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why i don’t feel connected to katseye as a dark skinned black woman

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this isn’t hate to the girls, but rather the company. and yes ik katseye isn’t kpop whatever. but this is more so abt hybe x geffen. the girls obviously can’t choose to be born a certain skin tone / ethnicity so this isn’t on them whatsoever, but rather the company and their attempt to profit off of the guise of “diversity”. katseye is definitely diverse in terms of the members being of different backgrounds, but more than half the entire group is of asian descent (one of them being half white too). the latina in the group is white passing, and the black girl in the group is light skinned and mixed with white. i can’t help but feel a disconnect with the diverse and global marketing of the group because it feels like a sneaky way to profit off of being “diverse” while still making sure certain types of diversity aren’t shown. the girls themselves are extremely talented though and are deserving of being famous & recognized for their skills, so i don’t wanna take away from that at all. it’s really more about the way the company handpicked the girls & the trainees in DA. as a black woman i do get tired of never seeing people who look like me, and having a light skinned or biracial person as my “representation”. now clearly katseye aren’t dolls made to represent every person of color, but the company DOES want them to be “relatable” to the masses, their race included. or they wouldn’t have made a global group with other races besides EA. yet i feel nothing. i do look at fatou as inspiring because she does look like me, but i don’t think she gets the attention she deserves. and it really gets me thinking sometimes like, do darker skinned people / black people never audition? i doubt it. they just get overlooked because companies never want their appearance in the group. i really wish companies weren’t so afraid to show what a lot of us people of color really look like. it’s another attempt to claim diversity while still trying to build a group of beauty standards. it’s fine if i get hate for this, this is just my opinion and i don’t expect everyone to agree or understand my point. at the end of the day this isn’t a significant issue but something i had thought about. submitted by /u/Affectionate-Link436 [link] [comments]

13. Who do you think the ‘glue’ of groups you Stan is?

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By that I mean the one who keeps everyone together and helps the dynamic function. I know most people would say that a group wouldn’t work without even one member, which is fair, but what member do you think really solidifies their relationship as a group? For my 3 groups: I believe a few members of Ateez have all said Wooyoung fills this role, which I totally see Shinee’s was definitely Taemin- they could hate each other at points but came through for him so many times. K-pop equivalent of doing it for the kids With seventeen I’m not too sure, I think there are a few options but would like to hear other carats opinions submitted by /u/jakylln [link] [comments]

14. Some of these die-hard stans don’t realise that someday soon their faves will get married.

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I have been watching some clips and some comparisons between reddit fans vs yt fans vs twitter fans vs ig fans of a particular group. And the thought crossed my mind that one day sooner or later these fans will have to satisfy themselves with their idols getting married and moving on in their life. Older groups who are active for more than 10 years have been slowly shifting to that part of their life. Fans back then used to be much more mature than how it is now, where 80% of newer fans being teenagers who can’t think past 4-5 years when it comes to their future. They get so much attached to their idols that it turns into unhealthy obsession. Harming oneself for the person who doesn’t even know you exists in particular. Twitter stans are such examples to take and learn to what things NOT to do when it comes to stanning an idol or a group. Anyways, so yaa idk how these so-called diehard fans will take in when that day comes but as I say it’s what reality does. submitted by /u/Daddy1007a [link] [comments]

15. DAWN - Making Dawn's Difficult DIY Lamp (Materials: Only 50,000 Won) (250829) [ENG SUB]

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16. A little haul over the past month!

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I saw Big Ocean live on August 9th in Raleigh NC! I got to meet them as well which was amazing! They are genuinely so talented and underrated! Stan them! Also the Yes Or Yes, Fancy You, Two Taste Of Love, and Two Eyes Wide Open albums I got for free! With all the inclusions too! submitted by /u/Confident_Growth406 [link] [comments]

17. Are there idols who became more popular as soloists than they were in their groups?

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Are there any examples of idols who were among the least popular members of their group, but then they achieved way more popularity as a soloist? From what I've seen, idols who are the most popular in their groups also have the most successful solo projects, while less popular members are also less popular as soloists. But I'm interested if there are less popular group members that were able to break out by going solo. submitted by /u/eveningsnewestetoile [link] [comments]

