfits/shots/sets/choreo filmed that didn't make it into the video, why not put these into other little videos that fans can watch? in my mind this would be super beneficial in getting more traction for the song/mv, would let fans see the different outfits and sets properly, and the companies would be getting their proper money's worth out of all the things they filmed and used lmao is there something I'm missing?? like is there a very obvious reason why they don't do this or?? bc i feel like if it's not showing the idols looking "bad" in unused takes then lowkey...why not😭 it's already been filmed 😭 and it would need minimal editing of basically just splicing different shots together ESPECIALLY bc kpop is sooo saturated w content and is full of fan edits, so i think this idea just makes sense😭 submitted by /u/Important-Zombie9331 [link] [comments]

It's simple. People don't like when their favorite groups catch strays on completely unrelated posts. This goes for every platform. You don't have to compare one group's success to another to make their achievement look good. It can stand on its own. You don't have to bring up other groups that were never mentioned to throw shade mid-discussion. You don't have to make it a competition. Of course, you can do all those things, but there should be no surprise when there's a negative reaction. How you say things do impact how people receive your words. Sure, there will still be people who react negatively even if you don't put others down, but that reflects poorly on them, not you, and they will likely be a lot less if you at least try to be respectful of other groups. submitted by /u/SageSageofSages [link] [comments]

In 2023 Ready to be world tour, Chaeyoung missed PH concert and now Jeongyeon is going to miss the This is For tour PH leg on Saturday. The concert goers should get a partial refund. I know that the artists' health is always the priority. But we paid for nine, we should get nine! For context, my frustration comes from the expensive ticket prices and the concert hall itself is hard to reach so that's extra charge just to go to. submitted by /u/kuroyamaboo [link] [comments]

In 2023 Ready to be world tour, Chaeyoung missed PH concert and now Jeongyeon is going to miss the This is For tour PH leg on Saturday. The concert goers should get a partial refund. I know that the artists' health is always the priority. But we paid for nine, we should get nine! For context, my frustration comes from the expensive ticket prices and the concert hall itself is hard to reach so that's extra charge just to go to. submitted by /u/kuroyamaboo [link] [comments]

Everywhere I look I see idols from every generation getting their perfectly nice or average teeth replaced by those toilet seat veneers. They look like horses. It’s actually driving me crazy. I understand how important visuals are in the industry but these veneers should be public enemy #1 submitted by /u/Relative_Ad8166 [link] [comments]

I was reading an article about the security for Byeon Woo-seok being sentenced to fines over excessive use of force in the airport. The case happened last year. What caught my attention was this part: “The person under protection (Byun Woo-seok) did not use the airport secretly to avoid being followed, but carried out his schedule openly,” Judge Shin stated. “If (his actions at the time) were intended to prevent the person under protection from being filmed, he could have kept his schedule a secret, covered his face with a hat and mask, and moved to a quiet location.” He then criticized, “At the time, (the person under security) rather exposed his schedule and moved through places where fans gathered as if he was having a ‘fan meeting.’” (translated from the original article with google translate) We are right in the middle of PFW (with NYFW, LFW, MFW before) and there are several idols travelling for brands - and they all use the airport as a scheduled photoshoot to promote their events. The idol has to show up wearing the brand for the press to take pics, that generate articles and are posted on the brand's social media. It is part of their duties. Is this really needed in 2025? The judge talks about how the actor could have kept his schedule a secret, but this is impossible with fashion week shows. Yes, fans should not be going to the airport. But making these airport travels so public, so the idol is seen, end up encouraging fansites and have fans treat the airport as something that it isnt. And you also have a lot of press disturbing a place that is meant for regular people to just come and go, without being subjected to crowds. I believe you can still make news and have their idols post their own pictures going to events, is there really a need for brands to treat the airport as their own runway? submitted by /u/MidnightCowboy0613 [link] [comments]

Sorry the masterpiece this album is, it’s very cohesive throughout and contains so many good b-sides that I think explore a new side of music for her, I loved her album every letter I sent you but flash and core definitely feels a bit more darker thematically and slower, the jazz modulations on mirror are honestly so good. Frankly this is an album I will probably often revisit, it feels like something I would listen to if I was walking through the city during autumn or winter and exploring I think the closest I can compare this to music wise is prob Taeyeons something new mini album My favorites are television star, mirror, karma calls, another season with you, in the middle and your yerin. submitted by /u/henrietta- [link] [comments]

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I was thinking about K-pop groups who have had iconic eras: not just great albums, but times when everything about the album rollout and promotion was perfectly executed. Here are some of the elements I think contribute to a great era: Music - both title track & full album Music videos Concept photos, films, & teasers Album packaging Costumes, styling Choreo and performances Tour Promotions (release strategy, marketing materials, appearances, etc.) The "story" of the era (Did the era launch them to stardom? Were they making a "comeback" in the western sense?) Do you think there have been eras in K-pop where most or all aspects of the album rollout were iconic, not just the music? submitted by /u/pussycontrolgonemad [link] [comments]

Dahyun has won Gemini! We are now moving onto cancer Rules: Please don’t comment the same idol more than once and upvote instead Female idols ONLY, no exceptions Has to be kpop, no kpop adjacent groups like katseye or xg 1 person per group to make it fair You have 24 hours to vote! Have fun Previous winners Aries: Irene - red velvet Taurus: jiu - dreamcatcher Gemini: dahyun - twice submitted by /u/staycgurlss [link] [comments]

Winners of day 14: 4*town James Corden K3G Plagiarism is definitely allowed, even if it causes a scandal. All press is good press! (Just do some slight changes, no one will recognise it) submitted by /u/DaGayEnby [link] [comments]

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Sorry for using the term "flop" as I can't any think any word that would define a decline to the majority of K-pop groups' recognition nowadays. From day 1, I wouldn't be surprised if they would take the lead someday simply because they're enjoying being themselves and they're VERY FREE to talk any topic like gender, political issues, and many more controversial topics, something you wouldn't hear from the majority of K-pop as companies are forcing them to shut up and this is one of the major reasons I think why most people adore them. Another thing is that sometimes Katseye wouldn't bother to instantly interfere with other people in public, like when Megan and Lara just randomly joined someone's dancing video in public and just ran away as if they were strangers lol. Sofia talking about the corrupted politicians here in PH, and omg, Lara would literally give you serious life lessons and different perspectives on how you should approach situations differently, and them as a group being chaotic and talk what the hell they want to talk about. Katseye is obviously different aside from making music, they're the people who would love to enjoy with other people around and they're free to do what ever they want unlike majority of the K-pop groups just being silent by their companies. They're so vocally loud. They're the group I would listen to and get valuable lessons from them from different topics, maybe because they're not in a strict East Asian type of discipline but more of full-grown Western women who truly know their worth and know what they're fighting for. Idk but it's my opinion so pls don't hate on it. submitted by /u/Alarmed_Pepper9665 [link] [comments]

"REVIVAL OF THE RIVALS" lol Hearts2Hearts = SNSD/Girls Generation BABY DONT CRY = 4Minute ILLIT = Wonder Girls IZNA = KARA BABYMONSTER = 2NE1 MEOVV = Miss A KISS OF LIFE = Brown Eyed Girls KiiiKiii = SISTAR Of course these are not accurate! It's not all about similarities of their style and songs. And also, I can't list all groups here. You can add in the comments. Disclaimer: Some factors may affect your opinion compared to yours. So I would highly appreciate your own opinion. submitted by /u/bossbaby_shushu [link] [comments]