18. I don’t have hope for girlset/JYPUSA

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Disclaimer: this isn’t a hate post towards the girls. They’re doing their jobs well. Full hate towards jypusa and the people making decisions. When I say ‘they’ that’s who I’m referring too Also I’m super happy KG is free from jyp and that situation has been resolved. You don’t get happy endings like that often in kpop —————————————————————— I don’t know what is going on inside the minds of the creative directors at jypusa, but they’re addicted to setting up these poor girls for failure. Credit where credit is due, redebuting under a different name and concept is a great idea. Girlset is a better name if not generic, certainly better than Vcha. However, you put these girls on a hiatus for well over a year on top of the previous hiatus since before KG left and go radio silent. And when you do make your grand rebranded debut and it’s a 2 minute song? Not even a music video? Filmed in a dressing room? They didn’t even label this song as a pre release or whatever so either they: 1: don’t know how to set expectations 2: they’re struggling financially and can’t afford a proper redebut 3: or they actually think this songlet is enough to satisfy fans Speaking of fans, besides the incredibly vocal vlights, I can’t imagine vcha’s casual listeners are gonna get much out of this either. The song itself is a hookless, generic nothingburger. It’s not even like, so bad or out of pocket it twists around into being good like Gnarly. It’s boring. The styling also isn’t doing anything for anyone other than Camila. Though Savanna’s hair during their first live performance looks good. I’m not a fashion person, but the MV outfits just aren’t eating. The only explanation I have is that they don’t show the girls personalities. Like they were chosen from a generic four member girl crush outfit pin on Pinterest I can’t imagine locals grabbing onto them either. They aren’t offering anything Katseye or more independent girl groups are offering but better. Especially with the controversies that dwarfed literally everything else either their names attached. With the new concept, it’s hard not to imagine that eyekons will think Vcha rebranded to better compete with katseye or ‘reheat their nachos’ or whatever. So that’s more shit they have fresh off their redebut The only was I see the creative team fixing this is if they get a really good creative director in tune with what the members want to do as a group and or let the members make creative decisions. But JYPUSA hasn’t given me a reason to think they’ll do that submitted by /u/LavaRoseKinnie [link] [comments]

19. who would you cast in a season of kpopped?

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kpopped was recently released and i binged watched the episodes this morning during work 🥲 it made me think though during Patti LaBelle’s episode that mamamoo would have been a great addition to the show! i know obviously they’re doing solo stuff currently and possibly for the foreseeable future but they would have done great. who would you want to see? submitted by /u/user37532 [link] [comments]

20. are there any kpop idols who are atheist??

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just saw the other post and was wondering if any idols have explicitly said they’re atheist..? would be interesting to see, since afaik korea is mostly irreligious but a lot of people still believe in god submitted by /u/kkazugyu [link] [comments]

21. Girlset fans having some of the worst fans wasn't on my 2025 bingo card 😭

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Apologies to all the actual good Girlset fans Also saying Girlset isn't kpop does not change the fact that the comeback was disappointing (and yes I have seen many fans use this excuse) submitted by /u/SnooOranges829 [link] [comments]

22. why i don’t feel connected to katseye as a dark skinned black woman

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this isn’t hate to the girls, but rather the company. and yes ik katseye isn’t kpop whatever. but this is more so abt hybe x geffen. the girls obviously can’t choose to be born a certain skin tone / ethnicity so this isn’t on them whatsoever, but rather the company and their attempt to profit off of the guise of “diversity”. katseye is definitely diverse in terms of the members being of different backgrounds, but more than half the entire group is of asian descent (one of them being half white too). the latina in the group is white passing, and the black girl in the group is light skinned and mixed with white. i can’t help but feel a disconnect with the diverse and global marketing of the group because it feels like a sneaky way to profit off of being “diverse” while still making sure certain types of diversity aren’t shown. the girls themselves are extremely talented though and are deserving of being famous & recognized for their skills, so i don’t wanna take away from that at all. it’s really more about the way the company handpicked the girls & the trainees in DA. as a black woman i do get tired of never seeing people who look like me, and having a light skinned or biracial person as my “representation”. now clearly katseye aren’t dolls made to represent every person of color, but the company DOES want them to be “relatable” to the masses, their race included. or they wouldn’t have made a global group with other races besides EA. yet i feel nothing. i do look at fatou as inspiring because she does look like me, but i don’t think she gets the attention she deserves. and it really gets me thinking sometimes like, do darker skinned people / black people never audition? i doubt it. they just get overlooked because companies never want their appearance in the group. i really wish companies weren’t so afraid to show what a lot of us people of color really look like. it’s another attempt to claim diversity while still trying to build a group of beauty standards. it’s fine if i get hate for this, this is just my opinion and i don’t expect everyone to agree or understand my point. at the end of the day this isn’t a significant issue but something i had thought about. submitted by /u/Affectionate-Link436 [link] [comments]

23. The lack of effort in GIRLSET’s debut is downright maddening

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No MV. Two minute song that was spoiled for a month. What were they thinking? You have a grand redebut but you are not spending any money.. Why are you so cheap JYP. If you are going to release an Itzy reject then release a reject with dressed in a high budget package. Like Lesserafim’s Unforgiven! And you can tell losing two vocalists did a number on them as Kendall’s voice just doesn’t gel in this song at all. Maybe Camilla’s too but she fits the concept at least. While Katseye’s Debut was also short and had a low budget MV, at least it HAD an MV, wasn’t spoiled to death for a month, and was unique sounding compared to what kpop had at the time. And no one was saying members didn’t fit the concept. They all did and were able to sell it. Hope Girlset release a Touch level song a month from now and recover like Katseye did because it is not looking good. submitted by /u/mauvebliss [link] [comments]

24. JYP is still running ads for it.

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First off, don’t come at me coz I just came across this while scrolling. So wanted to share it and also share my thoughts about it coz it’s been more than a month now. And twice had one more comeback for Japan in the midst of it. submitted by /u/Daddy1007a [link] [comments]

25. Let’s make a 3rd - 4th gen gg (day 4)

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winners from last time: Soyeon (idle) Moonbyul (mamamoo) Exy (WJSN) Today’s is the leader of the group. Happy voting 😊 submitted by /u/No-Recording-3274 [link] [comments]

26. KPop Demon Hunters OST's "Golden" by HUNTR/X, EJAE, AUDREY NUNA & REI AMI remains at #1, while "TAKEDOWN" by TWICE JEONGYEON, JIHYO & CHAEYOUNG climbs to #27 on the UK Official Singles Chart

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27. Happy 3rd Unit Debut Anniversary to MAMAMOO+ (Solar and Moonbyul)!

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28. HYBE x Geffen’s thirst for money has been harming trainees for years and it’s not talked about enough

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we all, as kpop stans, are constantly exposed to situations of overworking, starving and exploitation to group members and trainees. lately, i have decided to watch the popstar academy documentary on netflix, and one of my initial thoughts was the reocurring reference of the ‘lack of time’ and ‘rush’ the two labels were facing. now, the intensive training & development program was meant to last one year, which included some girls who had no previous experience in certain artistic areas such as dancing. when you are a huge record label like hybe you simply cannot deny how long you keep some trainees improving for prior to their debut. for example, txt’s yeonjun trained for 4-5 years before debuting in march 2015. so there seems to be no explanation for overpressuring innocent girls just so less than one third of them can be selected to be in a girl group, which btw will have schedules after schedules, tours, promotions, fan events, etc etc. in the beginning of the series, missy and other staff kept saying “oh we don’t have time” “we hope we can carry out the debut as expected” was it that difficult to not cram years worth of severe schedules into one year, all before a secret survival show that the contestants didn’t know of? and no deadlines, no expectations so the girls would have something concrete to work for? “how about we make them live together like a whole family, teach them how to complete each other, make them perform together as a group and then make them compete against each other for a dream they all have?” furthermore the consequences were also physical: lexie had injury which had to be treated with surgery, was on a weelchair for two days and came back after WEEKS of practice wasted, scared of missing out on the competition; emily with her foot fracture that unabled her to dance for 6 weeks (most of the time she was rank #1 in dancing). and the fact this is all normalized between the whole staff team is what upsets me the most. not one single bit of acknowledgement or accountability, and i’d risk pointing out a bit of manipulation. “you all have to be grateful because missy loves you more than you can imagine” well she for sure loves her paycheck a little more. this month, hxg announced an upcoming group that contains former dream academy contestants, which guarantees the preservation of their talents. however, they also mentioned that “the japanese contestants will participate in an intensive training program from october through december”. i sincerely hope these girls have previous experience because if hxg converts an already intensive 1-year t&d program (used in dream academy) into a 3-month one it would be the end of them. but as the excitement is bigger than the concerns, everyone seems to be supporting this collaboration and the survival show/training program. i am as well excited for the group but can’t help but point out how many things are and have been wrong here for a very long time. what do you all think? submitted by /u/F4LLEN_ANG3LL [link] [comments]

29. They hated them because they spoke the truth

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30. 'KARMA' by Stray Kids debuts at #22 on the UK Official Albums Chart

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31. I can't find a good company to sign under

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OuO; Idk why I'm here. But if I'm supposed to rant then okay- IT'S SO HARD TO FIND THE COMPANY I WANT TO AUDITION FOR! THEY ALL SEEM SO SUCCESSFUL BUT THEN I END UP READING SOMETHING ABOUT HOW THEY ABUSE THEIR TRAINEES LIKE VCHA. *who btw is debuting as Girlset and is a quartet* As a westerner who's always been taught if someone forces you to work longer than you want, you can just sue them or leave. But you can't do that if you sign up for it. So the only right option is to find THE PERFECT company. But that doesn't exist! submitted by /u/Big-Map9516 [link] [comments]

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